Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1154 Spoilers Discussion

[Roo]

I almost forgot - i don't know if anyone mentioned this but - we get a chapter revealing Rocks, and the title of that chapter is "Unable to die" - i know that's pure madness but there's a chance.

Everything we know and Teach and Rocks = dead of Rocks is SUS.

Let's put it this way - until the manga shows me that Rocks actually died - i won't believe it.

It is very likely that Rock still lives within Teach, which will be going against the inherited will thing the protagonist follows

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Sengoku described Rocks as maybe being his greatest foe. This doesn't compute with that.

I'm actually m


My bad, I'm high as shit.



Based on what?



What are you basing any of this on?

Rocky port incident

 

[Rumble]

I think it’s a simple retcon, oda is not above that. I don’t think Rocks was a thing back then, just like Ace wasn’t Roger’s son at the BOS

Retcons are possible and retcons can be simple, but there is no evidence of Oda retconning anything in this respect.

Whitebeard's aching scar thing is a very common trope. Roger was his greatest rival. He is the likeliest person to have given it to him.

 

[Roo]

Retcons are possible and retcons can be simple, but there is no evidence of Oda retconning anything in this respect.

Whitebeard's aching scar thing is a very common trope. Roger was his greatest rival. He is the likeliest person to have given it to him.

Considering we know Garling fought in God Valley and Oda’s history of tying new ideas to events he wrote in the past I don’t think it’s as unlikely and you make it out to be

 

[Jailer]

Xebec had the aura aura power

Like Blackbeard have similar sounding pirate crew osts

 

[Rumble]

Considering we know Garling fought in God Valley and Oda’s history of tying new ideas to events he wrote in the past I don’t think it’s as unlikely and you make it out to be

I think I have Oda retconning WB's meeting with Shanks to refer to Garling 652 chapters before his introduction at the appropriate level of likelihood.

I'm sure Garling is formidable, but I need to see more of him than slaughtering defenseless civilians to put him in the kind of realm you think he's in.

 

[Jailer]

So this means Blackbeard's mother was a marshal

 

[MarineHQ]

It's an emotional day, an Admiral dying is a mere footnote in Rocks' legend, I'll let you off with warning.

It's the reason those other Yonkou clowns joined him in the first place. Xebec did something they couldn't even dream about doing.

 

[Fujishiro]

So the WG knew BB was special ( his heritage was mentioned, aka Xebecs son) and did nothing about his rise? The fuck? First they did nothing about Nika and now this. The WG is getting more retarded by the minute.

 

[Roo]

I think I have Oda retconning WB's meeting with Shanks to refer to Garling 652 chapters before his introduction at the appropriate level of likelihood.

I'm sure Garling is formidable, but I need to see more of him than slaughtering defenseless civilians to put him in the kind of realm you think he's in.

Being related to the self insert and straight hype from
Oda should be enough to confirm he’s formidable

 

[Fujishiro]

It's the reason those other Yonkou clowns joined him in the first place. Xebec did something they couldn't even dream about doing.

He was offering them the world. Its a big ambition and all of them were conquerors dreaming big, charisma man.

 

[Jailer]

So the WG knew BB was special ( his heritage was mentioned, aka Xebecs son) and did nothing about his rise? The fuck? First they did nothing about Nika and now this. The WG is getting more retarded by the minute.

Blackbeard hid under WB's shadow, probably they didn't know Xebec had a son much less a wife

He was this vile villain who killed an admiral. At least until he became famous I think they had no idea who Blackbeard was. I think Marineford is when they started putting dots together

 

[Fujishiro]

Why cant this series have competent antagonists? Closest we have is Akainu and Im sure Oda will find a way to make him do dumb shit once its his turn.

How can you know about Nika and let Luffy go around doing shit for years.

How can you know about BB being Xebecs son and let him rise.

Wtf Oda.

 

[Ven437]

Roger vs Rocks
Garp vs Whitebeard
Rayleigh vs Big Mom
Gaban vs Shiki
Garling vs Kaidou
Bogard vs Gill Bastar

idk, smth like that.

Garling fought WB and gave him PTSD. This is canon

 

[Rumble]

It's the reason those other Yonkou clowns joined him in the first place. Xebec did something they couldn't even dream about doing.

When an Emperor dies or is born, the impact on the world is seismic.

An Admiral dying's barely a blip on the radar.

There's a reason it was the Three Great Powers - those lightweights can't carry justice on their own backs. They've had to be supplemented by Warlords, Pacifista and now Seraphims because they're small fry to Emperors, who are infinitely more threatened by each other.

An Emperor versus an Admiral is the equivalent of a parent wrestling with their kid.

 

[Fujishiro]

Blackbeard hid under WB's shadow, probably they didn't know Xebec had a son much less a wife

He was this vile villain who killed an admiral. At least until he became famous I think they had no idea who Blackbeard was. I think Marineford is when they started putting dots together

Okay so when they put the dots together why are have they been sitting around since MF doing nothing.

 

[Roo]

It took the WG years to realize Ace was Rogers son, I don’t think it’s unrealistic that Teach who purposely hid his power remained outside of the WG’s eyes until it was too late

 

[Fujishiro]

It took the WG years to realize Ace was Rogers son, I don’t think it’s unrealistic that Teach who purposely hid his power remained outside of the WG’s eyes until it was too late

Maybe, its still bugging me. Saturn spoke of his heritage like it was something he knew for a while.

 

[RyoQ]

Props to Xebec for beating an Admiral however way he did it, something no mere PK-lvl could do

 

[MonochromeYoru]

It took the WG years to realize Ace was Rogers son, I don’t think it’s unrealistic that Teach who purposely hid his power remained outside of the WG’s eyes until it was too late

Besides

Rock was a lean dude

BB was a fat fuck even when he was a kid

WG deserves a break this time