Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1160 Spoilers discussion thread

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But Oda has a specific message about love. The bad guy cannot be motivated and empowered by the same thing as the good guy. That make love itself a non-factor and not worth anything if it means the same thing to both sides. To Oda, Love is a good thing, so he won’t have the bad guys also motivated by the same thing the good guys are.

The problem with your lineage factor theory is that it’s TOO nebulous. Controlling your lineage factor is like, well what’s even the limit of that? Can you make yourself a different race? Can you make yourself a woman when you’re a man? That statement is too broad

in my theory I dont say “Buccaneers can control their souls”. I say Buccaneers can split their souls. That’s it. So it seems like they have multiple souls. And that one simple ability can produce different results of Kuma resisting mind erasure and Teach can eat two DFs
Wait what? Bad and good guys get motivated by the same stuff all the time in one piece? Katakuri was also literally motivated by love.

I mean it’s odas writing. What can it do? It can change your dna so that even science can’t stop you. It can allow you to hear your daughter in trouble from the other side of the world. It can allow you to do the impossible. That’s kinda the point of the power
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Still JJk is much above the rest
Think of Shibuya as Crocodile's work in alabasta but scaled down to 1%. Now see how many times comparable or worse things happened.
JJK is our world with a bit more "terrorist attacks".
Fuck that, I'd take Alabasta any day over Shibuya, with a smile on my face.

Not being able to see a bunch of genocidal curses using you as fodder at any given point is worst case scenario for me. You're basically livestock in the jjk verse, up to a sorcerer or curse's discretion whether you become their plaything that day or not.
 
Fuck that, I'd take Alabasta any day over Shibuya, with a smile on my face.

Not being able to see a bunch of genocidal curses using you as fodder at any given point is worst case scenario for me. You're basically livestock in the jjk verse, up to a sorcerer or curses discretion whether you become their plaything that day or not.
Yeah but the scale is much lower bro
Alabasta's situation took much more lives
How many died in Shibuya? Thousands?

And Alabasta is the norm and is repeated in every island since, while Shibuya is the worst it can get in JJK. Op's population has literally been genocided twice and the third time is coming again.
 
I haven't read JJK but I think
JJBA:can suck depending on where you live, but most of the world isn't affected. Except for the end of p6, I guess
HXH: most of the crazy shit is in the dark continent and except for the rare situation where something gets out. Nen users are far and few between, but obviously dealing with the troupe would suck
Naruto: You could have terrible world wars and monsters, but there's at least some level of statesmanship keeping the conflicts to a minimum usually. Naruto himself grows up in something like global stability, and most of the Naruto world actually lives in the five countries, and not in the ninja villages. I don't know how bad the alien stuff gets in Boruto though. Could be bumped up
AOT: pretty fucked up, but depends on when and where you're at.
OPM: pretty horrible monsters, and you can't rely on someone saving you most of the time, but at least there's some hope
OP: The world has ended twice essentially, ancient weapons exist, giants terrorizing countries, obviously celestial dragon tyranny, pirates fucking over countries, Rocks burning down towns, Countries being enslaved like Wano,horrible monsters and sea creatures that could easily destroy your town, horrible weather and conditions, implication of some pretty bad diseases and brutal wars between countries, as well as human trafficking/racism. Though it depends on when/where you're born, but the implication seems to be that the world might have been *worse* before the government existed, which is pretty horrifying.
Dragon Ball: You could have your entire planet wiped out by some weird alien shit, or like, Beerus.
 
Wait what? Bad and good guys get motivated by the same stuff all the time in one piece? Katakuri was also literally motivated by love.

I mean it’s odas writing. What can it do? It can change your dna so that even science can’t stop you. It can allow you to hear your daughter in trouble from the other side of the world. It can allow you to do the impossible. That’s kinda the point of the power
Katakuri was motivated by shame. That was his whole thing. The shame around his face. His entire character arc in the fight was about shame.

So you’re saying the buccaneers have Luffy’s g5 power then, is that it? They can do whatever the plot wants? Okay.

I’m gonna go with something simpler and more direct.
 
