Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1152 Spoilers Discussion

[Paragorn]

 

[kekaro]

The L-man of thousand accounts went silent after another l essay exposed

“W”ee

I still think saint shanks is going to be a goody two shoes, but the celestial affiliation is undeniable.

Shanks is hinted more emotional this chapter than usual, i think thats atleast a good development

 

[Roo]

Wait… you think that Zoro is always using AdvCoC?

Yes, zoro doesn’t know he’s using CoC, and his CoC is constantly leaking since he awakened it

meaning whenever he uses enma he just uses CoC thinking it’s CoA. Remember in order to control enma he has to let all his haki out

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

There is no such thing as official stance of the temple...
Zoro associated haki with cutting steel.
That was the only time when he applied haki.
Other things were not hard to cut.


Nope, Ryo has always referred to CoA only.


It literally is like that - Oda's whim who is the handful of strongest and who not...


Zoro satisfied Enma with COA alone too.
What you are ignoring is - the sword can see into you and test you.
The test of Oden and Zoro are not the same because the things that are inside them, that Enma sees, are not the same.
One if a far bigger monster than the other and his test is far harder. You should guess who.

>Zoro lacking in CoA... Brah, the guy lacking in CoA matched Oden's feat without need CoC, lol...
Seems like you still didn't wrap your head around that Zoro is THE special individual when it comes to Power...

ryuo was just "haki". it was never specifically associated with any color. for all we know observation is ryuo as well in wano

 

[CbShadow]

Ryou just means flow...

coa and coc can both be used as ryou...

Zoro didn't have enough coa to satisfy emma. So it started pulling out his untapped coc reserve. That's how he unlocked acoc. By giving emma full access to suck out whatever it wanted to satisfy itself.

Here's zoro himself saying lolden was able to wield emma easily. But he himself can't wield it like that because he doesn't have enough haki. But he lets emma take his haki anyway. And what comes out after he gives emma unrestricted access is... you guessed it, acoc.

You are wrong.

Ryu is Wano term for CoA haki. Hyou explained that when he was teaching Luffy how to use CoA haki the way Rayleigh showed him.

Ryuo means flowing cherry blossom.

Wano doesn't have a term for CoC haki. Some people call it Oden's special trick.

Again, Oden's father explained how enma works. It only forces the user to release more ryuo or CoA haki then they wishes.

Mastering enma has nothing to do with CoC. It's all about proving to enma you are capable and willing to use overwhelming haki even if it puts your life at risk.

This is one of the most misunderstood scenes in the entire manga.

Some still believe the scene was telling us Oden always use that amount (overwhelming) of haki. That is wrong. The scene explains Oden can use that amount of haki with enma easily. Not he always used that amount of haki. That can be easily determined by the lack of flames we see from Oden when using enma. Flames represent overwhelming haki. For Zoro to master enma he had to prove he could also use that amount of haki. That explains why Zoro doesn't have to use that amount of haki all the time.

With that explain let's go back and look at the scene again.

As we can see from the scene, up until then Zoro wasn't releasing overwhelming CoA haki. It was all about balance to him. He was releasing a lot of haki but not too much. Once he realized he wasn't releasing enough haki, he released all of his haki. He didn't just release and flow that amount of haki into enma, he did that with all his swords since he likes to keep the power between all three swords equal. While he did that he subconsciously released and flowed ACoC haki into all of his swords.

Enma doesn't effect Zoro other swords. If it did we would have seen his other swords affected by him losing control of enma.

Here Zoro is using ACoC haki with just the demon splitter.

 

[Rivaille]

Yes, zoro doesn’t know he’s using CoC, and his CoC is constantly leaking since he awakened it

meaning whenever he uses enma he just uses CoC thinking it’s CoA. Remember in order to control enma he has to let all his haki out

So you are telling me that Zoro was able to use AdvCoC non stop for 6 months ?
The haki pool is insane

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

@Kurozumi Wiwi

This guy has negative truth takes, admirals will have 100% confirmed acoc imo, gg
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...advanced-conqueror-or-not.65009/#post-5937791

Oda litterarly shat on this whole essay incredible

I legit stand by everything I said.
Low top tier is best Gaban is touching right now.

None of the admirals have AdCoC or even CoC. Except Sengoku. Manga legit says that you fuckin clown.

