Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1182: ZAZA
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The only thing i'm really worried about is.I'm pretty sure there's going to be a human hun in wano, which I really don't wanna see.
Wano's own problems came from the Kurozumi human hunt twisting Orochi from a shrimpy coward into a vengeful monster.
The focus on rabbits that Mihawk and G9d valley had, along with Carrot's presence scares me, and since apoo leaked all the information about wano to the world government, celestial dragons know who Hiyori is.
So I think the celestial dragons are gonna send Cipher Pol to try to kidnap Hiyori. But eventually, it's gonna devolve into a human hunt. Yamato, too.
I'm wondering if Imu is gonna turn the rest of the celestial dragons into demons to make an army. I think they're gonna have some use in this plot, and it's gonna be something diabolical that robs him of their humanity even further but makes him even more inhumane.
Wano is an ancient enemy of the world government, they want to exterminate Wano like the Davys.
so I think that even though cross guild and the blackbeard pirates are gonna show up, they're actually gonna end up helping wano. Buggy will want to defend owen's homeland and I think he's gonna have his awakening there. Buggy, having his awakening in the same place as luffy for fighting for his nakama for the first time in a while and really putting his life on the line is what's going to make him awake.And I think. He's probably the clown god. For god of laughter. God of Fools. Something cool.
Blackbeard is going to be absolutely disgusted by this human hunt. And we'll fight for oden, his Nakama, as well.
Mihawk seems to have some connection to human hunts too, so I think he'll be an interesting part of this. Something tells me crocodile will also be disgusted by this, which is hypocritical but it's crocodile so.
Lufiy will obviously be completely disgusted oswald shanks.
This human hunt is probably gonna be like god valley and actually unite a bunch of different pirates with completely different goals to fight together against the world government.While a few forces fight for pluton at the same time.
I need to make a thread about which characters can um possibly operate pluton. My dark horse candidate is Tama. I think that would be really funny. Unless Pluton ate a Zoan.
I believe pluton needs both human size and giant size individuals to operate and was a collaboration between human and giant shiprights.
We should see Cipher Pol back here too.
Since Sulong is really the closest thing this series has to super saiyan I honestly believe that super Sulong is happening sometime soon.
Due to the Rabbit and Mochi moon myth. I believe carrot and Katakuri are gonna do something together in this arc. Maybe he'll make a fake moon out of mochi. I think Pedro's ghost is gonna show up and act four, and I also think that Katakuri is gonna bring Pedro's corpse to be buried to the Minks since he's an honorable man. Being able to bury pedro I think will be able to give Carrot peace.
Carrot should learn Ryuo from the Samurai, and other techniques from Yamato and the Minks. I still hope Stussy is her Mom and teaches Carrot Rabbit Rokushiki.
I hope Carrot gets a Fruit, too. I hope we get back to her in wano soon. I really want to see teach fight the world government
Wano's own problems came from the Kurozumi human hunt twisting Orochi from a shrimpy coward into a vengeful monster.
The focus on rabbits that Mihawk and G9d valley had, along with Carrot's presence scares me, and since apoo leaked all the information about wano to the world government, celestial dragons know who Hiyori is.
So I think the celestial dragons are gonna send Cipher Pol to try to kidnap Hiyori. But eventually, it's gonna devolve into a human hunt. Yamato, too.
I'm wondering if Imu is gonna turn the rest of the celestial dragons into demons to make an army. I think they're gonna have some use in this plot, and it's gonna be something diabolical that robs him of their humanity even further but makes him even more inhumane.
Wano is an ancient enemy of the world government, they want to exterminate Wano like the Davys.
so I think that even though cross guild and the blackbeard pirates are gonna show up, they're actually gonna end up helping wano. Buggy will want to defend owen's homeland and I think he's gonna have his awakening there. Buggy, having his awakening in the same place as luffy for fighting for his nakama for the first time in a while and really putting his life on the line is what's going to make him awake.And I think. He's probably the clown god. For god of laughter. God of Fools. Something cool.