Katakuri was motivated by shame. That was his whole thing. The shame around his face. His entire character arc in the fight was about shame.

So you’re saying the buccaneers have Luffy’s g5 power then, is that it? They can do whatever the plot wants? Okay.

I’m gonna go with something simpler and more direct.
Kata fought for love. He personally didn’t care that he looked monstrous, but he needed to be “perfect” for his family.

And no I’m saying buccaneers have the ability to do the impossible with a strong enough motivator in Kumas case love. Even if it means physically altering their own lineage factor to do it
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Yeah but the scale is much lower bro
Alabasta's situation took much more lives
How many died in Shibuya? Thousands?

And Alabasta is repeated in every island since while Shibuya is the worst it can get. Op's population has literally been genocided twice and the third time is coming again.
I really don't care though, the scale of death in our world is probably higher than even OPM verse. The scale isn't what matters to me, the frequency and ability to plan ahead of time are the two key factors I'm looking at.

It's the idea that I have no way to prep or even defend myself from a bunch of beings that can use me like cattle. I want the most control over my situation as much as possible, atleast in the One Piece world I can make sense of what's going on and just try to avoid it to the best of my ability. Like move to some random village away from the New World in hopes it doesn't get taken over. In JJK I'm just a clueless retard with demons walking around me, life or death is a coin flip entirely based on my luck.
 
Kata fought for love. He personally didn’t care that he looked monstrous, but he needed to be “perfect” for his family.
He didn’t fight for love. The strawhats were already running away. Which of his loved ones was in danger when the strawhats were running away. The only person the strawhats were actively trying to harm when Luffy vs Katakuri was happening was Big mom herself with the Cake… The character Katakuri hated

I have no idea where you’re getting all this. Is it because of the flashback? With brûlée? You think he was fighting for Brûlée? Tf?

Again, you’re saying Kuma can do whatever the plot wants then, right? That somehow DNA can do anything the plot wants without and rhyme or reason. Which is basically the G5 ability
 
From best to worst to live in as a random fodder.

Dragonball
HxH
JJBA
One Piece
Naruto
JJK
One Punch Man


Attack On Titan much like the real world depends where I spawned. Could be the best or worst, if I average it out its probably the best or right after dragonball.
Your logic for AOT is fine at first thought until you take into account that 80% of humanity gets genocided
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
He did kill 80%, his intention was to kill all 100% (aside from the few select people he cared about) but he was stopped before he could
Shit I must have erased that out my memory, that's how bad that ending was. I think I'm trying to forget every detail from the last 10 or so chapters as much as I can consciously or subconsciously.
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Fair. Still it's by far not the most peaceful option.
Anyone know how safe JJBA is? I still think that's the best choice. That or JJK
JJBA is much like JJK in that a random stand user can toy with you and you wouldn't even know it. And the abilities are so fucked up they affect the entire planet. Like some dude could have sped time up or put you on some alternate timeline and you would never know. Definitely a couple verses I'd rather be in than JJBA.
 
The only good thing about living in the OP verse is you know Papazuki became the fleet admiral. Imagine living under Bumgoku, with this retard sweating or spending half his time hyping up fucking Boa Hancock while your village gets looted by pirates. Kuzan would be even worse since he isn't even strong and spends all his time sleeping or on biking trips
 
He didn’t fight for love. The strawhats were already running away. Which of his loved ones was in danger when the strawhats were running away. The only person the strawhats were actively trying to harm when Luffy vs Katakuri was happening was Big mom herself with the Cake… The character Katakuri hated

I have no idea where you’re getting all this. Is it because of the flashback? With brûlée? You think he was fighting for Brûlée? Tf?

Again, you’re saying Kuma can do whatever the plot wants then, right? That somehow DNA can do anything the plot wants without and rhyme or reason. Which is basically the G5 ability
He 100 percent was fighting for the love of his family. Please go read WCI cause I think you skipped it if you’re seriously pushing Kata was not motivated by the love of his family. (It’s legit written out in 902 the sole reason kata was faking being perfect was his love for his siblings)

Luffy can do it at will. Kuma would only be able to perform these feats of logic defying abilities under specific circumstances.
 
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