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Is Saint Sommers done for ?


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Nah the wss will beat any swordsman including shanks no
It’s so funny mfers cling to titles they don’t even know the origins of.

Who did Mihawk beat to obtain the title? Was Shanks interested in competing for the title? Was Mihawk recognised before or after he stopped engaging Shanks?

You have no grasp on any of this but you and so many like you are all too happy to tout that title like you do. It’s weird, which is fine, but it’s not evidence of anything in relation to Shanks VS Mihawk.
 
Gaban has nothing to do with Sanji
do you think Mihawk is above Roger
Actually I do. Its not about the black blade though. Its the irrefutable title given to Mihawk.
And thats coming from someone who does not particularly like Mihawk.
do titles are absolute in OP
Not all. I think WBs "title" (it was not really a title) was invalidated by his performance during MF. Being the worlds strongest was his reputation. And at one point it may have been true, but old age got the better of him.
Its ridiculous that people took this at face value if you think about it. He got called the worlds strongest while sitting on literal life support ind the very same panel.
Kaido is the same deal. Its a rumor or reputation. He also never claimed it to be true, even though it might have been.
Mihawk on the other hand said that he is waiting at the top. He is an active pirate during his prime. His reputation should reflect his actual power. There are no signs of decline for him.
Does not matter to me. I dislike remote wank.
Shanks has way more weight to throw around. And at that level the strength difference between him and Mihawk are minimal at best anyways.
Mihawk > Shanks seems to hurt Luffystans and Shankstans feelings so they defend Shanks > Mihawk even with nonsensical arguments.
Becoming stronger than Shanks also means becoming more influential. Mihawk > Shanks does not actually invalidate Luffys goal.
Shanks is canonically below Mihawk until proven otherwise and its not a matter preference as I dislike both equally.
 
It’s so funny mfers cling to titles they don’t even know the origins of.

Who did Mihawk beat to obtain the title? Was Shanks interested in competing for the title? Was Mihawk recognised before or after he stopped engaging Shanks?

You have no grasp on any of this but you and so many like you are all too happy to tout that title like you do. It’s weird, which is fine, but it’s not evidence of anything in relation to Shanks VS Mihawk.
Do we need to know the origins though? If the narrator confirms it, there's no reason to think it's fake. We even know if Oda will point out if a title is a rumor Magikarp
 
This immortality shit should’ve been exclusive to Gorosei.

For now it does appear they’re the only ageless ones, but I would’ve preferred the Knights to not have either, with immortality and not ageing being perks of the job for the Gorosei.
 
The real question to ask is.

"Is Sommers just the Page One of the Holy Knights?" or is he the average?

The former gives you some leverage, the latter kinda kills any hype for the rest of the crew outside of Shamrock going forward.
 
This is Mihawk portrayal :

- rival of Shanks
*Former rival

- Zoro endgame or point just before the endgame / extremely important character for Zoro overall
You included my counterpoint yourself


- black blade holder
I still don’t view the prestige here, Roger didn’t care for a black blade and Shusui wasn’t even a supreme grade despite being black. I really don’t think this as big of a portrayal buff as people like to pretend.


MF was a shit show with top tiers underperforming for different reasons. Mihawk had no reason to go all out and Oda wanted to keep his moveset and power for endgame. So be it.
This is true but you can still gauge how Oda was thinking about these characters at MF. He had Mihawk state inferiority to WB and gave him a weaker opponent than the admirals. That gives you insight into how Oda was thinking about the hierarchy of top tiers even if the exact portrayals of power get eclipsed by their later feats.
 
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