Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1151 Spoilers Discussion

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Since Rayleigh is the confirmed N2 🥈 and Gaban is the confirmed N3 🥉 yet they are "wings"

This literally confirms that THE WINGS AREN'T MEANT TO BE EQUAL, just a metaphor like "arms" to indicate the most trusted crewmembers
Right-hand man > Left-hand man
 
You’re the one doing mental gymnastics buddy don’t move the goal post. Someone literally told you Gaban was weaker than Rayleigh.
What goal post am i moving? They are 50/50 equals
Someone thinks ray is stronger and someone thinks gaban is stronger
Exactly like before, nothing changed
 
The people who pushing Gaban > honorary member Oden are the same people who still denying Shiryu > Aokiji although it is literally confirmed in the colorspread.


Oden is more honorary member of Roger Pirates than Aokiji to Blackbeard Pirates.
I smell double standard
I get Rayleigh but why are Sword fans so hellbent into defending Lolden like that? :whitepress:

The difference is that Kuzan's true goals are still hidden and nobody knows whether he's a spy or not, meanwhile Lolden willingly left the WBP to join the Roger pirates without ulterior motives lol.
 
Would fit Jarul though. The regular civilians aren’t exactly gonna get targeted since Imu wants to rule over Elbaph and it would also fit if Jarul knew the truth about Harald all along and used their calls to keep him company knowing that he (very likely) saved Elbaph by killing Harald and this is his way of making up for using him as scapegoat. You can’t just tell the people the truth in such a case else the entire country would have been in utter chaos. So I think Loki willingly took the blame as he should do as the heir to the throne and Prince of the country.
At this point everything points to Harald being turned by Domi Reversi. His deeds were good and antithetical to the WG. The WG is literally burning the schools he helped to build lol.

Loki saying “you really think I wanted to kill him?” Makes sense if his dad was turned into a monster and used to against him
 
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fair enough!!!
If he was a villain he would have been perfect since he kept doing villainous stuff but we were supposed to see him as a ''good guy'' lmao
"let me just throw the entire country down the drain and trust a certified liar, lol"
"ah shit, I will now head on an adventure outside of this country and leave my family to die"
"gee golly, this is a stupid ship. I will abandon those who took me in and join this weirdo over there, hoooray"
"ah, good old Wano. no time to stick around and fix the shit I did. I am on may way to a random island"
"now I am finally ready to fix this mess, but it turns out I am retarded and get fooled by a parlor trick ability"

its utterly impossible to view Oden as the good guy
 
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