Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread

[MonochromeYoru]

He owns Luffy a lot, yeah, and he Is a fangirl, yes, but:

Which anyway wasn't new:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/i1tojpoqiy7c1.png

He actually tried at MF too.

lol

this clown won't do shit against goofy
just like in mf, he will get one punched

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Koby has even the same nickname as Garp, not to mention the same moves. And he Is Garp's disciple.

Parallels regularly have very different fighting styles. Luffy and Roger for example so them having the same movies really don’t matter.

Not to mention no parallel is a disciple of their previous generation.

Coby isn’t a Garp parallel he and luffy have a very different dynamic

 

[Dragon777]

lol

this clown won't do shit against goofy
just like in mf, he will get one punched

I wouldn't see the point of Hachinsou and this:

Then.

 

[ZenZu]

@ZenZu Ngl Rayleigh might be one of the worst male role models in the series. Bro hooked up with Shakky and then ditched her for another 13 years, never even formally married her, constantly cheats, and never had a kid with her despite having plenty of time. Waban is the real GOAT

I agree, he's not a good role model.

 

[SakazOuki]

Any Garp gas is Shiryu gas @Jailer @Topi Jerami @nik87
And haven't the AssmiraLturds been downplaying Garp for the longest time and now suddenly they are shamelessly leeching

Sword swallower detached from reality, it is always cockroaches like you
This thread says otherwise
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/who-has-better-portrayal-garp-or-mihawk.34474/

 

[Dragon777]

Parallels regularly have very different fighting styles. Luffy and Roger for example so them having the same movies really don’t matter.

Not to mention no parallel is a disciple of their previous generation.

Coby isn’t a Garp parallel he and luffy have a very different dynamic

Becuase all old gen big names died or doesn't have parallels (WB).
Only Koby got trained by his own.

Also, wouldn't you say Shanks is the middle gen Roger then?

 

[Welkin]

The evil giants was set up more.
1. The arc started with Luffy saying that he and his crew will beat them even if they became his enemies.
2. The Evil Giants joined the arc at the same time as Imu
3. The 2 of them fight one another constantly just like Zoro and Sanjis normal opponents

The HK will be beaten by others, Usopp probably will be the one to beat Killingham after all

Sommers' twisted connection to love makes him a clear cut Sanji opponent ngl

Devi-Dorry and Devi-Brogy will ever be a group effort with Usopp leading the charge (he has the greatest emotional tie to them barring Luffy) or they'll go to Hajrudin and Loki

I'm open to the idea of Zoro and Sanji fighting them but I just don't see it

And I'm a bit biased icl. Sommers looks like a punching bag but it would be so satisfying to see Sanji overcome his thorns before mollywhopping him

 

[SakazOuki]

So lemme get this straight WB BM Kaido all fighting the scum pirates who betray Rocks and terrorize innocent god valley citizens while washing up holy knights

Garp comes in and wants to fight these 3 thereby defending the honor of celestial dragons and their spinoff hunger games event

Truly those Slavery D. Enforcer allegations are as real as the one piece existing

Warp is just a double faced psychopath playing hero with the plebs but in reality is the top 1 CD dog
We truly never grasped the depth of his character

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sommers' twisted connection to love makes him a clear cut Sanji opponent ngl

Devi-Dorry and Devi-Brogy will ever be a group effort with Usopp leading the charge (he has the greatest emotional tie to them barring Luffy) or they'll go to Hajrudin and Loki

I'm open to the idea of Zoro and Sanji fighting them but I just don't see it

And I'm a bit biased icl. Sommers looks like a punching bag but it would be so satisfying to see Sanji overcome his thorns before mollywhopping him

Sommers feels more like a Robin opponent. Oda seems like he’s been setting her up to finally be able to “beat him” (probably just BFR or trap him).

And Killingham is a very clear Usopp opponent.

Oda made sure to hype Dory and Brogy above them and Zoro and Sanji will always fight the two strongest subordinates

 

[DarkWitch]

Sommers' twisted connection to love makes him a clear cut Sanji opponent ngl

Devi-Dorry and Devi-Brogy will ever be a group effort with Usopp leading the charge (he has the greatest emotional tie to them barring Luffy) or they'll go to Hajrudin and Loki

I'm open to the idea of Zoro and Sanji fighting them but I just don't see it

And I'm a bit biased icl. Sommers looks like a punching bag but it would be so satisfying to see Sanji overcome his thorns before mollywhopping him

Sommers was humiliated twice, I can see why some Sanji fans don't want to see Sanji fight Sommers unless Sanji low diffs him.

