Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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I get the Croc love-fest but y'all gotta be able to rationalize it in a way for us to make it believable.

Lucci got re-introduced into the story but he didn't just comback with his pre-ts skill set.
Oda had to give him awakening in order to justify him being in that high commander range.

Notion that Croc who's is terminally dependent on his fruit is going to somehow come into the story with just his logia in a world where powerful haki and other abilities exist and smoke some of the strongest high tiers isn't very convincing even with power-creep as the justification.

At least lead with awakening or something coz otherwise it's very hard to visualize.

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Marineford makes it easy to visualize. Croc with absolutely zero changes from Alabasta was able to clash with top tiers in Marineford.

And in a story where a characters strength is associated with their will, you think seeing the only wall that’s ever stood in his way crumbling and returning to the new world with a newfound vigor didn’t make him stronger?

Again it’s not hard to visualize at all. What is hard to visualize is this notion that Mihawk would find working alongside a weakling a good idea or that the WG would find any commander worthy of a near 2 billion bounty…
 
Considering that Garp is PK-tier, Oda really did not give him justice on Hachinosu. The BBP shouldn’t have gotten back up. He used Galaxy Impact on the floor instead of an actual character lmfaoo. I guess Oda was hesitant on showing Kuzan take that head-on.
Nah oda wanted that retard Loby to shine. So he sidelined garp. It was all so fucking artificial
 
Considering that Garp is PK-tier, Oda really did not give him justice on Hachinosu. The BBP shouldn’t have gotten back up. He used Galaxy Impact on the floor instead of an actual character lmfaoo. I guess Oda was hesitant on showing Kuzan take that head-on.
Kuzan is a high top tier himself and took various advCoC hits (the only one to do so). Also, he is Garp's own apprentice.

The rest never had any chance.
 
Considering that Garp is PK-tier, Oda really did not give him justice on Hachinosu. The BBP shouldn’t have gotten back up. He used Galaxy Impact on the floor instead of an actual character lmfaoo. I guess Oda was hesitant on showing Kuzan take that head-on.
Avalo Wizarro took Galaxy Divide head-on and was still in fighting shape, I tell you guys to invest in his stocks but for some reason people crossed him as a mid trio victim
 
Kuzan is a high top tier himself and took various advCoC hits (the only one to do so). Also, he is Garp's own apprentice.

The rest never had any chance.
Garp didn’t knock out anybody, probably because he didn’t use real moves on them.
Avalo Wizarro took Galaxy Divide head-on and was still in fighting shape, I tell you guys to invest in his stocks but for some reason people crossed him as a mid trio victim
Glorified Pica, Garp should have knocked him out.
 
Considering that Garp is PK-tier, Oda really did not give him justice on Hachinosu. The BBP shouldn’t have gotten back up. He used Galaxy Impact on the floor instead of an actual character lmfaoo. I guess Oda was hesitant on showing Kuzan take that head-on.
Garp was overpowering kuzan and the bb pirates just look at all the excuses fans comeup with kuzan with regards to his performance
 

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Considering that Garp is PK-tier, Oda really did not give him justice on Hachinosu. The BBP shouldn’t have gotten back up. He used Galaxy Impact on the floor instead of an actual character lmfaoo. I guess Oda was hesitant on showing Kuzan take that head-on.
First the BBP were protected by plot obviously they are end game enemies they must be protected

Also Garp showing in Hachinosu isn’t bad at all. The man isn’t even old, close to 80, but even more the guy has been retired for 2 years now.

Garp fought an other top tier with Aokiji, he fought 4 other BBP and among them Shiryu who was at least a YC1+. He also fought nerfed because he had to protect Koby and his biggest wound was because of Koby when he took the hit for him.

Garp showings in Hachinosu is far far from bad lol
 
Garp didn’t knock out anybody, probably because he didn’t use real moves on them.

Glorified Pica, Garp should have knocked him out.
I wanted to say Oda likely didn't want to take away from BBP hype too much by having one of the captains knocked out but then he had 2 get off screen by Hancock and half the BBP get flash freezed by Kuzan so I don't know.
At least he kinda made Shiryu look like scrub, who is likely going to be a future opponent for Zoro with COC mastered.
I do think the likes of Vasco Shot and Sanjuan Wolf should ve been knocked out fof good.
 
Garp didn’t knock out anybody, probably because he didn’t use real moves on them.
Yeah, but garp didn't attack anybody outside of Kuzan and one time Pizarro in island form.

Shiliew was just thrown without even haki, and still looked like he took a serious hit. There was SWJ too, ok, but Garp literally sent him outside the island.

Only Kuzan took his AdvCoC hits more than once. And among the other BBP, only Pizarro took an AdvCoC hit.
 
Considering that Garp is PK-tier, Oda really did not give him justice on Hachinosu. The BBP shouldn’t have gotten back up. He used Galaxy Impact on the floor instead of an actual character lmfaoo. I guess Oda was hesitant on showing Kuzan take that head-on.
Sick WB looked better but it is most likely due to lack of screen time for garp.
 
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