Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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Garp showed better speed blitzing Kuzan twice but everything else WB was better. AP , DC , Endurance etc WB while sick was better in all of these stats. Garp was more explosive for sure though.
Imho, Garp looked simply better against top tiers.

If you look at Akainu vs WB, before WB rage moment and cheapshot, Akainu was clean; WB never even managed to hit him and Akainu blocked both his Saijo (with hand in pockets) and his Gura Gura attacks (with a Dai Funka?):



Has never hit Aokiji or Kizaru too.
 
roger settling for a woman who will later die giving birth to his kid is kinda sad. Flashback didn’t do rouge any favors
need to see the panels to actually know wagwan but I mean it could simply be that everyone on Roger's ship was fawning over Shakky and Rayleigh was indifferent (akin to how Luffy and Zoro are usually are) hence Shakky's interest in Rayleigh kinda like how Luffy/Hancock developed. In a sense I'm kinda glad Roger is actually interested in women as opposed to Luffy lol

Also not exactly sure why Oda is highlighting this dynamic but we know Glorosia joined Rocks even though she was apparently love sick for Roger so maybe there is going to be something that comes of that in relation to God Valley. At least I hope coz Glorosia joining Rocks at this point doesn't make much sense with this development.

I don't really think this hurts rogue in anyway, if anything Roger might have been a cassanova like Gaban in his younger days lol

Need to actually see the panels to form an proper opinion on it imo.
 
Imho, Garp looked simply better against top tiers.

If you look at Akainu vs WB, before WB rage moment and cheapshot, Akainu was clean; WB never even managed to hit him and Akainu blocked both his Saijo (with hand in pockets) and his Gura Gura attacks (with a Dai Funka?):



Has never hit Aokiji or Kizaru too.


WB's endurance was much better though and his AP put akainu down for some time where as pizarro endured garp's attack.

Also akainu's magma is not the same as Kuzan's freezing which WB also got out of. We do not know how the fight between WB and Kuzan would have gone had it continued. Also this is sick weakened WB.
 
Hi

any dead theory fans

it most likely true after all you can see for your self:
Garp has Dragon and a grandson Luffy
Roger had ace even if ace is gone and i think Shanks was adopted by him.
Rock has BB
Oden has Momonosuke
Garling has Shanks and Shamrock
WB has Weevil if it turn to be true and many adopted sons
Gaban has a giant kid.
Harald has Loki and Hajrudin
and Rayleigh should have a son seems to be married since a long time with Shakky so time line is possible.
to be honest even if Hancock is his daughter it will not surprise me as well lol after all he went to rescue her from BB.
and not saying that those are your children we already know the reason Dragon said that the child is the parents' weakness
 


WB's endurance was much better though and his AP put akainu down for some time where as pizarro endured garp's attack.

Also akainu's magma is not the same as Kuzan's freezing which WB also got out of. We do not know how the fight between WB and Kuzan would have gone had it continued. Also this is sick weakened WB.
His AP and DC looks better, one gura strike needed the combined acoa of the admirals to cancel it out. This was also damn near 600 chapters ago and haki isn’t even fleshed out. If Marineford happened today then WB would look even better.
 
IIRC the pain/damage is transferred to pizarro's main body doesn't it?
Not in same way. He feel the pain, but he still has his stone golem who take the most damage.
Imagine if Garp hit him in the head with his punch, you think he would survive it?

San Wolf was knocked out with one punch as example and I doubt Garp used his higher end attacks.

In a direct hit, none Teach pirate except Kuzan and Teach, would endure Garp attacks.
 
Please if we saw wb in the current day getting hurt by fodder guns and swords they would be clowning on him nonstop.

Just look at how many people rate mf wb as the weakest emperor.

Lastly wb could only match a sick dying Roger 🤧
I'm referring to the difference in respect/portrayal





Hell there were literally songs made known by little kids to tell how much of a monster Whitebeard was to the point they gathered the entire WG forces(Marines + Shichibukai) just for him

Only thing that was unexpected was to which extent Whitebeard's sickness deteriorated him, but Old Whitebeard had much better respect/portrayal than Garp
 
rayleigh broke the bro code and went after the girl his captain liked

did nothing when rogers babymomma was getting hunted, did nothing when rogers son was born till the point he died

he spent his years drinking and gambling and thirsting over young girls


did rayleigh even like his captain? worst right hand ever
 


WB's endurance was much better though and his AP put akainu down for some time where as pizarro endured garp's attack.

Also akainu's magma is not the same as Kuzan's freezing which WB also got out of. We do not know how the fight between WB and Kuzan would have gone had it continued. Also this is sick weakened WB.
In endurance there is no contest, I agree, but consider we didn't see Garp's las standing and every attack from a top tier is worth 10.000 hits from the nobody who hit WB.
 
I'm referring to the difference in respect/portrayal





Only thing that was unexpected was to which extent Whitebeard's sickness deteriorated him, but Old Whitebeard had much better respect/portrayal than Garp
Ltierally called strongest man in the world, alone this put him=>Garp at least.
Since they both are from the same era, he is only 6 years younger. Yet he has the title, not Garp.
 
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