Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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Yeah but what did Roger really do? Xebec was the one who started everything. Without him and this Imu encounter, Roger probably wouldn’t have even begun searching for the One Piece. The other Yonko were likely inspired by the GV incident too, Big Mom/Kaido was also searching for the poneglyphs later on in their lives. Both she and Kaido also shared the goal of toppling the World Government.

Xebec set everything in motion. Roger can’t surpass him in either character or piracy. Strength-wise, he has like 4 other equals to boot lol. I know for damn sure that Oda will never have Roger beat Xebec, Garp or WB lol. He couldn’t be any clearer with Garp’s portrayal in this flashback. At this point, Roger’s just not that special anymore.
I never thought oda would do roger this bad. Zero moment where he stands above his contemporaries like garp or WB. Oda didn't even allow him to use rookie Kaido as a hype tool :kobeha:
 
Yeah but what did Roger really do? Xebec was the one who started everything. Without him and this Imu encounter, Roger probably wouldn’t have even begun searching for the One Piece. The other Yonko were likely inspired by the GV incident too, Big Mom/Kaido was also searching for the poneglyphs later on in their lives. Both she and Kaido also shared the goal of toppling the World Government.

Xebec set everything in motion. Roger can’t surpass him in either character or piracy. Strength-wise, he has like 4 other equals to boot lol. I know for damn sure that Oda will never have Roger beat Xebec, Garp or WB lol. He couldn’t be any clearer with Garp’s portrayal in this flashback. At this point, Roger’s just not that special anymore.
He found the one piece
And laughed
 
I never thought oda would do roger this bad. Zero moment where he stands above his contemporaries like garp or WB. Oda didn't even allow him to use rookie Kaido as a hype tool :kobeha:
Did y’all really want that though?

I always thought the appeal of someone like Roger is that he had multiple characters on his level

People constantly complain that Luffy has no real rivals in strength near his age but when Oda does it with Roger it’s a bad thing?

You can’t have both
 
Yeah but what did Roger really do? Xebec was the one who started everything. Without him and this Imu encounter, Roger probably wouldn’t have even begun searching for the One Piece. The other Yonko were likely inspired by the GV incident too, Big Mom/Kaido was also searching for the poneglyphs later on in their lives. Both she and Kaido also shared the goal of toppling the World Government.

Xebec set everything in motion. Roger can’t surpass him in either character or piracy. Strength-wise, he has like 4 other equals to boot lol. I know for damn sure that Oda will never have Roger beat Xebec, Garp or WB lol. He couldn’t be any clearer with Garp’s portrayal in this flashback. At this point, Roger’s just not that special anymore.
Back during Oden's flashback people excused Roger being matched by fruitless WB due to him being "sick" ,even though the dialogue between them suggested it had no real impact on hi strenght at that point of time. Now they excuse him and Garp being portrayed as dead equals by Roger still having much growth in the future (a 39 yo man that had aCOC for years and decades of piracy under her belt btw)
This is getting ridiculous ngl.
I said a few times already but since Joyboy became Luffy "true" parallel, Oda doesn't care that much about making Roger special anymore. He's just a very strong peak top tier
 
Did y’all really want that though?

I always thought the appeal of someone like Roger is that he had multiple characters on his level

People constantly complain that Luffy has no real rivals in strength near his age but when Oda does it with Roger it’s a bad thing?

You can’t have both
As much as I make fun of the retarded haki lightning bros and haki suprass all Dumbo's parroters I think it's reasonable to expect that dodger showed something amazing in Gv for making Kaido so impressed
Blud didn't do anything, he as just there
 
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