Blackbeard is going to be absolutely disgusted by this human hunt. And we'll fight for oden, his Nakama, as well.
Mihawk seems to have some connection to human hunts too, so I think he'll be an interesting part of this. Something tells me crocodile will also be disgusted by this, which is hypocritical but it's crocodile so.
Lufiy will obviously be completely disgusted oswald shanks.
This human hunt is probably gonna be like god valley and actually unite a bunch of different pirates with completely different goals to fight together against the world government.While a few forces fight for pluton at the same time.
I need to make a thread about which characters can um possibly operate pluton. My dark horse candidate is Tama. I think that would be really funny. Unless Pluton ate a Zoan.
I believe pluton needs both human size and giant size individuals to operate and was a collaboration between human and giant shiprights.
We should see Cipher Pol back here too.
Since Sulong is really the closest thing this series has to super saiyan I honestly believe that super Sulong is happening sometime soon.
Due to the Rabbit and Mochi moon myth. I believe carrot and Katakuri are gonna do something together in this arc. Maybe he'll make a fake moon out of mochi. I think Pedro's ghost is gonna show up and act four, and I also think that Katakuri is gonna bring Pedro's corpse to be buried to the Minks since he's an honorable man. Being able to bury pedro I think will be able to give Carrot peace.
Carrot should learn Ryuo from the Samurai, and other techniques from Yamato and the Minks. I still hope Stussy is her Mom and teaches Carrot Rabbit Rokushiki.
I hope Carrot gets a Fruit, too. I hope we get back to her in wano soon. I really want to see teach fight the world government
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>Mere minutes after getting hit by Imu's ACoC + Omen + Maki kick
>Opponent was in disbelief that he's still alive then kicked him while he was down
>1% HP
>Did not get a Giant Uber to the battlefield and had to sky walk there himself
>Awakened Mythical Zoan
>Just got healed to full HP
>Made his strongest fear and has control of it, this also happens to be a woman
>Insanely buffed by Imu
>Opponent was in disbelief that he's still alive then kicked him while he was down
>1% HP
>Did not get a Giant Uber to the battlefield and had to sky walk there himself
>Awakened Mythical Zoan
>Just got healed to full HP
>Made his strongest fear and has control of it, this also happens to be a woman
>Insanely buffed by Imu
>Mere minutes after getting hit by Imu's ACoC + Omen + Maki kick
>Opponent was in disbelief that he's still alive then kicked him while he was down
>1% HP
>Did not get a Giant Uber to the battlefield and had to sky walk there himself
>Awakened Mythical Zoan
>Just got healed to full HP
>Made his strongest fear and has control of it, this also happens to be a woman
>Insanely buffed by Imu
>Opponent was in disbelief that he's still alive then kicked him while he was down
>1% HP
>Did not get a Giant Uber to the battlefield and had to sky walk there himself
>Awakened Mythical Zoan
>Just got healed to full HP
>Made his strongest fear and has control of it, this also happens to be a woman
>Insanely buffed by Imu
What we be reading
Kaido AND Big Meme were scared shitless of Rooftop Zoro who couldn't even use CoC and Imu tail diffed one of his strongest techniques without batting an eye lol.
Tf they're gonna do? Midd took Big Meme's full sword swing whilst taking damage from Hawkins simultaneously and he was still smiling at her. She got bullied by Midd and Law's awakening to the point she sacrificed a part of her lifespan to get stronger lol.
Shanks got manhandled by Imu's slave, so tf are his fanboys expecting, Shanks jumping between several tiers to be the current gen god tier if he was really capable to beat Loki?
Only Blackbeard is relevant in this conversation but he's hardly the average emperor like these guys.
Tf they're gonna do? Midd took Big Meme's full sword swing whilst taking damage from Hawkins simultaneously and he was still smiling at her. She got bullied by Midd and Law's awakening to the point she sacrificed a part of her lifespan to get stronger lol.
