Spoiler One Piece Chapter 971 Spoilers Discussion

[Dellinger]

Hahahaha
But for real

Think about it a little

Kaido was not 5 years old in Rox. The silhouette shown during the Rox showed that Kaido was "Grown up". At the VERY LEAST, I would say he was 18. AT THE VERY LEAST. NO WAY below that. The right age for that body mass is probably 22 or 25. But let's assume the WORST and make it 18.

This was 41 years ago. Oden's war with Kaido happened 20 years ago. so 21 + 18 = 39 years old
If that is NOT Prime age, then people are fucking fooling themselves.

And I know some people will say "Oh no, now he's much stronger"
and when Luffy defeats him, the same people will say "well, Kaido got older, he's in his 60s, so he lost his strength.

Oden missed Kaido's prime
And Luffy missed Kaido's prime

Like I said, these are just excuses. Plain and simple.

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I would KILL MY SELF if he was 12 or 14
Just because you call someone "old hag" doesn't mean you are young dude.
It's what any old dude calls an old woman with. They usually diss each other like that

At the VERY LEAST, he was 18 based on the silhouette. he was fucking grown up. You guys need to realize that and stop your headcannon just to save face for Kaido even at the cost of what was shown

Shutenmaru was 15 when he fought Oden and he was dwarfing humans, are you being serious here ? Why would a 27 year old Kaido be called an apprentice ?

 

[Rmstorm]

Shutenmaru was 15 when he fought Oden and he was dwarfing humans, are you being serious here ? Why would a 27 year old Kaido be called an apprentice ?

Kaido is as old as Dragon age 55- age 59 Oden's age.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Shutenmaru was 15 when he fought Oden and he was dwarfing humans, are you being serious here ? Why would a 27 year old Kaido be called an apprentice ?

Apprentice doesn't mean you have to be a kid
Apprentice can be called for someone who joined "piracy" recently. No matter what your age is. You are just trainee at the very start of your pirate career. It has nothing to do with your age.

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Roger defeated the Rocks Pirates at age 39. This is prime age. He also conquered the Grandline at age 38.

Shanks and Mihawk are around that same age 39 for Shanks now, and 41 for Mihawk. People just will never admit it.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Toki is IM sama

Stop the wild theory Horny

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Shutenmaru was 15 when he fought Oden and he was dwarfing humans, are you being serious here ? Why would a 27 year old Kaido be called an apprentice ?

Give Kaido 15 years old + 21, and he's 36. Still Prime age

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I get that people are calling oden naive or dumb but to me
its admirable.

 

[Rivaille]

I get that people are calling oden naive or dumb but to me
its admirable.

THANK YOU!!!!

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

it all depends on if people think you grow more from
13 or so to 33
or from 33 to 53
I would like to imagine the growth at the start of your journey is the most significant especially if you are already called invincible 20 yrs ago and the person you are fighting against was like wb right hand man. this kaido is close to his peak. just people making excuses
and the number I used are minimums.

 

[HA001]

As if kaido got clapped twice the bum.

100 hostages indeed.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Op characters dont grow forever
kaido unlike bb didnt get another df or two
nothing suggest he had a drastic up movement 20 yrs ago. close to 40 yrs ago was what sengoku referenced

 

[Dellinger]

Give Kaido 15 years old + 21, and he's 36. Still Prime age

Big Mom as a 5 year old child was dwarfing humans too. Using size to support your argument is beyond stupid. Again if Kaido was 25 as you are saying, he wouldn't be an apprentice, he would be a normal member. Marco, Shanks, Buggy etc are all examples.

WB was 36 when he was under Rocks, was he in his prime too ?

You are trying too hard here, Kaido's prime strength is now whether you like it or not.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Prime is 35 and above until you hit 60. That's where you may start to have some few declines. Big Mom for me s

it all depends on if people think you grow more from
13 or so to 33
or from 33 to 53
I would like to imagine the growth at the start of your journey is the most significant especially if you are already called invincible 20 yrs ago and the person you are fighting against was like wb right hand man. this kaido is close to his peak. just people making excuses
and the number I used are minimums.

