Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1152 Spoilers Discussion

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ShishioIsBack

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Chrono said:
Admiraltards are still pissed due to the sword allaince disbandament. Now they wanna group up with Lanjitards since they think he will fight Greencuck
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Both groups are insecure af.
Sanji-sissies are forever in inferiority complex of Zoro being portrayed 10 times stronger than Sanji at his absolute worse
Conversely Kaido and Shanks making entire band of Marine Pokemon Leaders look like Circus clowns

Its literally losers aligning with losers
 
MarineHQ

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ShishioIsBack said:
Literally that has never happened
Mr1 no diffs Mr2 and Mr0 Mr1 and Mr2 all knew that
Ohm neg diffs Satori who Sanji defeated in 1v1
Ryuma Negs Absalom
Kaku mid diffs Jabura
Pica Mid diffs Vergo
Vergo Mid diffed Sanji
King low diffs Queen

What group of equals have they fought lmao
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Did Chatgpt tell you that ? 🤣
 
Halyup

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grey matter said:
To be fair, BB and his goons were caught off guard by Magellan. They were just smack talking, and Magellan just attacked them out of the bat. These characters are, in canon, goofy and careless fighters that get caught off guard unless truly serious/locked-in.
Magellan's canonical power level is ~ DF-less Shiryuu.

With Ivankov, there was no such ambiguity. Magellan just straight up defeated on guard Ivankov in combat easily.

I can understand the argument that Dragon's RHM and LHM are to be monsters like those of Roger or Rocks.
But they have to prove it first, before we as readers can consider accepting it.

Because, it would be one thing if they were simply unknown factors without feats and portrayal, we could then speculate them to be top tiers even.
But here, we have enough data.

Kuma and Doflamingo were introduced together, with Doflamingo having slightly higher bounty. Portrayal there IMO was, they are close in power, but Doffy a bit stronger. At no point in the story did Kuma give even remotely comparable energy/aura as Rayleigh (Roger RHM) or Whitebeard (Rocks RHM).

Ivankov's aura again doesn't even come close to Gaban. He wasn't even considered dangerous enough for level 6, they put him in level 5.....I am willing to overlook it. Then there is him getting taken out by Magellan, and in Marineford he didn't get anyone gassing him up either.
There is more of an argument for Lucky Roo (potentially mid gen Gaban/Sanji) being super strong, than Ivankov lol.

The most we reasonably can scale Kuma and Ivankov to, is varying commander level in power. I can buy Kuma being upper commander level, that's really about it.

Sabo is different for sure though. He will get to top tier, and is Luffy's "brother".
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Kuma >>>>>>>Doffy
 
Halyup

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ShishioIsBack said:
Literally that has never happened
Mr1 no diffs Mr2 and Mr0 Mr1 and Mr2 all knew that
Ohm neg diffs Satori who Sanji defeated in 1v1
Ryuma Negs Absalom
Kaku mid diffs Jabura
Pica Mid diffs Vergo
Vergo Mid diffed Sanji
King low diffs Queen

What group of equals have they fought lmao
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Sanji defeated satori in 2v1
 
Gol D. Roger

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MarineHQ said:
That doesn't work. The way Oda is using the Admirals it's striking that apart from Kuzan they will go down at the same time and place. We don't have time to take them one after another. Besides that isn't how Oda handles Zoro/Sanji fights since pre ts. They always come together to beat an established group of equals.

The Admirals are just the last stage of that before we enter demon piece.
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It's one pattern vs another. It's true they fight characters with similar ranks within an organization, but it's equally true Luffy's opponent from the same arc should be tiers above theirs. So the theme doesn't really fit. Unless Imu or someone on that level is the main villain, Sanji and Zoro won't fight admirals in the same arc.
 
ShishioIsBack

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Gol D. Roger said:
It's one pattern vs another. It's true they fight characters with similar ranks within an organization, but it's equally true Luffy's opponent from the same arc should be tiers above theirs. So the theme doesn't really fit. Unless Imu or someone on that level is the main villain, Sanji and Zoro won't fight admirals in the same arc.
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This pattern is also not as common as we think

Only 2 arcs have followed this pattern
I don't even buy Alabasta where gap between Mr0 and Mr1 was as big as Mr1 and Mr2 and Luffy would likely lose to Mr1 anyways.
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Don DaSlayer said:
Oda still bitching sanji you love to see it 😭
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@Chrono Sanji literally begging his parallel's attention is new low lmao
 
ShishioIsBack

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