Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1151 Spoilers Discussion

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Oda went so far as to write in the classic Zoro-Sanji gag where Sanji feels threatened by Zoro’s No. 2 status built into Ray-Gaban parallel

To me it feels like Oda is plugging in the same implications here
I wonder if the same kanji was used for "alongside" here as for "equal" Ray/Gaban in 1139 and 1149 chapters.

But yeah it's just confirming Ray/Zoro>=Gaban/Sanji again.
 
Bro's still salty Kizaru lost to G5
Careful. Kizaru used his pika pika no mi (which he can effortlessly use at any time without the slightest sign of exhaustion and entirely independent of his physical state as it is a premium deluxe logia fruit) to deliver goofy some food.

Bros somehow consider this as Kizaru having won this one.

It's basically a logia feat that Enel used while he was literally dead btw
 
Anyone who genuinely thought Ray = Gaban and therefore Zoro = Sanji is foolish anyways, and will probably still think it after this chapter.

Daily reminder that any strength dynamic between the Roger Pirates has absolutely nothing to do with current SH dynamics/strength, and also nothing to do with EoS dynamics to boot as the SHs will go beyond "just" a PK crew. The only point at which these dynamics could possibly relate to the SHs is on Raftel, when they become a PK crew.

Even then, it's dubious as Rayleigh is Zoro's weakest benchmark with both Mihawk (likely) and Roger (duh) being stronger than him, who also exist as Zoro's benchmarks (zero evidence Roger wasn't a swordsman, we just don't know when Zoro will surpass him). Zoro could be Prime Rayleigh level without yet being WSS at Raftel, who knows.

Point is, unless you didn't think Roger > Rayleigh > Gaban or Luffy > Zoro > Sanji, none of this should come as a surprise to anyone. The only thing that can be argued are the gaps, and if I were a Luffy fan I'd be saying Luffy >> Zoro > Sanji rn. But as usual, the M3 dynamic is ever-changing and the only way we'll know where they end up is by comparing their all-out feats come EoS. For example, right now Luffy low-diffs Sanji and there is no debating around that.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
World's Strongest Man (25 years old btw) - I am not a supporter of abuse of the elderly but... Mihawk is getting this one
Kaido's is "Strongest creature" - Creature. Like a dog among dogs. Like a lion among lions.

Calling Mihawk World's Strongest Swordsman is something entirely different. The title covers almost the entirety of pirates. An apex fighter. Roger was a swordsman. Rayleigh was a swordsman. Gaban is kind of a swordsman. Shiki is a swordsman. Shanks is a swordsman. Swordsmanship is the peak of strength in the op verse. And Gigahawk sits at the top of that pyramid for years.
 
Anyone who genuinely thought Ray = Gaban and therefore Zoro = Sanji is foolish anyways, and will probably still think it after this chapter.

Daily reminder that any strength dynamic between the Roger Pirates has absolutely nothing to do with current SH dynamics/strength, and also nothing to do with EoS dynamics to boot as the SHs will go beyond "just" a PK crew. The only point at which these dynamics could possibly relate to the SHs is on Raftel, when they become a PK crew.

Even then, it's dubious as Rayleigh is Zoro's weakest benchmark with both Mihawk (likely) and Roger (duh) being stronger than him, who also exist as Zoro's benchmarks (zero evidence Roger wasn't a swordsman, we just don't know when Zoro will surpass him). Zoro could be Prime Rayleigh level without yet being WSS at Raftel, who knows.

Point is, unless you didn't think Roger > Rayleigh > Gaban or Luffy > Zoro > Sanji, none of this should come as a surprise to anyone. The only thing that can be argued are the gaps, and if I were a Luffy fan I'd be saying Luffy >> Zoro > Sanji rn. But as usual, the M3 dynamic is ever-changing and the only way we'll know where they end up is by comparing their all-out feats come EoS. For example, right now Luffy low-diffs Sanji and there is no debating around that.
Sanji neg diffs Luffy if he stops making food for him
 
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