Exactly. We are using "MINIMUM" numbers for his age at Rox, and still he SHOULD be at a prime age

 

[Jeremypippen]

Okiku the traitor if you ask me she isn’t burning in the pot and is no where to be found plus she got sent to the future and she knew Raizo went to zou and she stayed in Wano while Kinemon and Kanjuro and momo left Wano to gain allies surely she gave information to kaido when zoro first met him/her he said Kiku is hiding something, Kiku is the traitor. More importantly man oden has my respect no doubt I don’t care what anyone says yes he’s naive not that smart but what person wouldn’t sacrifice for their family/friends/country he was personified at least to be a king, lord, and shogun and he showed the qualities of a true man. However he lacked common sense, but I guess you can say and agree it’s because of plot and Oda’s repetitive theme of pirates invading a country and taking over like Doflamingo and crocodile and Luffy and co come to the rescue but ultimately this flashback should’ve been over we get a break not to mention that long break during New Years and this flashback is still going on wtf is up with the pacing only 5 minutes of boiling and torture and we have to wait next week for what 10 minutes cmon Oda end this flashback and give us the current situation in Wano I want to see jimbei and everyone already cut the cover story crap already who cares about bege smh to think Vito or gotti or whoever got taken out by that marine would be able to kill or take out bobbin is ridiculous oden has my respect momo does too and also Kinemon I like their character and ties to Wano but let’s face it this flashback is dragging and quite stupid but nonetheless Kiku is the traitor I wonder how kyoshiro will tie into this flashback and oden and denjiro is definitely the witching hour boy and he might have ties to zoro but I want this flashback over and for god sake we haven’t seen big moms crew after what king did to them and them landing in a certain place in Wano how did they not run into Luffy or zoro’s group?

 

[MarineHQ]

To be honest. I stopped giving a shit about that traitor plot when Kaidou admitted to Oden and his retainers that THEY do have one amongst their rank, but not a single one ever reflected on who it could be

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Big Mom as a 5 year old child was dwarfing humans too. Using size to support your argument is beyond stupid. Again if Kaido was 25 as you are saying, he wouldn't be an apprentice, he would be a normal member. Marco, Shanks, Buggy etc are all examples.

WB was 36 when he was under Rocks, was he in his prime too ?

You are trying too hard here, Kaido's prime strength is now whether you like it or not.

How many years after rocks did wb come to stand on equal terms with roger
you think he was much weaker
lmao.
think people forget garp and roger were involved in that fight. both top tiers as well.

 

[The Penguin]

Jim Carrey as Robotnik is the traitor.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Big Mom as a 5 year old child was dwarfing humans too. Using size to support your argument is beyond stupid. Again if Kaido was 25 as you are saying, he wouldn't be an apprentice, he would be a normal member. Marco, Shanks, Buggy etc are all examples.

WB was 36 when he was under Rocks, was he in his prime too ?

You are trying too hard here, Kaido's prime strength is now whether you like it or not.

"You are trying too hard here, Kaido's prime strength is now whether you like it or not"
no one said it aint now,
but we are arguing now isnt much better than what we see vs oden.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Jim Carrey as Robotnik is the traitor.

The only post here that matters/isn’t completely stupid.

We are NEVER gonna have a consensus on this age/“prime” thing, which sucks, because it’s such an evidently obvious concept that 90 percent of you dickheads don’t seem to grasp :namiriously:

 

[Ganja userr]

Can someone translated the 2 new pics that were posted, we need transaltions before people start jumping the gun again.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Big Mom as a 5 year old child was dwarfing humans too. Using size to support your argument is beyond stupid. Again if Kaido was 25 as you are saying, he wouldn't be an apprentice, he would be a normal member. Marco, Shanks, Buggy etc are all examples.

WB was 36 when he was under Rocks, was he in his prime too ?

You are trying too hard here, Kaido's prime strength is now whether you like it or not.

Here is the fun part for you my friend and why your argument is BASELESS
The whole thingy of "Kaido was apprentice" was not mentioned by Sengoku. It's "Fake Spoiler"

The same way the "fake spoiler" of Moria reduced a lot of Kaido's forces before Oden faced him.

The only thing that Sengoku mentioned about Kaido was the same as Big Mom, which is... they were at their "younger days"

here is the page for you. So do not use the "apprentice" excuse with me, please. Unless you bring me Viz translation which I don't have my hands on it now and it says otherwise

You guys are using "apprentice" excuse when it's not even a proven fact