Spoiler One Piece Chapter 974 Spoilers Discussion

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KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
Is Luffy wearing a captain's coat at the end!? He looks friggin awesome! :lumazed:
Also, wow, we now know who the traitor was. Figured it'd be Kanjuro. He was the only one besides Kin'emon and Momo to know Raizo was on Zou. Excluding Momo, that'd only leave Kin'emon and Kanjuro, but since Kin'emon was with Momo and was lost on Punk Hazard, that'd leave Kanjuro who's actions during Dressrosa remained ambiguous.

Plus, it was strange how little insight we had on Kanjuro during the whole flashback compared to the other vassals, despite being the one we've known second to longest.
 

Cyrus the Cactus

Mihawk Reigns Supreme
Same cant imagine how queens is gonna look cool
Round ass body, stubby baby legs, and a long ass neck lol
:hihihi:
If Queen was lean like Kaku, it might work out...but Kaku was still pretty ridiculous. At least he was a cool character.
So are there any Wano's mysteries left to discuss? :feelscryingman::feelscryingman:
Pretty much every named character in Wano has had a full reveal except Shimotsuki Ushimaru. Hopefully we see something about him :josad:

I would have hoped orochi was a kyoshiro esque character tho esp with that mythical zoan.
shame
Pretty sure most Zoro fans were hoping for a strong Shogun opponent for him...but then we got Orochi. At least there's King I suppose.

Zoro isn't scratching Kaido. Get that notion out of your heads now.
If that's the case Zoro should've just gotten Nidai Kitetsu instead of one of Oden's swords :catsure:
 
Incredible.

Basically, it was impossible to know Kanjuro was a traitor because there was 0 evidence he was the traitor. The narrative excuse Oda used was:
  • He was born as a theatre actor.
  • He lost his emotions.
  • He wanted to die.
  • He has been a Kurozumi this entire time.
Unless anyone could have known these before hand, it was impossible for anyone to have good reason to claim Kanjuro the traitor or evidence to prove so. More or less, no one had evidence and the best we could do was make guesses. Heck, he could just as well have claimed Raizo was the traitor because there was no evidence and all he'd have to do is say:
  • He was born an actor.
  • A Kurzomi.
  • Wanted to die.
And we'd just have to accept it.

This is in essence a deus ex machina trickery. Creation of a convenient excuse to get a desired purpose without build up or evidence.

While it's a cheap method of tricking the audience (readers), it's still effective because Oda rarely and ever pulls out this kind of devices in his writing. Oda usually hints and leaves trails of evidence, but I guess here, there's none unless I'm not seeing them.
Not a fan of such methodology, but it does add a spin to the story and add more tension and I guess... surprise.

As for Denjiro, it seems he actually did slash Komurosaki. I had wondered how exactly it was possible to fake a death in front of people, but it's only really possible to fake deaths when no one is around e.g. You go missing or you plant fake evidence in a place for people to find to come to the conclusion you're dead.

Regardless, Oda pulled it off very well.
 
Incredible.

Basically, it was impossible to know Kanjuro was a traitor because there was 0 evidence he was the traitor. The narrative excuse Oda used was:
  • He was born as a theatre actor.
  • He lost his emotions.
  • He wanted to die.
  • He has been a Kurozumi this entire time.
Unless anyone could have known these before hand, it was impossible for anyone to have good reason to claim Kanjuro the traitor or evidence to prove so. More or less, no one had evidence and the best we could do was make guesses. Heck, he could just as well have claimed Raizo was the traitor because there was no evidence and all he'd have to do is say:
  • He was born an actor.
  • A Kurzomi.
  • Wanted to die.
And we'd just have to accept it.

This is in essence a deus ex machina trickery. Creation of a convenient excuse to get a desired purpose without build up or evidence.

While it's a cheap method of tricking the audience (readers), it's still effective because Oda rarely and ever pulls out this kind of devices in his writing. Oda usually hints and leaves trails of evidence, but I guess here, there's none unless I'm not seeing them.
Not a fan of such methodology, but it does add a spin to the story and add more tension and I guess... surprise.

As for Denjiro, it seems he actually did slash Komurosaki. I had wondered how exactly it was possible to fake a death in front of people, but it's only really possible to fake deaths when no one is around e.g. You go missing or you plant fake evidence in a place for people to find to come to the conclusion you're dead.

Regardless, Oda pulled it off very well.
Actually it was alot of Small Hint
his Design is like a Kabuki Actor



also it seems it was an actual Reference from a JP Historical Character
 
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Homelander

Incredible.

Basically, it was impossible to know Kanjuro was a traitor because there was 0 evidence he was the traitor. The narrative excuse Oda used was:
  • He was born as a theatre actor.
  • He lost his emotions.
  • He wanted to die.
  • He has been a Kurozumi this entire time.
Unless anyone could have known these before hand, it was impossible for anyone to have good reason to claim Kanjuro the traitor or evidence to prove so. More or less, no one had evidence and the best we could do was make guesses. Heck, he could just as well have claimed Raizo was the traitor because there was no evidence and all he'd have to do is say:
  • He was born an actor.
  • A Kurzomi.
  • Wanted to die.
And we'd just have to accept it.

This is in essence a deus ex machina trickery. Creation of a convenient excuse to get a desired purpose without build up or evidence.

While it's a cheap method of tricking the audience (readers), it's still effective because Oda rarely and ever pulls out this kind of devices in his writing. Oda usually hints and leaves trails of evidence, but I guess here, there's none unless I'm not seeing them.
Not a fan of such methodology, but it does add a spin to the story and add more tension and I guess... surprise.

As for Denjiro, it seems he actually did slash Komurosaki. I had wondered how exactly it was possible to fake a death in front of people, but it's only really possible to fake deaths when no one is around e.g. You go missing or you plant fake evidence in a place for people to find to come to the conclusion you're dead.

Regardless, Oda pulled it off very well.
Actually kanjuro as a traitor makes sense.

1. His face cut , it resembles a kabuki artist performing in threatre.

2. We do see few brids on the sky after they leap 20 years ahead.

3. Only kin and kanjuro knew raizo was in zou ,so only either of them can be traitor.

4. Kurozumi grandma was able to gain momo's facecut. So someone from scabbard could have let her in the palace , most of the time royal children dont venture out in public.

5. Biggest proof were the Strawhat and others did not arrive on port itachi. That should tell you they already knew a scabbard was the mole. So law or xdrake knew about it because of denjiro's new info.
 
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