Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1154 Spoilers Discussion
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Interesting about Rocks reveal.
What is he originally?? If he was in Mariejoa, he's either a noble, some royal guard or even HK.
The strongest case here is he was a HK, especially this current arc is all about HK.
(But a D member being a high ranking Celestial Dragon sounds illogical as per story?? But whatever)
Indeed Rocks knew Imu and have a thought that noone will ever even think about pursuing it even in their wildest dream aka overthrow Imu.
But he knew it was impossible to overthrow a supreme being like Imu without some extraordinary power.
The theory about Rocks main goal at GV was to search for the Nika fruit might be true afterall.
He obviously know about Nika fruit and its mandatory to achieve his goal and become king of the world.
He might not be the PK, but this dude already knows most of what Roger crew learn about at the end of their journey
What is he originally?? If he was in Mariejoa, he's either a noble, some royal guard or even HK.
The strongest case here is he was a HK, especially this current arc is all about HK.
(But a D member being a high ranking Celestial Dragon sounds illogical as per story?? But whatever)
Indeed Rocks knew Imu and have a thought that noone will ever even think about pursuing it even in their wildest dream aka overthrow Imu.
But he knew it was impossible to overthrow a supreme being like Imu without some extraordinary power.
The theory about Rocks main goal at GV was to search for the Nika fruit might be true afterall.
He obviously know about Nika fruit and its mandatory to achieve his goal and become king of the world.
He might not be the PK, but this dude already knows most of what Roger crew learn about at the end of their journey
I mean Nika has tons of connections to christianity within One Piece itself
Like Kuma's bible and him seemingly worshipping Nika
A sun being in the middle of the cross in the church
Gear 5 looking almost entirely like Jesus' transformation on the mount in Mark 9
.
Mark 9:2-4
And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.
4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
.
The Bible also calls God a consuming fire ( maybe the eternal flame ? )
.
Hebrews 12:29
29 For our God is a consuming fire.
.
Exodus 24:16-18
16 And the glory of the Lord abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud.
17 And the sight of the glory of the Lord was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.
18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.
.
Also fruits awaken when the user matches up with them right?
Luffy died then the fruit awakened
.
John 11:25-27
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
27
She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
.
Jesus is the resurrection
So if Nika was an in-universe name for him
And if the Nika fruit were to awaken
Matching up with its will may mean dying then it resurrects you
And I mean Imu has tons of demonic imagery, calls his power "the power of evil", and Sabo says hell is at the top of the world
.
2 Corinthians 4:1-4
1
Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
2
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
3
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
.
While the Bible calls Satan the god of the world in 2 Corinthians 4:4 ^
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/the-parallels-between-jesus-and-nika-not-luffy.61888/
There are other things too, like Roger asking Rayleigh if he wants to turn the world upside down with him
.
Acts 17:5-7
5 But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people.
6 And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also;
7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, one Jesus.
.
And believers are called men who have turned the world upside down in Acts 17:6 ^
There are also things like, Logiko's theory about the ancient kingdom being a kingdom of children, just from in story themes, Logiko at least when we talked was an atheist
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/neverland-the-ancient-kingdom-was-full-of-kids.58175/
Which matches up with this:
.
Mark 10:13-16
13 And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.
14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
16 And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.
.
And the sun god part may be because
.
Revelation 22:16
“I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”
.
Like Kuma's bible and him seemingly worshipping Nika
A sun being in the middle of the cross in the church
Gear 5 looking almost entirely like Jesus' transformation on the mount in Mark 9
.
Mark 9:2-4
And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.
4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
.
The Bible also calls God a consuming fire ( maybe the eternal flame ? )
.
Hebrews 12:29
29 For our God is a consuming fire.
.
Exodus 24:16-18
16 And the glory of the Lord abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud.
17 And the sight of the glory of the Lord was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.
18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.
.
Also fruits awaken when the user matches up with them right?
Luffy died then the fruit awakened
.
John 11:25-27
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
27
She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
.
Jesus is the resurrection
So if Nika was an in-universe name for him
And if the Nika fruit were to awaken
Matching up with its will may mean dying then it resurrects you
And I mean Imu has tons of demonic imagery, calls his power "the power of evil", and Sabo says hell is at the top of the world
.
2 Corinthians 4:1-4
1
Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
2
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
3
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
.
While the Bible calls Satan the god of the world in 2 Corinthians 4:4 ^
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/the-parallels-between-jesus-and-nika-not-luffy.61888/
There are other things too, like Roger asking Rayleigh if he wants to turn the world upside down with him
.
Acts 17:5-7
5 But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people.
6 And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also;
7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, one Jesus.
.
And believers are called men who have turned the world upside down in Acts 17:6 ^
There are also things like, Logiko's theory about the ancient kingdom being a kingdom of children, just from in story themes, Logiko at least when we talked was an atheist
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/neverland-the-ancient-kingdom-was-full-of-kids.58175/
Which matches up with this:
.
Mark 10:13-16
13 And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.
14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
16 And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.
.
And the sun god part may be because
.
Revelation 22:16
“I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”
.
If you wanna pursuit this idea and what i'll say next i'll doubt:
Rocks could be a noble whose ambitions grew too high and later added a D. to his name as a symbol similar...or bigger than luffy burning the world gov flag
Rememeber that Roger had his D. hidden as in Gold instead of Gol D. by the gov
oh well
PARALLELELELELELLLLLLLS
Rocks could be a noble whose ambitions grew too high and later added a D. to his name as a symbol similar...or bigger than luffy burning the world gov flag
Rememeber that Roger had his D. hidden as in Gold instead of Gol D. by the gov
oh well
PARALLELELELELELLLLLLLS
More about how an appearence of Jesus looks like:
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Revelation 4:10-16
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
.
Revelation 4:10-16
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Interesting about Rocks reveal.
What is he originally?? If he was in Mariejoa, he's either a noble, some royal guard or even HK.
The strongest case here is he was a HK, especially this current arc is all about HK.
(But a D member being a high ranking Celestial Dragon sounds illogical as per story?? But whatever)
Indeed Rocks knew Imu and have a thought that noone will ever even think about pursuing it even in their wildest dream aka overthrow Imu.
But he knew it was impossible to overthrow a supreme being like Imu without some extraordinary power.
The theory about Rocks main goal at GV was to search for the Nika fruit might be true afterall.
He obviously know about Nika fruit and its mandatory to achieve his goal and become king of the world.
He might not be the PK, but this dude already knows most of what Roger crew learn about at the end of their journey
What is he originally?? If he was in Mariejoa, he's either a noble, some royal guard or even HK.
The strongest case here is he was a HK, especially this current arc is all about HK.
(But a D member being a high ranking Celestial Dragon sounds illogical as per story?? But whatever)
Indeed Rocks knew Imu and have a thought that noone will ever even think about pursuing it even in their wildest dream aka overthrow Imu.
But he knew it was impossible to overthrow a supreme being like Imu without some extraordinary power.
The theory about Rocks main goal at GV was to search for the Nika fruit might be true afterall.
He obviously know about Nika fruit and its mandatory to achieve his goal and become king of the world.
He might not be the PK, but this dude already knows most of what Roger crew learn about at the end of their journey
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