Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread

Who has the greatest cutting skills ?


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You’re not really understanding Kaidou’s character in this flashback… Oda has been showing that Kaidou, in his youth from 15 → 17 → 21 years old, was already able to match Xebec, Roger, and Garp, and 10 years later he became stronger than ALL of them. Man, you’d have to be truly dumb not to see this. Kaidou is the WSC; his growth in strength is superior. For example, a 10-year-old Kaidou is EQUAL to a 25-year-old Roger.
Now where it show Kaido could match rocks .
He want to fight rocks and then back down but wanting to fight someone don't mean you can beat them we seen that countless time in the manga .
Also how the hell is Kaido stronger than Xebec, Roger, and Garp 10 years later .
When he was about to died from Oden who was weaker than Roger or WB at the time as we seen in the oden flashback.
Which come years after this one .
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I asked you why WB didn't attacked Garp which you replied by saying he is cowardly.

I showed you Sick Old WB had no issues going to war against whole marines plus Warlords.
These ideas are not contradictory, Whitebeard was far older, far stronger, and far closer to death when he fought the Navy lmfao. There was no tangent at all. You brought up Whitebeard because you were desperate for me to stop pointing out how pathetic Crydo is, but Oda established a long time ago that Primebeard was a fraudulent coward as well.
 
Now headcanon Is pointing out who said what I suppose lol.

Yeah, then BM tried to attack Garp, she got an heart attack and kept running.
It is absolutely headcanon when we don't actually have their dialogue. Spoilers say that both Big Mom and Whitebeard told Kaido they didn't want to waste time on fighting Garp and the blurred out dialogue bubbles don't clearly indicate Whitebeard saying so and Big Mom not.

So, yeah. Complete and total headcanon. Lol.

They were running, Big Mom threw an attack to keep him from following, and then she kept running. Her surprise at how well he took it doesn't change the basic facts of them not trying to start an actual fight.

Lee's a liar. And you're a dishonest participant for trying to back him up on that.
 
People forget that Kizaru speech suggest when he is serious and when is not.

Roger missed dialogues will be explored by sandman and Redon line about Roger pretending and not fighting seriously will be confirmed. Roger way of speak will confirm this and that he pretended on purpose to make Ray go and not steal the scene when he could have sent Fraudbeard fly easily.

Cry harder WB fans.
 
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