Shanks got manhandled by Imu's slave, so tf are his fanboys expecting, Shanks jumping between several tiers to be the current gen god tier if he was really capable to beat Loki?
Only Blackbeard is relevant in this conversation but he's hardly the average emperor like these guys.
Bro got negged by a attack that cant hurt Sanji beside causing pain
He is slower than fucking goldberg bro forgot his "clear lance"
Got put in the ICU and got surgically 3 bullets removed from him
Meanwhile, a damaged Sanji is flying like a jet solo
Killingham, an immortal being with god-like regen + now a boost hypes sanjis Durability
+ He was conscious after the imu attack and was only knocked out for 2 minutes by an additional cheapshot by Killingham with Omen
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The thing is, Zoro's fight, as interesting as it is, doesn't really suit him. In fact, this whole setting, his Japanese wandering swordsman persona (and here he can't walk alone because Elbaph is the best place to get lost), katanas, way of the sword philosophy etc, but in a Nordic world and against nobles with that classic french aesthetics,to me, he seems out of place. Especially using those awful glasses in his costume. This is definitely not a good arc for Zoro. And this fight is going to be ugly, cause Zoro's fighting style and Super Sommers' fighting style are very different.
On the cover page, Fujitora's eating some Udon prepared by a fox and a tanuki. He makes it look delicious! I'm a little jealous! I'm sure there's some pun here I'm missing, but I don't know what it is. What could this cover page be hinting at?! Could this hint that Fujitora's doing something with the Udon Prison in Wano?! Probably not! But, who knows!
In Oda's author's notes, Oda talks about wanting to go on a big food tour with some friends, once One Piece ends. Oda's got the ending on his mind...just saying.
Loki can't track Imu well when he's in his huge dragon form. Which...kind of makes sense. Imu's relatively the size of a mouse, compared to Loki in his Nidhogg form.
And Imu calls Nidhogg a traitor! Which...is interesting. It sounds like Nidhogg betrayed Imu, which I wouldn't think is possible if this happened during the Second World, since the Nidhogg Fruit's been dormant for so long. But, maybe I'm just wrong about that? Or maybe Imu's talking about a different betrayal. Imu IS smiling as he says it, which he really shouldn't if Nidhogg betrayed Imu personally. Maybe...Nidhogg betrayed the OTHER dragons, in order to side with the humans during the First World? Hmm...something to think about.
"Lightning is born from colliding ice" Huh...I guess I didn't think about that. That IS technically true. Though, you don't really see that many thunderstorms when it's snowing out.
And we get confirmation on what's going on with Ragnir. Ragnir IS the Hammer that ate the Mythical Ratatoskr Fruit. So, it IS a Devil Fruit and not something else going on. Which likely means...Devil Fruits DID exist back during the First World. Interesting. The Chapter 1138 Mural made it sound like Devil Fruits were a Second World invention. But, this makes it sound like it's not.
Also, Imu has met Ragnir before. Usually Imu calls people by their Fruit, like with "Nidhogg" or "Nika". But, Imu uses "Ragnir" here, instead of "Ratatoskr". So, I feel like Imu has personally met Ragnir before, having visited Elbaph before in the past. It sounds like this was back when Ragnir was still guarding the Fruit. So, again, if this was during the Second World, and Imu was hanging around with Joyboy at the time, this would make some sense.
"Tzitzimtl Nova Eclipse"-Huh...Imu's referencing Aztec Star-Demons! Kind of hinting at extraterrestrial or outer space origins, perhaps? We already know Lunarians have ties to the Moon, so it kind of makes sense. They war against the sun, which tracks. But, they're also protectors of women and the progenitors of mankind. So...kind of a dual nature, there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzitzimitl
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Tzitzimitl
Lilith's taking care of Bonney! That's kind of cute! Especially given the original Vegapunk's connection to Bonney and Kuma. And Lilith is slowly putting a few pieces together. I wonder what conclusion she'll end up coming to?
