Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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@Tyki_Mikk is like a clueless child who thinks whatever looks the flashiest is automatically stronger. And now that this isn’t happening for the characters he used to put all his faith in — since Garp and Roger didn’t do anything actually impressive in terms of DC feats — he’s clearly coping. He demands DC and flashy feats from Oden, but stays quiet about Roger not having any. LMAO.😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

Let me rub some more salt in your wound, man: even the KKG in Dressrosa used to finish off Doffy is more impressive in DC than Garp and Roger’s so-called “final attacks.”

Flame Dragon Torch, Hakai, Bajrang Gun, Law’s final attack — my god, these are so far above that it’s not even a comparison. It’s actually disrespectful to even compare them to that pathetic G3 from Garp. 😭 😭
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Make it make sense, you window licker. No one said Chinjao is Garp's tier or the vice-versa. By training himself, Garp improved his CoA, and hence got stronger ages after GV, which means they continued to grow stronger. Having CoC doesn't mean the other power ups stop counting unless you think getting a black blade or learning internal destruction Haki won't make Zoro stronger just because he already has CoC coating.
Its very simple garp was holding back and grew his physical strength like he says this chapter not his haki.
His practicing on mountians is probably akin to his battleship bag.
Once you reach a level of physical strength the increases are tiny
Zoro aint gonna be able to punch islands apart if he keeps lifting weights no haki.
 
he had gura decades before that lol..

oda has never said they don't. Cause he doesn't have to.
He has the Gura gura for decades but when did he reach the capacity to use it to “end the world”

again, you’re assuming instantly eating the fruit gives you the max capacity to use the fruit off rip. You think both Whitebeard and Teach both were instantaneously able to end the world after eating the fruit.

why? Why is the Gura Gura the first fruit and only fruit in the story that doesn’t require practice and mastery over years and years like every other fruit?

Teach as able to tilt the island after getting the fruit. Okay. That’s not the whole world. The power difference between tilting one island and THE ENTIRE WORLD is astronomical in scale.


anyway the reason WSS is not like WSM is because Oda has never described them in similar ways ever in the series. You are assuming they are similar when there is no indication they are
 
This is fine for me anyway tbh

I’ve always said Luffy’s path to becoming the Pirate King is 10x harder than Roger’s

Roger was slower because he was the first to do it and didn’t know shit + couldn’t translate the poneglyphs

Besides the Zou poneglyph Luffy had to sneak into a Yonko’s territory for 1, wage war against 2 Yonko for the other, and has to play Where’s Waldo to find the last one with multiple top crews doing the same thing


:handsup:
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
He was called that by the WG/newspaper/big news Morgan

There was no pirate meetings like in pirates of the Caribbean or anything where pirates determine that
Same with naming the one piece, both in the same chapter


The reality is so far oda didn't potray that every pirate by default wants the one piece and that makes you the greatest


Infact this is proven in this flashback, xebec is seen as greater pirate than dodger

Xebec did what ? Usual pirate shit and his world dominating plan

Roger did what he do what a one piece seeker would do, exploring around

And despite both not achieving their goal
It’s not that complicated it’s a shonen and a classic one

Roger was introduced to us as the Pirate King, as the one who started the story, the one who found the One piece (the title of the story)

and he is the goal of the MC (or the second main goal wherever)

Luffy is yelling « I want to be Pirate King » every time he can and he wants to find the ultimate treasure the One Piece and be the freest pirate on the sea

Roger is on top, no doubt about that

And yeah nobody elected Roger but : Garp glazed Roger, WB glazed Roger, Shiki glazed Roger, Kaido glazed Roger, the whole WG glazed Roger giving him that worldwide execution and wanting to eradicate his offsprings etc etc

Even Xebec respected Roger

Roger is that guy

it is completely Oda fault that Roger character execution is quite bad and we have that kind of debate but the truth is Roger is written to be that guy, even if the writinh is bad
 
Do people genuinely think the attack Garp used at the end wouldn't fold Chinjao?
It's obvious he wanted to humiliate Chinjao by overpowering his main pride (his drill head AP) with a single punch.
Ofc it comes from the same hypocritical people who put Garp closer to YC level for struggling against Chinjao but turn a blind eye to Luffy using his strongest mode vs Lucci and got pushed away in a hardening clash. All of a sudden, it's "GoDfY jUsT uSeD bAsIC hArDEniNg" but nah, Garp was going totally all out on Chinjao, it has to be lol
 
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