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This is not Roger's haki feat because you don't know how they fought for 3 days
Gaban and Ray should have easily destroyed the Whitebeard crew but that didn't happen
Well maybe you right and we probably shouldn't use that "friendly fight
" here . But on other hand Roger doesn't have greater haki feats then this one... it's hard to scale him based on feats only. He clashed with Garp, clashed and fought 3 days with WB, overpowered Oden and that's all.:DeepThink:
 
I agree i dont like the shanks/dragon connection idk it seems forced but again oda needs to make money
If he was a young starting artist, then you could make that argument, but Oda is a veteran in this field, with millions of dollars in his pocket. He himself has mentioned that he has more money than he can ever spend! One Piece was much more interesting and had much better writing at the beginning where there was no nepo piece yet, AT THIS POINT IT'S JUST LAZY WRITING. Since WCI arc it was clear that Oda doesn't give a fuck anymore, he's just riding on his own legacy, he's lost the motivation and drive he had 15 years ago.
 
Oda flat out hyped prime Xebec as Roger strongest enemy. Hyped Harald as his peer.

About 40 yo Roger and WB It goes without saying.



1026?
Idk, Oden maybe.

Which is a fairly high level. Not Xebec's, but still.



Oden:

Which part is incomprehensible?
Who said Roger can't split the sky at 40?
Only Oda showed that Roger and Whitebeard's clash in this chapter was much weaker than their clash when they split the sky and I don't think anyone would disagree with that
Luffy repeated a feat that Oden Herc's couldn't repeat, how is he equal to him when he performed better than him?
You're just spamming a Rocks page Luffy and Kaido repeated the exact same feat of Rocks' rival What's the difference?
 

Kizaruber Eats

Oda stop blueballing us on Perona.
Jokes aside, Bepo had so much potential, if Oda cared he could have combined his Sulong form with DF, it would be super cool.
Oh yes, that would have been amazing too! I'd love to see Bepo using some kind of speed based or wind based or even some kind of force/martial art related DF or something. But for something to compliment his Sulong hmmm....maybe some kind of DF that could let him activate Sulong at will somehow or even create a fake moon to trigger it? Kinda like Baby or Vegeta or w/e did in Dragonball GT IIRC?

I've always wanted to see a DF like this especially for an Orange themed Admiral but hell, I'd be glad for Bepo to have it if possible:

🐻 The Kinetic Engine: Dō-ka Dō-ka no Mi (Kinetic-Kinetic Fruit) ⚡

The Ultimate Synergy for Sulong Bepo

The Dō-ka Dō-ka no Mi is a Paramecia-type Devil Fruit that allows the user to absorb, build up, and store energy from movement, acting like a perfect conversion system for kinetic energy (motion) into potential energy (stored force). This effectively turns the user into a living, rechargeable engine for combat.

⚙️ Fruit Type: Paramecia

💥 Power: Kinetic Energy Storage and Release

Core Ability: The Kinetic Engine

The fruit's primary function is Kinetic Stacking. Every move Bepo makes—every dash, jump, block, and strike—is converted into a massive reserve of stored, invisible force.

Sulong Amplification: The Sulong transformation, with its sudden, colossal output of speed, muscle, and Electro, acts as a super-charger for the fruit. Bepo can enter Sulong and immediately stockpile an astronomical amount of energy, making his brief powered state a resource he can use even after it ends.

Named Techniques with Sulong Synergy

1. Kinetic Echo: Polar Force Bomb (Offense)

A devastating technique that delivers an internal blast of stored force, bypassing external durability.

Ability: Bepo strikes an opponent with a physical, Electro-charged Sulong punch. Immediately after the physical impact, he releases the stored potential energy as a powerful, secondary, delayed shockwave.

Effect: The strike is a crushing one-two combo of physical trauma followed by pure concussive force, often causing internal collapse.

2. Friction Dash: Arctic Slipstream (Speed & Mobility)

This ability manipulates friction to enhance Bepo's already incredible Sulong speed and movement.

Effect: By releasing a controlled burst of energy, Bepo nullifies friction and air resistance around him, allowing his Sulong charge to become an instantaneous, silent flash-step that covers vast distances almost instantly. He becomes an untraceable, electrified blur.

3. Kinetic Shield: Glacial Deflection (Defense & Support)

This provides Bepo with an invaluable, instantaneous defense that can protect his crew.

Execution: Bepo releases a controlled, spherical burst of his stored potential energy outward.

Effect: This creates a temporary, invisible Kinetic Shield. Any incoming force (like a bullet or powerful punch) that hits the shield is met with an equal and opposite force, instantly stopping it dead or violently repelling it back at the attacker.

4. Kinetic Discharge: Overclock Reversal (Fatigue Mitigation)

This is the most crucial utility, directly countering Sulong's debilitating weakness: exhaustion.

Ability: By sacrificing a substantial portion of his stored kinetic energy, Bepo can metabolically stabilize his body, effectively repelling the extreme fatigue that accompanies the end of the Sulong transformation. This allows him to recover almost instantly and keep fighting, massively extending his combat longevity.


I'd also love to see Minks using Rokushiki and combining Electro and Sulong together too. Funnily enough when Oda revealed Lunarians manipulating fire and King willing to fight in any way possible and even using slicing shockwavees, I expected him to ironically throw out some flaming kick shockwaves, as Sanji should be doing by now instead sigh lol.
 
I'm starting to wonder that too.

What part of Roger's strongest enemy It isn't clear?
What part about Harald, WB and Roger?

