Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1150 Spoilers Discussion
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First of all, Mythical Zoans aren't really Mythical in the sense of being just Imaginative, They are clearly based on Existing Beings,
Nika is Proof of that, but We also have Ryugu Kingdom based on Azure Dragon or Amazon Lily based on possibly Yamata No Orochi ... etc
So if that's really the case, then Imu having Devil DF, would still not answer our question of who is OPVerse's Devil,
Also i've seen Luffy become Nika, i've seen Usopp become King of Snipers, i've seen Sanji become Stealth Black ... etc
And i've seen Robin turn into a Devil (Same as the one Drawn on Mural), so The Devil exists even without DFs,
Secondly, as you can see in these old comments of mine, i always knew that Imu was the Devil long before Wano even ended, let alone that Levely Scene & Egghead Arc & Current Events, so this isn't something new to me, i'm not saying we can't be wrong, but as they say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", so since my old theory regarding Imu's Duality turned out to be true, then i'm gonna stick to my opinion that Imu or Mu is indeed the Devil,
Now for the Identity of this Devil, i have Two Possibilities:
1. There is Someone who was said to be Extremely Evil + Cursed to Live Forever + Sacrificed his entire Crew + Defied God + Looked for Poseidon + His Jolly Roger & Silhouette indicate He was a Knight ... etc & it's Vander Decken, First Captain of Flying Dutchmen, so if The Devil was a Normal Person, then i highly suspect this guy & it was obviously the doing of Sea God,
2. If The Devil wasn't a Normal Person & is an actual Evil that is Part of OP Verse, then i can only believe that it's the Destructive Form of Klabauterman, if you go look them up online, you will read that They actually have Two Sides, a Good Klabautermann appears for those who take care of Ship, but if things go south, it can also be another Sea Devil who wants punishment of all,
Btw, if Imu's Devil Side is Introduced this Chapter, then it 100% Confirms that God of OP Verse or at least Final Villain will be Introduced in Chapter 1200 (Mirroring Mihawk & Dragon's Introductions)
Nika is Proof of that, but We also have Ryugu Kingdom based on Azure Dragon or Amazon Lily based on possibly Yamata No Orochi ... etc
So if that's really the case, then Imu having Devil DF, would still not answer our question of who is OPVerse's Devil,
Also i've seen Luffy become Nika, i've seen Usopp become King of Snipers, i've seen Sanji become Stealth Black ... etc
And i've seen Robin turn into a Devil (Same as the one Drawn on Mural), so The Devil exists even without DFs,
I think Oda took Inspirations from two things
1. He wanted to create Fusion Characters similar to Dragon Ball Z (Oda worships Dragon Ball)
2. He inspired it from German Literature "Faust"
The idea is very simple, just like Oda wanted to create Gods & people who get Inspired by them, he also wanted to create Devils & what do people do with Devils? They make Deals with them
The saying "Make a Deal with the Devil" originates from Legend of Faust
And without getting into more details, i believe Imu was designed based on this:
In other words, Imu is a Dual Person, a Woman & a Devilish Man in One Body
And there is a Solid Argument for it:
Imu in Kanji is イム
Eve is イブ & Adam is アダム
So basically イブ + アダム = イム
Imu is named after Eve + Adam (Imagine like they are named Evdam)
And when written in Katakana, Imu's Name means "Buddha" which also translated to "Enlighted or Awakened One"
Which again is a reference to Clairvoyance or Ascended Humans
Personally, i believe Imu we saw looking at Giant Straw Hat wasn't in Real World, he was in Other World where Devils exist
(The Man-Controlled Afterlife, that's why it's Cold just like Brook described the Afterlife he went to & came back from thanks to his DF)
1. He wanted to create Fusion Characters similar to Dragon Ball Z (Oda worships Dragon Ball)
2. He inspired it from German Literature "Faust"
The idea is very simple, just like Oda wanted to create Gods & people who get Inspired by them, he also wanted to create Devils & what do people do with Devils? They make Deals with them
The saying "Make a Deal with the Devil" originates from Legend of Faust
And without getting into more details, i believe Imu was designed based on this:
In other words, Imu is a Dual Person, a Woman & a Devilish Man in One Body
And there is a Solid Argument for it:
Imu in Kanji is イム
Eve is イブ & Adam is アダム
So basically イブ + アダム = イム
Imu is named after Eve + Adam (Imagine like they are named Evdam)
And when written in Katakana, Imu's Name means "Buddha" which also translated to "Enlighted or Awakened One"
Which again is a reference to Clairvoyance or Ascended Humans
Personally, i believe Imu we saw looking at Giant Straw Hat wasn't in Real World, he was in Other World where Devils exist
(The Man-Controlled Afterlife, that's why it's Cold just like Brook described the Afterlife he went to & came back from thanks to his DF)
In another Theory of mine, i also said that Zoro's Main Fights have a specific fixed pattern,
I can find it if you want, it was after King Fight, i said that Oda heavily associates Zoro with Shark, Tiger, Dragon & Devil, and finally his End Goal is to make his Name reach Heaven (God), which are clearly based on Sea, Land, Sky, Hell & Heaven.
