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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars

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Talent is something you make bloom.
And doggy wanted to make a bet with me :pepelovesfu::pepelovesfu:
The drops an info about Gaban having acoc and is probably explaining that it is necessary to beat the HKs.
the M3 is with them.
He sends a "WORO" hint.
GEEZ, I wonder what it could be?
I wonder if it's called out that Zoro indeed has CoC.
As if not only the most agenda driven fiends would still deny it just because of some merchandise birthday card or whatever.
:pepepopcorn:
 
Haki would have been dope if it had been used more to buff DFs instead of countering them.

An idea I had for example was if Akainu's magma being able to burn fire was a haki technique he practiced where he amped his magma with Conk or Armament.

Goatbull's fireproof forest is another example.

Obviously you need something to counter DFs otherwise stuff like Sugar's fruit would be invincible but haki in its current state is just a bit much.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
And wtf were Kaidou and Big Mom even doing? They shoulda sat down and had a convo with Ray or Gaban, bunch of clueless retards. Again going back to Oda's statement on starting after Wano, he basically called Kaidou and BM fillers lmfao.
Why would they talk to enemies? Also I think Kaido might actually have that application to deal lasting damage to immortals simply because the Gorosei were afraid of angering him. And he was in God Valley where there were HKs. Other than that, just because you have something the other doesnt doesnt make you weaker.

For example Hyogoro had better haki mastery then Luffy yet was weaker then him.
 
I already said in the past that Oda not making it undeniable does not equate to Kuzan not having show it. The idea that everytime a character uses aCOC they must fill the fanbase checklist is just headcanon.
I think for DF users Oda prefer to first focus on their DF abilities, haki only being relevant for lenghty fight. Compare Blackbeard vs Shanks. Shanks shit out COC everytime he's doing something while Blackbeard has yet to show it(he's gifted COC by the fanbase because it'd make no sense for Luffy archnemesis to not have it.
It’s simple, only Luffy and maybe zoro get haki focused fights because Oda understand if every fight turns into a haki fest then Luffy fights stop being unique

It’s why BM vs Kid and Law is just a DF battle despite every single character there being capable of using haki, with one having an advance application of haki. Why all but WsW and Ulti of the Tobi Roppo forgot to use haki
 
The drops an info about Gaban having acoc and is probably explaining that it is necessary to beat the HKs.
the M3 is with them.
He sends a "WORO" hint.
GEEZ, I wonder what it could be?
I wonder if it's called out that Zoro indeed has CoC.
As if not only the most agenda driven fiends would still deny it just because of some merchandise birthday card or whatever.
:pepepopcorn:
Zoro ko lanji with coc :shocked:
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
I don't think it'll be outright stronger in a powerlevel sense but it will be a better application like ACOA is to COA. Scabbards could hurt Kaido with their COA but it doesn't mean they were stronger than act 1 Luffy
Yes exactly, but imo the application will only be better against immortals. Against regular top tiers its not going to do more then regular ACoC.
 
The reason I believe this application of CoC wont be stronger then the regular ACoC application is because CoC doesnt get stronger trough training, you only get it stronger the stronger you yourself get through haki training, physicals,etc.

So unless there is a hyperbolic time chamber for Luffy to train to strengthen his CoC then this wont be an AP boost and more a way to keep Immortals from regening.

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Sentinel @Zoinks52 ,etc
Its gonna be some special application for sure cause gaban was also introduced with the same haki types as shanks and he is the ultimate Haki wizard

Could be mixing and why haki is called "color" in japanese, as in color mixing
 
The reason I believe this application of CoC wont be stronger then the regular ACoC application is because CoC doesnt get stronger trough training, you only get it stronger the stronger you yourself get through haki training, physicals,etc.

So unless there is a hyperbolic time chamber for Luffy to train to strengthen his CoC then this wont be an AP boost and more a way to keep Immortals from regening.

@Kurozumi Wiwi @Sentinel @Zoinks52 ,etc
Well there is that theory of Elbaph having time dilation, so....

That said, obviously there is some element of exaggeration to all the discourse here though lol.

I mean we haven't got anything detailed yet, have we? So let's see what this is actually about.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Why would they talk to enemies? Also I think Kaido might actually have that application to deal lasting damage to immortals simply because the Gorosei were afraid of angering him. And he was in God Valley where there were HKs. Other than that, just because you have something the other doesnt doesnt make you weaker.

For example Hyogoro had better haki mastery then Luffy yet was weaker then him.
I don't really care for how strong Kaidou was at this point, this is just the tip of the iceburg for how irrelevant Oda is going to make the entire Yonkou saga look.
 
Even Dragon might possess better CoC than Shanks just because Loda hasn't show off their haki abilities yet doesn't place shanks above them.
I can see Dragon but it's barely 5%

Shanks is THE most tied character with the concept of CoC since the VERY chapter 1
it's simply a narrative choice
not a debate
 
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