 

[Venom]

"The Dickhead garp" has no purpose?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Becuase all old gen big names died or doesn't have parallels (WB).
Only Koby got trained by his own.

Also, wouldn't you say Shanks is the middle gen Roger then?

Whitebeard had a parallel in Ace, he just died.

And no. There’s no mid gen anyone, they’re either a parallel or they’re a wannabe.

 

[Superior to you]

Old Rayleigh and Shanks are carbon copies of each other, both in fighting style, also design wise and carefree attitude. I say Old Rayleigh because he was introduced first, and that's exactly who he is. They are used interchangeably in the story for Oda. Both are representations of walking haoshoku haki (both were used for introducing CoC in the story despite dozens of other characters having it, Shanks making GB twerk was immediately followed up by Ray making BB twerk).

If you didn't know this scene you wouldn't be able to tell if the above gif was Ray or Shanks, that's how similar they are.

Rayleigh was not modelled after Zoro's template, not one bit. They share the 2nd strongest rank in their respective crews and some other similarities (drinking and scar) but you can find those similarities in dozens of other characters (including Shanks). The only thing Zoro and Ray share is the fact that Zoro will probably surpass him in power at some point.

So true, newbies forget how much Oda, tried to parallel Shanks & Rayleigh earlier in the story.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Sword swallower detached from reality, it is always cockroaches like you
This thread says otherwise
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/who-has-better-portrayal-garp-or-mihawk.34474/

Wtf is this supposed to show?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Old Rayleigh and Shanks are carbon copies of each other, both in fighting style, also design wise and carefree attitude. I say Old Rayleigh because he was introduced first, and that's exactly who he is. They are used interchangeably in the story for Oda. Both are representations of walking haoshoku haki (both were used for introducing CoC in the story despite dozens of other characters having it, Shanks making GB twerk was immediately followed up by Ray making BB twerk).

If you didn't know this scene you wouldn't be able to tell if the above gif was Ray or Shanks, that's how similar they are.

Rayleigh was not modelled after Zoro's template, not one bit. They share the 2nd strongest rank in their respective crews and some other similarities (drinking and scar) but you can find those similarities in dozens of other characters (including Shanks). The only thing Zoro and Ray share is the fact that Zoro will probably surpass him in power at some point.

Wtf is this comment lmfao
Rayleigh and Zoro are both the first mate
Both the 2nd strongest
They both have a rival who loves women and is very slightly weaker than them
Both swordsmen
Both have eye scars
Both don't show much interest in women
Both have epithets regarding kings of hell (iirc Rayleigh's title is about sending his opponents to hell)
So on and so forth
Hell Sanji was even directly compared to Gaban as a younger version of him, Zoro should reasonably also be a younger version of Rayleigh

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So true, newbies forget how much Oda, tried to parallel Shanks & Rayleigh earlier in the story.

Which is true but at the same time denying that Ralyeigh is heavily based off Zoro as well is so fucking dumb lol

 

[SakazOuki]

Wtf is this supposed to show?

That we always argued for Garp’s strength next to Roger, when sword swallowers thought he was the old eras Smoker and actually nowhere close prime Roger

 

[MarineHQ]

AssmiraLs leechers


Shiryu's inferior doesn't even have CoC, and with the help of an army of pirates from the New World and several Yonko commanders, they were barely managed to handle the weakened, holding back, wounded, and exhausted 78-year-old Garp

I'm dissapointed in you. You bend the knee to @ZenZu slander and insulted Wengoku the other day. You're officially out of the Wengoku fandom. Stay over there, loser.

 

[Dragon777]

Whitebeard had a parallel in Ace, he just died.

Kind of, but Ace was more like what Sabo is for Dragon.

And no. There’s no mid gen anyone, they’re either a parallel or they’re a wannabe.

Seems pretty clear to me Shanks Is a mini (and not so mini) Roger.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

In physical strength maybe, but Garp has far better Haki

Cripplezan literally matched Garp’s Haki while emotionally conflicted lmfao.

Ryokugyu has a black blade as a side quest, Larp isn’t capable of that. Admirals have the best Haki in the verse by far.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kind of, but Ace was more like what Sabo is for Dragon.



Seems pretty clear to me Shanks Is a mini (and not so mini) Roger.

He’s not. Shanks may be a wannabe Roger, but he’s not him. He’s not near as strong nor is he the king.

And Oda paralleled Ace with Whitebeard directly. When Luffy and Roger said the secret dream oda made clear parallels