Sanji's not taking his curb stomping lying down. Seems like he's got a score to settle with Killingham. "It's the land of Giant Beauties"! You go, Sanji! You go and protect those giant...personalities.
Oh, and we find out where Biblo went with the books! He just used the back door to go underground, I guess. Weird that this library has a underground chamber but...sure? I guess Biblo is more of a burrowing owl? And yeah...Saul's starting to suspect something's up with Biblo. I guess Biblo could be ANOTHER animal companion to someone from history. Like Zunesha was to Joyboy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrowing_owl
Summers...excuse me...SUPER Summers has stolen a Giant ship! The cad! I'm not sure if we've seen this one before or not. It's not the New Giant Warrior Pirate's ship, since that has a actual skull for the figurehead.
Chopper fixed Gerd's fingers! That's good! But, she won't heal for months! And that's bad! And Road offers Gerd his fingers if she needs them, that's...phrasing Road! But, Gerd likes that Road tried to save his brother...so he's got a chance! He's wearing her DOWN!
The black flames turned into steel bullets that Zoro needed to dig out of himself...that's kind of interesting. More hints that something's going on with metal in this world.
"Imu's body isn't meant to be out in this world". So they KNOW they're on a time limit.
Killiingham has summoned the thing HE'S the most scared of...another GOD! Or goddess in this case. Zaza, the Goddess of Rain! (She is "Lovely to Look At") Specifically "Rain" and no mention of the "Sea". So, this seems to hint that they are probably separate entities. Which means, there probably ARE more than just the 4 main Skypian Gods we know about. Named after another sound effect, just like "Nika" for laughter, and all the various Devil Fruits, so there's some connection there. Also, between Gunko being the most afraid of the Sun God and Killingham being most afraid of the Rain Goddess, it seems like there's a pattern here.
"For those of us born above the clouds, the idea of water falling from the sky is terrifying!" Huh...fair point, actually. I guess the Celestial Dragons have mostly never even seen rain? Interesting world-building, really. Never thought about that, before.
And Zoro's letting Sanji deal with this Rain Goddess! Which...yeah, this isn't going to go well for Sanji, not that he could know that. He probably can't kick a literal Dream-Woman. So, I guess Sanji's going to have to get creative to re-save the Elbaph kids, again! I guess as long as he focuses on Killingham, he'll probably be fine. Hmm...how long until Sanji tries to hit on the Giant, Wet Goddess? Can Sanji seduce a literal nightmare?
There's a break next week, which is annoying after JUST getting back from the Golden Week break, but oh well. Next time...maybe Luffy will finally join the fight? Well...at this point, I think we'll likely see more side fights with Super Sommers and Killingham. But, who knows? Maybe Biblo will show us his true strength?! Anything can happen in Elbaph!
In Oda's author's notes, Oda talks about wanting to go on a big food tour with some friends, once One Piece ends. Oda's got the ending on his mind...just saying.
Loki can't track Imu well when he's in his huge dragon form. Which...kind of makes sense. Imu's relatively the size of a mouse, compared to Loki in his Nidhogg form.
And Imu calls Nidhogg a traitor! Which...is interesting. It sounds like Nidhogg betrayed Imu, which I wouldn't think is possible if this happened during the Second World, since the Nidhogg Fruit's been dormant for so long. But, maybe I'm just wrong about that? Or maybe Imu's talking about a different betrayal. Imu IS smiling as he says it, which he really shouldn't if Nidhogg betrayed Imu personally. Maybe...Nidhogg betrayed the OTHER dragons, in order to side with the humans during the First World? Hmm...something to think about.
"Lightning is born from colliding ice" Huh...I guess I didn't think about that. That IS technically true. Though, you don't really see that many thunderstorms when it's snowing out.
And we get confirmation on what's going on with Ragnir. Ragnir IS the Hammer that ate the Mythical Ratatoskr Fruit. So, it IS a Devil Fruit and not something else going on. Which likely means...Devil Fruits DID exist back during the First World. Interesting. The Chapter 1138 Mural made it sound like Devil Fruits were a Second World invention. But, this makes it sound like it's not.
