Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1152 Spoilers Discussion

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Yeah this is what I’m saying, Luffy didn’t even say “supreme haki?” for Gaban just “haki?”

Kuzan is probably a shoo in for COC at this point

I already said in the past that Oda not making it undeniable does not equate to Kuzan not having show it. The idea that everytime a character uses aCOC they must fill the fanbase checklist is just headcanon.
I think for DF users Oda prefer to first focus on their DF abilities, haki only being relevant for lenghty fight. Compare Blackbeard vs Shanks. Shanks shit out COC everytime he's doing something while Blackbeard has yet to show it(he's gifted COC by the fanbase because it'd make no sense for Luffy archnemesis to not have it.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

don't worry Oda will get bored with advcoc soon

 

[Ashish]

"will"?


You missed the "WORO" worstgenhq hint?
Seems very clear to me.

These speculations make worstgen

 

[L57]

"will"?


You missed the "WORO" worstgenhq hint?
Seems very clear to me.

And doggy wanted to make a bet with me

 

[Fujishiro]

Boruto? What is Boruto again?

Me and @TheAncientCenturion 's favorite manga.

 

[Yoho]

Kaido did say Haki conquerors all, idk why people are acting surprised like this is a new revelation

 

[kekaro]

Never doubt Wami
Gaban really was about to kill the sencho and his biggest fan in the castle @AverageNamiEnjoyer

 

[Shiroyru]

The reason I believe this application of CoC wont be stronger then the regular ACoC application is because CoC doesnt get stronger trough training, you only get it stronger the stronger you yourelf get through haki, physicals,etc.

So unless there is a hyperbolic time chamber for Luffy to train to strengthen his CoC then this wont be an AP boost and more a way to keep Immortals from regening.

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Sentinel @Zoinks52 ,etc

 

[Kurozumi mugiwara44]

I can't take seriously people who got the strongest swordsman above the other swordsmen, sorry Zorotards.

 

[DarkWitch]

@Fujishiro @Tyki_Mikk @Sentinel
Imo this whole new Adv CoC is kind of dumb, because there is no way I see the Revs being able to defeat the Holy Knights in battle.

Dragon, Sabo, and maybe Iva are the only ones I see having Adv CoC, the rest I personally don't think so.

This now makes me believe that maybe the fight between the Revs and Holy Knights is going to be more of a stall battle, until Imu is defeated and killed.

 

[Fn Lucci]

I defended Haki up to 1010 and believe me, it wasn't easy. But fuckin Oda has squandered this power system and this new gatekeeping in the narrative has outdone every other flaw.

On the plus side we should get definitive answers for Zoro and Sanji. It's really now or never unless Oda somehow makes it worse.

 

[Doggo]

kinda but it was Kaido who made Luffy go Looney Tunes mode

Filler content.
Just "hey, we are in the major league now."

Like Croco was the first Shichibukai.

But Croco is goated.
Rumor Man isn't.

 

[Fujishiro]

I mean fine by me if Oda chooses to retcon his own power system. Just gonna make him more of a fraud then he already is.

 

[thisnewtechnique]

https://x.com/Mugiwara_23/status/1934664777504313812

 

[moreha9685]

And wtf were Kaidou and Big Mom even doing? They shoulda sat down and had a convo with Ray or Gaban, bunch of clueless retards. Again going back to Oda's statement on starting after Wano, he basically called Kaidou and BM fillers lmfao.

All that great planning for the first half of the story, immediately trashed once it came to making BM and Kaido make sense within the wider context.
The Yonko were a mistake. Croc should've stayed as a proto one, fallen from grace, but coming back with a revenge.

 

[Shiroyru]

@Fujishiro @Tyki_Mikk @Sentinel
Imo this whole new Adv CoC is kind of dumb, because there is no way I see the Revs being able to defeat the Holy Knights in battle.

Dragon, Sabo, and maybe Iva are the only ones I see having Adv CoC, the rest I personally don't think so.

This now makes me believe that maybe the fight between the Revs and Holy Knights is going to be more of a stall battle, until Imu is defeated and killed.

Rev Commanders are jobbers. SHs will beat the HKs

 

[Ashish]

I mean fine by me if Oda chooses to retcon his own power system. Just gonna make him more of a fraud then he already is.

And why are we assuming coc coating was used?

 

[MarineHQ]

The reason I believe this application of CoC wont be stronger then the regular ACoC application is because CoC doesnt get stronger trough training, you only get it stronger the stronger you yourself get through haki training, physicals,etc.

So unless there is a hyperbolic time chamber for Luffy to train to strengthen his CoC then this wont be an AP boost and more a way to keep Immortals from regening.

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Sentinel @Zoinks52 ,etc

So do you think it works like this?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The reason I believe this application of CoC wont be stronger then the regular ACoC application is because CoC doesnt get stronger trough training, you only get it stronger the stronger you yourelf get through haki, physicals,etc.

So unless there is a hyperbolic time chamber for Luffy to train to strengthen his CoC then this wont be an AP boost and more a way to keep Immortals from regening.

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Sentinel @Zoinks52 ,etc

I don't think it'll be outright stronger in a powerlevel sense but it will be a better application like ACOA is to COA. Scabbards could hurt Kaido with their COA but it doesn't mean they were stronger than act 1 Luffy

 

[L57]

@Red Admiral mihawk has better haki than shanks