Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1191: Loki Is Here

[Mr. Anderson]

Even trash who got knocked out by G2 like hazruddin doing better job against imu than Luffy. How low the "yonko" luffy has fallen. He was better before becoming yonko. Luffy can hit with tofu and die

Harujin clearly got stronger since that encounter. As a matter of fact, quite literally in that same arc he became stronger. He punched 10,000 tons miles into the air with a broken arm. 10,000 tons is the equivilant of the Eiffel Tower lol.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Gaban be like

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Jokes aside, it's disappointing that it turns out he wasn't trying to galvanize Luffy, he really did just give up hopes in him. Telling Hajrudin that he can't win is also weird because he's never gonna be able to and couldn't care less. Trying to regroup would mean the risk of death remains in addition to losing Elbaf and all the kids.

 

[Moewu]

Even LUFFY is surprised that he's still alive after all the stabbings he received from Imu over the last few chapters! Yeah, it does feel like the implication is supposed to be that Luffy is slowly tapping into more of the full potential of the Nika Fruit. Your mileage may vary on how you feel about that. But, he says he CAN'T change back to normal before he's fully healed, or else he'll die, so there is a slight cost to this "regeneration" power.

"Well, his true nature seems to be a big secret." Hmm...so even Scopper doesn't fully understand what Imu is. Interesting. Oda's definitely setting something up, here.

Heh...Imu calling Roger's old crew "youths" back on God Valley kind of hits home how Imu probably sees MOST people, I guess.

Meanwhile, Robin and Saul and Chopper are stopping to have a pleasant chat with Biblo. What does the owl say? (Hoot-hoot-hoot-hoot-hoota-hoot! /*What does the fox say?*) Too bad we don't find out what Biblo's trying to tell them this chapter. Oda's really dragging this out. I'm going to guess that....there's another secret 3000 year old lab inside this tree, right around here. Biblo might want them to activate something that could be inside this hollow-ish tree.

Also, Imu gets a new form! More horns, bigger arms, more eye-rings. Also, the 3 Skulls that were around his legs have now moved up to his chest. I wonder if the 3 Skulls actually hint at what "power level" he's tapping into? Maybe at full power, the 3 Skulls would float above his head? I'm...not exactly sure what we would call this? Is this a Zoan Hybrid Form? Or is this a Full Animal Form for Imu's Devil's Fruit? Or is this something else entirely? I guess this COULD be something like Luffy's Gears or Chopper's Rumble Ball Forms. We don't get a caption-box explaining it, so I guess Oda's keeping it a secret for now. But, it could pass for Imu's version of Gear 4 or Arm Point.

"Not that I have the arms to applaud you..." Heh...that's the spirit, Scopper! Find the humor in the situation! Don't let a little arm-loss get you down!

Scopper REALLY wants Luffy to run away, but he's not having that, throwing a bit of a fit about even the suggestion. And I tend to think that's not how this ends. It's just not usually the Strawhat's style. But...there IS a first time for everything. We'll see.

And who swoops in to save the day but...HAJRUDIN?! Okay, I didn't have THAT on my bingo card! Hajrudin taking a swing at the King of the World all by himself. Go figure. Didn't think he had it in him. And Imu just seems REALLY susceptible to punches.

Loki's back on his feet, and Luffy forces himself back up, too. Just in time for Luffy, Loki, and Hajrudin to team up for one more Three Generals Gokoku Sovereignty! Weird that they're copying the attack that Gerd, Goldberg, and Road used before. But, it IS still pretty cool that they're working together! I doubt it's going to be effective enough, though. I feel like Zoro and Sanji still have more to do with their fights. Loki still needs to bust out his Hybrid Form. And it feels like Oda's setting something more up for Luffy, too. So, we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if we see another, similar scene of this again. A "Daikoku Sovereignty" or something like that.

And...there's another break next week. Ah, jeez! It feels like these breaks are getting more frequent. I hope Oda's doing okay.

Most intrigued by the Biblo / Chopper talk.

Btw, did you see the awesome color spread for this chapter? I almost missed it, because for some reason tcb/ didn't include it.

 

[OykotsTreasure]

Btw, did you see the awesome color spread for this chapter? I almost missed it, because for some reason tcb/ didn't include it.

Eventually, yeah. I only heard that there WAS a color spread after the fact. It's weird when TCB leaves that stuff out, but I guess they're kind in a rush to beat other scanlators to releasing the chapter. What few there are left nowadays are still pretty competitive against each other, I guess.

Everyone in afros! Kind of feels like more foreshadowing for Luffy sharing his Nika powers with everyone, but we'll have to see about that.

 

[JEK892]

Gaban be like

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Jokes aside, it's disappointing that it turns out he wasn't trying to galvanize Luffy, he really did just give up hopes in him. Telling Hajrudin that he can't win is also weird because he's never gonna be able to and couldn't care less. Trying to regroup would mean the risk of death remains in addition to losing Elbaf and all the kids.

I mean, he IS trying to galvanise Luffy. He just doesn't think he can win THIS fight. He straight up told Imu the reason he stepped in to save Luffy is because he believes he is the one that Roger was waiting for, and that Imu's actions confirmed that for him. Thus why he doesn't want Luffy to die pointlessly right now in a fight he currently has no chance of winning. Because he believes he CAN win at some point, but not if he dies now.

That said, yeah, not beating Imu here means Elbaf falls. Or at least, it should. So I'm not really sure what Gaban is intending on tbat front, or if he has just written the whole island off as a lost cause and is just hoping the non combatants/ as many other prople as possible manage to evacuate (though expecting Hajrudin to be willing to leave is crazy on his part; Hajrudin will happily die for his country and its people,, fear of death or failure isn't close to enough to stop him from standing his ground)?

At the very least HE is clearly prepared to die fighting, so maybe he has genuinely lost hope of winning today and is just trying to set up a future victory while doing his best.......even if he thinks its futile.

 

[Fn Lucci]

I mean, he IS trying to galvanise Luffy. He just doesn't think he can win THIS fight. He straight up told Imu the reason he stepped in to save Luffy is because he believes he is the one that Roger was waiting for, and that Imu's actions confirmed that for him. Thus why he doesn't want Luffy to die pointlessly right now in a fight he currently has no chance of winning. Because he believes he CAN win at some point, but not if he dies now.

That said, yeah, not beating Imu here means Elbaf falls. Or at least, it should. So I'm not really sure what Gaban is intending on tbat front, or if he has just written the whole island off as a lost cause and is just hoping the non combatants/ as many other prople as possible manage to evacuate (though expecting Hajrudin to be willing to leave is crazy on his part; Hajrudin will happily die for his country and its people,, fear of death or failure isn't close to enough to stop him from standing his ground)?

At the very least HE is clearly prepared to die fighting, so maybe he has genuinely lost hope of winning today and is just trying to set up a future victory while doing his best.......even if he thinks its futile.

Read the dialogue again. He's disappointed, thinks Luffy not only should run but would run. It's in line with telling Hajrudin to run when we know that as weak as he might be, he absolutely won't in this situation. But more egregious, considering the pirate era he comes from and the caliber of men he knew, and what Luffy supposedly represents.

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