But I don't expect a mf headcanon Delusion creator to understand

 

[Sentinel]

Gucci finger nails matching adCoC you hate to see it

@Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier Do you still see Zoro winning against any admiral? Even his captain couldn't beat one, yet you believe Zoro's able to who cannot even properly control his ACoC?

 

[Wizak08]

Because the green flames came out when he used CoC?

you’re overthinking things if you think otherwise. You really believe Oda would create a separated visual effect for CoA when he literally reuses the same CoA effect for CoC?

This whole “flow” nonsense is just more autistic digging into a power system the creator wants to keep simple. You’re just the other side of the rootbeer coin

The flames were already there the moment Zoro picked up Enma and it was explained it was armament haki, why would it all of sudden become something else?

 

[MarineHQ]

Crazy Gucci upscale ngl

 

[warsame zaylai]

Zoro used blue flames vs Ryuuma which was never explained too. Kinemon generated flames too.

I wish Oda would actually explain this finally sigh. Same for Sanji flames and Zoros Asura.

Does the colour of the flames really matter ?
Against ryuma = it was blue
against kaido = it was purple
But the sfx for dragon blaze is flame which is fire attack

flames ability is common in the one piece world
i dont even think oda has the answer for this let alone ashura
he just thinks its cool

 

[Roo]

So you are telling me that Zoro was able to use AdvCoC non stop for 6 months ?
The haki pool is insane

For 6 months? Wano was literally like a week ago in story

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Tf is giving control.
He only let Enma the it wants. There's no Enma controlling Zoro clown.

Semantics...

Giving control just means letting emma do what it wants. Which is suck a lot of haki.

You know exactly what i meant by that. But is trying to use semantic differences to shift the argument because you currently have no counters.

Pathetic

Bruh Bro had enma in the same arc and unlocked both in the same fuckin panel.

...

He got emma in the same arc and was restricting it. Because unrestricted emma means he will die. He was controlling the rate emma as getting haki.

That is why he didn;t unlock it sooner.

But, when he finally let loose and did let emma do what it wanted, he got acoc.

Against kaido he did asura as his last resort attack with everything he had. And against king he once again gave emma complete access to his haki.

Enma *

Enma is allowing Zoro to use AdCoC.
AdCoC which went missing for 20 ywars from Oden.

Cause emma was satisfied by lolden's coa alone...
so no need for emma to go out of control and suck out whatever

read what zoro says, slowly, and multiple times. Maybe use a reading glass or something idk.

 

[kekaro]

Why are you so scared if sanji getting acoc? Just sit down and enjoy the ride. You can make 1000s thread oda would make you look like a buffoon in the end 🤣🤣🤣

Scared? Lmao.
I'm destroying people headcanons here.

Bro is literal textbook example of projection, you just know if he uses a word he got owned by it and seething about it in the past

 

[Paragorn]

@Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier Do you still see Zoro winning against any admiral? Even his captain couldn't beat one, yet you believe Zoro's able to who cannot even properly control his ACoC?

According to him Shiryu is above Kuzan lol.

 

[Roo]

The flames were already there the moment Zoro picked up Enma and it was explained it was armament haki, why would it all of sudden become something else?

Same reason why oda reused this for adCoC

it looks good

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Why would Oda draw lightning on Enma when the whole point of bird dance is Zoro using a single sword?

ask your fellow zorotards that

Where in that panel does Kaido speak about conqueror coating like he did for Luffy?

Kaido asks zoro "so you use coc too" after zoro does asura

What do you think that means? Why would kaido randomly ask zoro that when he did not do a coc blast and knock anyone out?

Almost like the attack that zoro just used, the one that cut and scarred kaido, had acoc and kaido recognized it...

 

[kekaro]

@Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier Do you still see Zoro winning against any admiral? Even his captain couldn't beat one, yet you believe Zoro's able to who cannot even properly control his ACoC?

You need to stop enable that guy before he meltsdown again

 

[thisnewtechnique]

The L-man of thousand accounts went silent after another l essay exposed

What are his alts? Hes being banned and coming back?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Yes, zoro doesn’t know he’s using CoC, and his CoC is constantly leaking since he awakened it

meaning whenever he uses enma he just uses CoC thinking it’s CoA. Remember in order to control enma he has to let all his haki out

You’re taking the statement too literally

Oda shows exactly when Zoro is using CoC via the black lightning. Absolutely no reason to think he’s always using it.

Yes he has been leaking it… when he is fighting.