Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread
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Finally we get to see Rayleigh use his advanced armament in action and not just to break chains
It’s so funny how many people were upset at the thought of Rayleigh’s main haki being armament + Gaban being even relevant
Pretty much I think Rayleigh and gaban were masters in armament and observation haki respectively
We already know for a fact Rayleigh has the highest level of armament so that’s pretty much set. So maybe he’s a master of that internal version
Like having all 3 alone doesn’t mean you’ve mastered each level. From what we’ve seen each can be pushed further with things like full body hardening for basic, what kizaru does for emissions, etc. so yeah why not give ray the highest mastery of the last level. If he mastered the other 2 I wouldn’t mind either lol
Obviously we don’t really know shit about gaban besides him being one of Roger’s top men just after Rayleigh but I just think it’s fun speculation so yeah
With Rayleigh being the armament master it’d be cool if gaban was the observation haki master. Maybe knowing how to do things like future sight and observation killing and other techniques idk. Again I just think it’d be cool if Roger’s top 2 men specialized and mastered each
Roger most likely mastering both with maybe knowing some unknown rare conquerors abilities on top of that
Odens in the picture so ima mention him too
I don’t think oden had internal armament or future observation but I do think through the mastery of his swords enma and ame no habakiri. Like while oden “only” has emissions armament enma helps boost his output beyond normal kinda making up for the fact he doesn’t have internal. Imo habakiri might be tied to observation haki and his sensory abilities. So despite “only” having basic observation it can be enhanced somehow
It’s so funny how many people were upset at the thought of Rayleigh’s main haki being armament + Gaban being even relevant
Pretty much I think Rayleigh and gaban were masters in armament and observation haki respectively
We already know for a fact Rayleigh has the highest level of armament so that’s pretty much set. So maybe he’s a master of that internal version
Like having all 3 alone doesn’t mean you’ve mastered each level. From what we’ve seen each can be pushed further with things like full body hardening for basic, what kizaru does for emissions, etc. so yeah why not give ray the highest mastery of the last level. If he mastered the other 2 I wouldn’t mind either lol
Obviously we don’t really know shit about gaban besides him being one of Roger’s top men just after Rayleigh but I just think it’s fun speculation so yeah
With Rayleigh being the armament master it’d be cool if gaban was the observation haki master. Maybe knowing how to do things like future sight and observation killing and other techniques idk. Again I just think it’d be cool if Roger’s top 2 men specialized and mastered each
Roger most likely mastering both with maybe knowing some unknown rare conquerors abilities on top of that
Odens in the picture so ima mention him too
I don’t think oden had internal armament or future observation but I do think through the mastery of his swords enma and ame no habakiri. Like while oden “only” has emissions armament enma helps boost his output beyond normal kinda making up for the fact he doesn’t have internal. Imo habakiri might be tied to observation haki and his sensory abilities. So despite “only” having basic observation it can be enhanced somehow
Garp had the entrance and the hype this chapter, WB also got his HK feat. Roger only got this WB clash so far.
Hahahahahajah
Thats some self comforting going on
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Nah brah what. Linlin AT LEAST gauged garp's strength by testing him out. On the other hand WB saw Linlin launch a fire atk that Garp brushed aside (might be even weaker than heavenly bonbon) and concluded he had nothing better than Prometheus to offer. But ok, Prom > gura 
Thats some self comforting going on
What the actual fuck?
Kaido breaks people will to join his crew. He tried with Kid for example.
Kaido never kept an eye on Luffy. He only acknowledged him when he beated Doffy.
Luffy fought Katakuri way longer. And Cracker too.
That's definitely not the case. Otherwise theyd either force Garp to be fleet Admiral or kick him out of Marines and would never accept civilians as Admirals like Greenbull and Fujitora.
Garp is specifically not being an Admiral so he doesn't have to respond to Tenryuubitos.
He almost burned him to death. He just restrained himself because it was a Holy land and he couldn't hurt tenryuubitos.
I believe we never saw an enemy haki bloom.
Chinjao didn't said much. Just that CoC are the ones who become the greatests
Kaido breaks people will to join his crew. He tried with Kid for example.
Kaido never kept an eye on Luffy. He only acknowledged him when he beated Doffy.
Luffy fought Katakuri way longer. And Cracker too.
That's definitely not the case. Otherwise theyd either force Garp to be fleet Admiral or kick him out of Marines and would never accept civilians as Admirals like Greenbull and Fujitora.
Garp is specifically not being an Admiral so he doesn't have to respond to Tenryuubitos.
He almost burned him to death. He just restrained himself because it was a Holy land and he couldn't hurt tenryuubitos.
I believe we never saw an enemy haki bloom.
Chinjao didn't said much. Just that CoC are the ones who become the greatests
My main take away from this is Sommers is used to having an arm cut off
Thanks for not using 'god' tier in your scaling (really uncomfortable to read).
If you take a step back and then compare eras you will realize how weak this era actually is compared to old gen.
We have four ACoC users Luffy, Zoro, Yamato, Loki and who can be considered top tiers (handful of the very strongest). Compare that to old gen which had Rocks, Roger, Ray, Garp, WB, BM, Sengoku, Oden, Kaido, Shiki, Harald, Gaban.
Going by generic shonen trope the current gen will surpass all previous gens and this is supposed to be the worst gen of all so they should have the strongest stack and for that you need Sabo, Kid, Law, Sanji, Killer, Coby, Momo, Wyper etc. to be at least as strong as old gen guys.
I am not a fan of power creep but when I look at things this way I have to accept that some of these guys will be in the realm of Roge/WB/Kaido
If you take a step back and then compare eras you will realize how weak this era actually is compared to old gen.
We have four ACoC users Luffy, Zoro, Yamato, Loki and who can be considered top tiers (handful of the very strongest). Compare that to old gen which had Rocks, Roger, Ray, Garp, WB, BM, Sengoku, Oden, Kaido, Shiki, Harald, Gaban.
Going by generic shonen trope the current gen will surpass all previous gens and this is supposed to be the worst gen of all so they should have the strongest stack and for that you need Sabo, Kid, Law, Sanji, Killer, Coby, Momo, Wyper etc. to be at least as strong as old gen guys.
I am not a fan of power creep but when I look at things this way I have to accept that some of these guys will be in the realm of Roge/WB/Kaido
More Oden + enma wank
Only man capable of cutting Kaido with other top tier blade users not even focused on cutting
He’ll the only ones cutting him after being his retainers and Zoro
If oden was truly the strongest swordsman of his time
Only man capable of cutting Kaido with other top tier blade users not even focused on cutting
He’ll the only ones cutting him after being his retainers and Zoro
- Retainers carrying on his soul/spirit through themselves against ptsd Kaido
- Zoro using enma + enma itself carrying on oden’s soul/spirit as well
If oden was truly the strongest swordsman of his time