Then i noticed how his Post-TS Main Fights mirror Pre-TS Ones (Hatchan, Daz, Ohm, Kaku & Ryuma), now check this out:
1. Sea-Based War (Fish-Men Island) ---> Zoro Fights another Fish-Men Island Swordsman (Hyouzou) ---> Zoro Clash with Shark (Hody)
2. Land-Based War (Dressrosa) ---> Zoro Fights another Warlord Henchman (Pica) ---> Zoro Clash with Tiger (Fujitora)
3. Sky-Based War (Onigashima) ---> Zoro Fights another Sky Islander Swordsman (Lunarian King) ---> Zoro Clash with Dragon (Kaidou)
So after seeing i was fully convinced that remaining Two Battles are:
4. Hell-Based War (Mary Geoise) ---> Zoro Fights another Beastly Swordsman from Elite Squad (Some Holy Knight) ---> Zoro Clash with Devil
5. Heaven-Based War (Wherever) ---> Zoro Fights another Black Blade Sword God (Obviously Mihawk) ---> Zoro Clash with OP God
This is imo one of Patterns that clearly confirm to me that Arc of Holy Knights have The Devil as it's Main Villain, clearly Imu.
I can find it if you want, it was after King Fight, i said that Oda heavily associates Zoro with Shark, Tiger, Dragon & Devil, and finally his End Goal is to make his Name reach Heaven (God), which are clearly based on Sea, Land, Sky, Hell & Heaven.
Then i noticed how his Post-TS Main Fights mirror Pre-TS Ones (Hatchan, Daz, Ohm, Kaku & Ryuma), now check this out:
1. Sea-Based War (Fish-Men Island) ---> Zoro Fights another Fish-Men Island Swordsman (Hyouzou) ---> Zoro Clash with Shark (Hody)
2. Land-Based War (Dressrosa) ---> Zoro Fights another Warlord Henchman (Pica) ---> Zoro Clash with Tiger (Fujitora)
3. Sky-Based War (Onigashima) ---> Zoro Fights another Sky Islander Swordsman (Lunarian King) ---> Zoro Clash with Dragon (Kaidou)
So after seeing i was fully convinced that remaining Two Battles are:
4. Hell-Based War (Mary Geoise) ---> Zoro Fights another Beastly Swordsman from Elite Squad (Some Holy Knight) ---> Zoro Clash with Devil
5. Heaven-Based War (Wherever) ---> Zoro Fights another Black Blade Sword God (Obviously Mihawk) ---> Zoro Clash with OP God
This is imo one of Patterns that clearly confirm to me that Arc of Holy Knights have The Devil as it's Main Villain, clearly Imu.
Now for the Identity of this Devil, i have Two Possibilities:
1. There is Someone who was said to be Extremely Evil + Cursed to Live Forever + Sacrificed his entire Crew + Defied God + Looked for Poseidon + His Jolly Roger & Silhouette indicate He was a Knight ... etc & it's Vander Decken, First Captain of Flying Dutchmen, so if The Devil was a Normal Person, then i highly suspect this guy & it was obviously the doing of Sea God,
2. If The Devil wasn't a Normal Person & is an actual Evil that is Part of OP Verse, then i can only believe that it's the Destructive Form of Klabauterman, if you go look them up online, you will read that They actually have Two Sides, a Good Klabautermann appears for those who take care of Ship, but if things go south, it can also be another Sea Devil who wants punishment of all,
Btw, if Imu's Devil Side is Introduced this Chapter, then it 100% Confirms that God of OP Verse or at least Final Villain will be Introduced in Chapter 1200 (Mirroring Mihawk & Dragon's Introductions)
Oda is already doing his Kaguya-character better by introducing Imu before the final saga and making him do his move before the final war even started out.
Kaguya was introduced 50 chapters before the ending and made her true introduction near the end of the manga. That was the issue I was having with Kaguya.
Nah, Kisame, Zetsu and Obito were still living. Ending it with Pain would cut out so many things.
Kaguya was introduced 50 chapters before the ending and made her true introduction near the end of the manga. That was the issue I was having with Kaguya.
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Nah, Kisame, Zetsu and Obito were still living. Ending it with Pain would cut out so many things.
The good thing about Danzo is that he was extremely loyal to Konohagakure...
The bad thing is, he was so loyal to Konohagakure that he literally fucked up everything else.
Dude fucked up with so many ninjas in 3rd world war, was responsible for Uchiha massacre and when he was finally the next hokage, he fucked it up in the 5 kage summit room as well when he was putting Mifune on a genjutsu in front of the other kages. Just why? He had everything, so why was he endangering his position by pissing off the other kages in front of him?
Danzo was highly scheming but I cannot grasp how he made consecutive bad decisions over and over again.
His worst decision wasn't even reckless in kage summit arc, it was plain up stupid. Let's say Danzo was being a typical ruthless villain when it comes to his previous decisions but the one in kage summit arc is still so laughable, it's just so dumb.
The bad thing is, he was so loyal to Konohagakure that he literally fucked up everything else.
Dude fucked up with so many ninjas in 3rd world war, was responsible for Uchiha massacre and when he was finally the next hokage, he fucked it up in the 5 kage summit room as well when he was putting Mifune on a genjutsu in front of the other kages. Just why? He had everything, so why was he endangering his position by pissing off the other kages in front of him?
Danzo was highly scheming but I cannot grasp how he made consecutive bad decisions over and over again.
His worst decision wasn't even reckless in kage summit arc, it was plain up stupid. Let's say Danzo was being a typical ruthless villain when it comes to his previous decisions but the one in kage summit arc is still so laughable, it's just so dumb.
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