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If he's a parallel to Garp chances are we'll see him clashing with people like Luffy and.. Law, I guess? Whoever the newgen Whitebeard could be. In order for him to do so, he needs to be above Prime Garp.
Clashing with Law????
We're in the final saga, there's no time for Oda to reorient the series to copy cat and mouse clashes with Koby and this generations top dogs.
Koby has the goal to obstruct Luffy's dream which could lead to a clash or be merely being focused on getting their first/strategy.
Koby does not need to have the most absurd power jump in manga history to make an impact in how the story plays out, Oda has already brought him to a good baseline.
 
Yeah actually it does. Light moves in a straight line no matter what. No matter what Kizaru felt inside, he never strayed from his mission. He verbatim matches his fruit.


Not even Garp has shown enough willpower to leave the Navy despite corrupt leader ship. No other top tier marine has. Just Kuzan.
Kizaru is a very calm and slow talking dude. He does things at his own pace most of the time. Light is fast and sudden.
Difference is Garp and Coby aren’t similar
At this point I don't really care to argue anymore, it won't change Oda's intentions with Koby either way
But I'll remember all this for when it inevitably does happen because just like people switched up on Garp this chapter I just know everyone will switch up on Koby when he pops off.
 
Oda forces him becoming friends with someone from that island.

He only faced Arlong when Nami asked him. He didn't cared about her backstory. He only faced Krieg because it would pay off his debt with Zeff
He's said plenty of times that he does these things to liberate people and help them. Him becoming friends with someone from those places is just more inspiration to kick the villains ass.
 
-> Luffy isn't the next Roger cause he's not a swordsman. since Koby is the next Garp because he has the same fighting style as Garp. Understood. Roger is a role parallel to Luffy, not individual parallel. Individual parallels for Luffy would be Garp/Dragon.
-> Nice he's one of the dozens of good marines that marines like. Got it got it.
-> Yes he can't ever be a parallel to Garp. Oda has already established that character, and you mfs with a Koby fetish keep trying to downplay that character that's been given that Garp 2.0 role since chapter 100... because of Punk Hazard.

GARP-ROGER's dynamic works off them being heated against each other since their youngin days, and constantly trying to outdo the other. Garp even when Roger was in prison was never "buddy buddy" with Roger. He still held a dislike /sourtaste towards Roger, but simply held a amount of respect towards him. They both did their shit on the seas at the sametime. GARP WASN'T FANBOY CHASING ROGER... THE MF HELD DESPISE FOR ROGER, AND VICE-VERSA. Luffy didn't give a single fuck about outdoing Koby nor does he have any rivalry like animosity against him.

Going into the timeskip, Smoker was one of the people Luffy mentioned that he wanted to be able to beat. And he still has not beaten him. Smoker's record against Luffy is whooping 2-0. Luffy has yet to beat this man.

You guys deny Smoker being the clear Garp role set up due to Punk Hazard. But at the sametime are begging Oda to give Koby asspull powerups so he can fullfill your Garp 2.0 fantasies.

I told you already Koby has a paralle, it's not Garp, it's Kuzan. Kuzan looks up to Garp. Koby looks up to Luffy. Kuzan was an apprentice of Garp who threw away his justice. Koby is an apprentice of Garp who will hold on to his justice and be a successful version of Kuzan.


Y'all just don't have the patience for Oda to bring Smoker back. Even though his waited 300+ chapters before bringing Koby back to the series. And 400+ chapters giving him a relevant fight scene. Oh but for Smoker?? Oh noooo nono, Oda forgot about him man... goofy ass fandom.
Koby does parallel Garp though as being the symbol of the Marines for their era.
Koby's relationship with Luffy not paralleling Garp's with Roger doesn't mean he doesn't parallel Garp at all.
Just like Smoker paralleling Garp doesn't mean his character won't shift directions; I'd say that's the whole purpose of his parallel/of his Punk Hazard arc.
Smoker parallels Kuzan as well.
That's the whole issue with this discourse; saying someone's "the" or is "insert name used as a title" of this generation rather than just saying they parallel whomever and then describing the ways in which that's the case.
Smoker clearly isn't meant to parallel Garp insofar as being the archetypical marine representation of justice for the era.
 
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