Also, Imu has met Ragnir before. Usually Imu calls people by their Fruit, like with "Nidhogg" or "Nika". But, Imu uses "Ragnir" here, instead of "Ratatoskr". So, I feel like Imu has personally met Ragnir before, having visited Elbaph before in the past. It sounds like this was back when Ragnir was still guarding the Fruit. So, again, if this was during the Second World, and Imu was hanging around with Joyboy at the time, this would make some sense.
"Tzitzimtl Nova Eclipse"-Huh...Imu's referencing Aztec Star-Demons! Kind of hinting at extraterrestrial or outer space origins, perhaps? We already know Lunarians have ties to the Moon, so it kind of makes sense. They war against the sun, which tracks. But, they're also protectors of women and the progenitors of mankind. So...kind of a dual nature, there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzitzimitl
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Tzitzimitl
Lilith's taking care of Bonney! That's kind of cute! Especially given the original Vegapunk's connection to Bonney and Kuma. And Lilith is slowly putting a few pieces together. I wonder what conclusion she'll end up coming to?
Sanji's not taking his curb stomping lying down. Seems like he's got a score to settle with Killingham. "It's the land of Giant Beauties"! You go, Sanji! You go and protect those giant...personalities.
Oh, and we find out where Biblo went with the books! He just used the back door to go underground, I guess. Weird that this library has a underground chamber but...sure? I guess Biblo is more of a burrowing owl? And yeah...Saul's starting to suspect something's up with Biblo. I guess Biblo could be ANOTHER animal companion to someone from history. Like Zunesha was to Joyboy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrowing_owl
Summers...excuse me...SUPER Summers has stolen a Giant ship! The cad! I'm not sure if we've seen this one before or not. It's not the New Giant Warrior Pirate's ship, since that has a actual skull for the figurehead.
Chopper fixed Gerd's fingers! That's good! But, she won't heal for months! And that's bad! And Road offers Gerd his fingers if she needs them, that's...phrasing Road! But, Gerd likes that Road tried to save his brother...so he's got a chance! He's wearing her DOWN!
The black flames turned into steel bullets that Zoro needed to dig out of himself...that's kind of interesting. More hints that something's going on with metal in this world.
"Imu's body isn't meant to be out in this world". So they KNOW they're on a time limit.
Killiingham has summoned the thing HE'S the most scared of...another GOD! Or goddess in this case. Zaza, the Goddess of Rain! (She is "Lovely to Look At") Specifically "Rain" and no mention of the "Sea". So, this seems to hint that they are probably separate entities. Which means, there probably ARE more than just the 4 main Skypian Gods we know about. Named after another sound effect, just like "Nika" for laughter, and all the various Devil Fruits, so there's some connection there. Also, between Gunko being the most afraid of the Sun God and Killingham being most afraid of the Rain Goddess, it seems like there's a pattern here.
"For those of us born above the clouds, the idea of water falling from the sky is terrifying!" Huh...fair point, actually. I guess the Celestial Dragons have mostly never even seen rain? Interesting world-building, really. Never thought about that, before.
And Zoro's letting Sanji deal with this Rain Goddess! Which...yeah, this isn't going to go well for Sanji, not that he could know that. He probably can't kick a literal Dream-Woman. So, I guess Sanji's going to have to get creative to re-save the Elbaph kids, again! I guess as long as he focuses on Killingham, he'll probably be fine. Hmm...how long until Sanji tries to hit on the Giant, Wet Goddess? Can Sanji seduce a literal nightmare?
There's a break next week, which is annoying after JUST getting back from the Golden Week break, but oh well. Next time...maybe Luffy will finally join the fight? Well...at this point, I think we'll likely see more side fights with Super Sommers and Killingham. But, who knows? Maybe Biblo will show us his true strength?! Anything can happen in Elbaph!
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