Still discussing about 1026 pre Nika Luffy being better than them Is the stop before 1026 Luffy > Imu lol.
What changed with Luffy's haki after g5?
He just used it more freely
Nothing changes again Luffy repeated Roger's feat
And Roger and Whitebeard's clash in this chapter was weaker than Luffy and Kaido and all the Yonko's clash
 
Oh yes, that would have been amazing too! I'd love to see Bepo using some kind of speed based or wind based or even some kind of force/martial art related DF or something. But for something to compliment his Sulong hmmm....maybe some kind of DF that could let him activate Sulong at will somehow or even create a fake moon to trigger it? Kinda like Baby or Vegeta or w/e did in Dragonball GT IIRC?

I've always wanted to see a DF like this especially for an Orange themed Admiral but hell, I'd be glad for Bepo to have it if possible:

🐻 The Kinetic Engine: Dō-ka Dō-ka no Mi (Kinetic-Kinetic Fruit) ⚡

The Ultimate Synergy for Sulong Bepo

The Dō-ka Dō-ka no Mi is a Paramecia-type Devil Fruit that allows the user to absorb, build up, and store energy from movement, acting like a perfect conversion system for kinetic energy (motion) into potential energy (stored force). This effectively turns the user into a living, rechargeable engine for combat.

⚙️ Fruit Type: Paramecia

💥 Power: Kinetic Energy Storage and Release

Core Ability: The Kinetic Engine

The fruit's primary function is Kinetic Stacking. Every move Bepo makes—every dash, jump, block, and strike—is converted into a massive reserve of stored, invisible force.

Sulong Amplification: The Sulong transformation, with its sudden, colossal output of speed, muscle, and Electro, acts as a super-charger for the fruit. Bepo can enter Sulong and immediately stockpile an astronomical amount of energy, making his brief powered state a resource he can use even after it ends.

Named Techniques with Sulong Synergy

1. Kinetic Echo: Polar Force Bomb (Offense)

A devastating technique that delivers an internal blast of stored force, bypassing external durability.

Ability: Bepo strikes an opponent with a physical, Electro-charged Sulong punch. Immediately after the physical impact, he releases the stored potential energy as a powerful, secondary, delayed shockwave.

Effect: The strike is a crushing one-two combo of physical trauma followed by pure concussive force, often causing internal collapse.

2. Friction Dash: Arctic Slipstream (Speed & Mobility)

This ability manipulates friction to enhance Bepo's already incredible Sulong speed and movement.

Effect: By releasing a controlled burst of energy, Bepo nullifies friction and air resistance around him, allowing his Sulong charge to become an instantaneous, silent flash-step that covers vast distances almost instantly. He becomes an untraceable, electrified blur.

3. Kinetic Shield: Glacial Deflection (Defense & Support)

This provides Bepo with an invaluable, instantaneous defense that can protect his crew.

Execution: Bepo releases a controlled, spherical burst of his stored potential energy outward.

Effect: This creates a temporary, invisible Kinetic Shield. Any incoming force (like a bullet or powerful punch) that hits the shield is met with an equal and opposite force, instantly stopping it dead or violently repelling it back at the attacker.

4. Kinetic Discharge: Overclock Reversal (Fatigue Mitigation)

This is the most crucial utility, directly countering Sulong's debilitating weakness: exhaustion.

Ability: By sacrificing a substantial portion of his stored kinetic energy, Bepo can metabolically stabilize his body, effectively repelling the extreme fatigue that accompanies the end of the Sulong transformation. This allows him to recover almost instantly and keep fighting, massively extending his combat longevity.

I'd also love to see Minks using Rokushiki and combining Electro and Sulong together too. Funnily enough when Oda revealed Lunarians manipulating fire and King willing to fight in any way possible and even using slicing shockwavees, I expected him to ironically throw out some flaming kick shockwaves, as Sanji should be doing by now instead sigh lol.
That would be cool, unfortunately Oda views Law as a support character rather than a player. Considering the fact that he's part of the D clan, and he has shown interest in reaching laugh tale to find out more about his bloodline, I wouldn't be surprised if he asks Luffy to take him to laugh tale since he can't reach there by himself.
 
This seems to be a running theme among the RHM and lower subordinates where the RHM technique endangers other crew members
King, WB, Zoro
Queen, BM/Shiki, Sanji/Nami
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Why was WB fighting and clashing with Roger after running from Garp?
 
Roger and his crew clashed with Rock's crew and the Knights at the same time. This is still a good feat for Roger. Roger had no interest in continuing the fight. We'll have to see what happened when Roger fought Rocks. Did he think Rocks was going to steal his treasures?
 

Kizaruber Eats

Oda stop blueballing us on Perona.
That would be cool, unfortunately Oda views Law as a support character rather than a player. Considering the fact that he's part of the D clan, and he has shown interest in reaching laugh tale to find out more about his bloodline, I wouldn't be surprised if he asks Luffy to take him to laugh tale since he can't reach there by himself.
Yeah that's exactly what I see happening post Blackbeard fight now too. I foolishly believed Kidd, Law and Luffy would have a 3 way race to the One Piece, maybe even pursued by Buggy with Cross Guild, Blackbeard and Shanks for the ultimate battle royale with the Marines and WG right on their tails too, but alas, Oda got our hopes up for nothing with Wano only to brutally crush them out of pure gleeful sadism on his part ofc.

Law is gonna have to reinstate his alliance with Luffy reluctantly and get carried along for the ride all over again, he may as well be a Strawhat by now lmao. I just hope the rest of the crew are still alive and out there, despite him losing the Polar Tang, sigh.
 
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