I just revisited the panel, the clash didn't show the sky. It was a panel before Kaido enters the palace. but I am still firmly believing that Kaido was at his prime during the time they faught.
I already expect Kaido to be 63 or 62 now
So, back then would be his prime age. Like when we saw WB in his old days
Kaido calls WB an old man and Big Mom an old hag. Big Mom was 30 during Rocks, Kaido was an apprentice and apprentices in this series have at max 12 to 14. So no he isn't in his 60s.
It makes sense now why Kaido prepared himself this much to face Oden, with the spy, and the army. He already knew Oden's strength from an earlier encounter
Yeah he kinda know that Oden would be a bog trouble if he also team up with Hyo. Oda portrayal is more clean, Kaido and Oden are on similar lvl but wano behind Oden would be to much for Kaido and he know this back then. And know we know why people still respect him,it was because he saved their lifes back then. In Oden case I can at least understand his choice here but he should really prepar himself as Kaido did with a b plan. I would try out to call Whitebeard and his crew for help during the 5 years, where the moment if Kaido breaks his deal. Then Oden would kill him off with Whitebeard. Im mean it didn't even need to be Whitebeard, teaming up with Hyo and the daimyos and making a plan to take out Kaido if he break the plan,that would be already enough. We know even after Oden death,Kaido need 2 years together with his crew to take out the Daiymos and Samurai of Wano, no way for him to having a chance to beat Oden together with all Daiymos. It is kinda sad that Oden didn't make a plan b,but at least the reason is understable for me,Oden really didn't have any choice back then.
Kaido was not 5 years old in Rox. The silhouette shown during the Rox showed that Kaido was "Grown up". At the VERY LEAST, I would say he was 18. AT THE VERY LEAST. NO WAY below that. The right age for that body mass is probably 22 or 25. But let's assume the WORST and make it 18.
This was 41 years ago. Oden's war with Kaido happened 20 years ago. so 21 + 18 = 39 years old
If that is NOT Prime age, then people are fucking fooling themselves.
And I know some people will say "Oh no, now he's much stronger"
and when Luffy defeats him, the same people will say "well, Kaido got older, he's in his 60s, so he lost his strength.
Oden missed Kaido's prime
And Luffy missed Kaido's prime
Like I said, these are just excuses. Plain and simple.
Kaido calls WB an old man and Big Mom an old hag. Big Mom was 30 during Rocks, Kaido was an apprentice and apprentices in this series have at max 12 to 14. So no he isn't in his 60s.
I would KILL MY SELF if he was 12 or 14
Just because you call someone "old hag" doesn't mean you are young dude.
It's what any old dude calls an old woman with. They usually diss each other like that
At the VERY LEAST, he was 18 based on the silhouette. he was fucking grown up. You guys need to realize that and stop your headcannon just to save face for Kaido even at the cost of what was shown
see the people blindfolded
he prob used those to buy time.
5 yrs later, wouldnt exactly seem like the old hag posing as momonosuke had nothing to do with him.
Kaido and Orochi don't have zero honor i understand that and already hate them, i really don't like flashbacks lol.
just wish Oda will just end it and go back to the current time.
and it seems my wish that Shinobu is the traitor will not come true , damn
Yeah he kinda know that Oden would be a bog trouble if he also team up with Hyo. Oda portrayal is more clean, Kaido and Oden are on similar lvl but wano behind Oden would be to much for Kaido and he know this back then. And know we know why people still respect him,it was because he saved their lifes back then. In Oden case I can at least understand his choice here but he should really prepar himself as Kaido did with a b plan. I would try out to call Whitebeard and his crew for help during the 5 years, where the moment if Kaido breaks his deal. Then Oden would kill him off with Whitebeard. Im mean it didn't even need to be Whitebeard, teaming up with Hyo and the daimyos and making a plan to take out Kaido if he break the plan,that would be already enough. We know even after Oden death,Kaido need 2 years together with his crew to take out the Daiymos and Samurai of Wano, no way for him to having a chance to beat Oden together with all Daiymos. It is kinda sad that Oden didn't make a plan b,but at least the reason is understable for me,Oden really didn't have any choice back then.
True, but it seems Oden wasn't going all out at that point, because in the encounter 5years later, the dialogue says Oden even surpassed Kaido's imagination. It's just that from what he saw from Oden, he knew he'd be a terrible threat. I like the little detail Oda added in their clash though(the conqueror haki clash) which was kinda lacking in the final encounter
True, but it seems Oden wasn't going all out at that point, because in the encounter 5years later, the dialogue says Oden even surpassed Kaido's imagination. It's just that from what he saw from Oden, he knew he'd be a terrible threat. I like the little detail Oda added in their clash though(the conqueror haki clash) which was kinda lacking in the final encounter
It make me little shock to see Kaido beeing almost the same as Orochi. When I see Kaido firsttime and also with Big mom, I though he isn't the guy who use cheap tricks, he beeing someone who search extrem battles with equal people,yet he was really poor against Oden. It give me the vibe that Kaido always search weaker character which he can one shot but using cheap and dirty tricks against stronger enemies. Never though Kaido character would almost the same as Orochi.
I prefar more know for Team Luffy, beat that trash ass out of Wano!!!
True, but it seems Oden wasn't going all out at that point, because in the encounter 5years later, the dialogue says Oden even surpassed Kaido's imagination. It's just that from what he saw from Oden, he knew he'd be a terrible threat. I like the little detail Oda added in their clash though(the conqueror haki clash) which was kinda lacking in the final encounter
Be honest, I even think that Oden didn't go all out in his last battle against Kaido. I think he just use basic advanced Haki air slash and don't use his strongest attacks. Overall I can see all out Oden would easily even match out Hybird Kaido.
If you guys think Kaido here 41 years ago in Rox is (12 - 14) years old. Then you guys are either having bad eyes. OR, your damage control is making you say the most outrageous fantasies just to make Kaido be very young to never admit that Kaido was at his prime against Oden.
This was AT LEAST 18 years old grown up man. AT LEAST, THE MINIMUM. Normal age would be fucking 22 - 25. And I'm still giving the benefit of the doubt ad give the VERY LEAST
18 + 21 years = 39
39 is Prime, no matter how much you guys wanna twist it.
This one's a bit confusing. Is it indicating that Oden confronted Kaido during the "fool of a lord" period and they used the hostage shit to keep him away or what?
If you guys think Kaido here 41 years ago in Rox is (12 - 14) years old. Then you guys are either having bad eyes. OR, your damage control is making you say the most outrageous fantasies just to make Kaido be very young to never admit that Kaido was at his prime against Oden.
This was AT LEAST 18 years old grown up man. AT LEAST, THE MINIMUM. Normal age would be fucking 22 - 25. And I'm still giving the benefit of the doubt ad give the VERY LEAST
18 + 21 years = 39
39 is Prime, no matter how much you guys wanna twist it.
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