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Yeah and? Oden was already stronger than kaido at that time, if he was Alive he would be even stronger than 20 years ago.
Zoro is not oden lvl now, even the oden of 20 years ago. Kaido already had his DF, his fame, his strenght, his endurence, Its not like he IS way stronger now, hes more experient.
Zoro is not oden lvl now, even the oden of 20 years ago. Kaido already had his DF, his fame, his strenght, his endurence, Its not like he IS way stronger now, hes more experient.
Now lets look at how Zoro was presented against a Marine Admiral.
An Admiral catches Zoro off guard and lands an incredbily strong bedrock vaporizing attack and overpowers it with his raw strength and then pushes Fuji back several meters with Fujitora shivering/shuddering while Zoro has minimal damage.
Fujitora acknowledges Zoro as a strong dude implying he is someone who can give him real challenge. Jinbei literally has not shown feats or either AP or raw strength to be able to overpower that Fujitora attack and get out of the gravity hole without presence of great deal of water.
Jinbei takes an indirect hit from Akainu and is treated like a little bug and runs away like fish turd bitch he is
A casual Hakiless Jet Stamp was able to make Jinbei bruise mean while a Haki jet stamp was able to do no visible damage to this Dragon at Punk Hazard. Showing that the dragon is more durable than Jinbei
Zoro casually one shots and beheads same dragon without even using Haki. Same attack if he lands on Jinbei, Jinbei is getting cut clean in half as he is shown to have less durable skin than this dragon
On top of that Zoro literally shits on Jinbei in virtually every stat
-CoA by a mile
-Speed
-Attack power by a country mile
-Lethality
-Range (unless Jinbei is on a ship in the middle of a ocean)
-Talent
-Endurance
-Reflxes
The only stat Jinbei has over Zoro is durability which is virtually irrelevant against Ryou master like Zoro who can cut Jinbei clean in half in a single hit
I get the Jinbei > Sanji, Oda seems to be presenting it that way anyways but Jinbei > Zoro is pure mindless wank.
Best Jinbei can hope for is giving pre Enma Zoro a mid diff fight and current Zoro a low diff fight
@AdmiralKinyagi
An Admiral catches Zoro off guard and lands an incredbily strong bedrock vaporizing attack and overpowers it with his raw strength and then pushes Fuji back several meters with Fujitora shivering/shuddering while Zoro has minimal damage.
Fujitora acknowledges Zoro as a strong dude implying he is someone who can give him real challenge. Jinbei literally has not shown feats or either AP or raw strength to be able to overpower that Fujitora attack and get out of the gravity hole without presence of great deal of water.
Jinbei takes an indirect hit from Akainu and is treated like a little bug and runs away like fish turd bitch he is
A casual Hakiless Jet Stamp was able to make Jinbei bruise mean while a Haki jet stamp was able to do no visible damage to this Dragon at Punk Hazard. Showing that the dragon is more durable than Jinbei
Zoro casually one shots and beheads same dragon without even using Haki. Same attack if he lands on Jinbei, Jinbei is getting cut clean in half as he is shown to have less durable skin than this dragon
On top of that Zoro literally shits on Jinbei in virtually every stat
-CoA by a mile
-Speed
-Attack power by a country mile
-Lethality
-Range (unless Jinbei is on a ship in the middle of a ocean)
-Talent
-Endurance
-Reflxes
The only stat Jinbei has over Zoro is durability which is virtually irrelevant against Ryou master like Zoro who can cut Jinbei clean in half in a single hit
I get the Jinbei > Sanji, Oda seems to be presenting it that way anyways but Jinbei > Zoro is pure mindless wank.
Best Jinbei can hope for is giving pre Enma Zoro a mid diff fight and current Zoro a low diff fight
@AdmiralKinyagi
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People in Flower capital remember about Kozuki clan after all these years ah...oh that's good
Jinbe defeating that headliner and all the surrounding soldiers easily made me laugh lol... Sanji was thinking like me ( how can Jinbe be good at everything xD)
Queen's bullet seems interesting....His bullets can turn people into ice ogre? For real? What happened to Drake and Zoro? Were they also infected? (Most probably not)... Mostly Drake and Zoro will be fighting against those ice ogre guys now.
Kaido's willing to die according to himself. Wonder why?
Even nine scabbards combined doesn't really equate to Oden. I'm happy that's the case. Excited to see his tornado attack. Now it's Kaido's time to toy with scabbards
Jinbe defeating that headliner and all the surrounding soldiers easily made me laugh lol... Sanji was thinking like me ( how can Jinbe be good at everything xD)
Queen's bullet seems interesting....His bullets can turn people into ice ogre? For real? What happened to Drake and Zoro? Were they also infected? (Most probably not)... Mostly Drake and Zoro will be fighting against those ice ogre guys now.
Kaido's willing to die according to himself. Wonder why?
Even nine scabbards combined doesn't really equate to Oden. I'm happy that's the case. Excited to see his tornado attack. Now it's Kaido's time to toy with scabbards
Now lets look at how Zoro was presented against a Marine Admiral.
An Admiral catches Zoro off guard and lands an incredbily strong bedrock vaporizing attack and overpowers it with his raw strength and then pushes Fuji back several meters with Fujitora shivering/shuddering while Zoro has minimal damage.
Fujitora acknowledges Zoro as a strong dude implying he is someone who can give him real challenge. Jinbei literally has not shown feats or either AP or raw strength to be able to overpower that Fujitora attack and get out of the gravity hole without presence of great deal of water.
Jinbei takes an indirect hit from Akainu and is treated like a little bug and runs away like fish turd bitch he is
A casual Hakiless Jet Stamp was able to make Jinbei bruise mean while a Haki jet stamp was able to do no visible damage to this Dragon at Punk Hazard. Showing that the dragon is more durable than Jinbei
Zoro casually one shots and beheads same dragon without even using Haki. Same attack if he lands on Jinbei, Jinbei is getting cut clean in half as he is shown to have less durable skin than this dragon
On top of that Zoro literally shits on Jinbei in virtually every stat
-CoA by a mile
-Speed
-Attack power by a country mile
-Lethality
-Range (unless Jinbei is on a ship in the middle of a ocean)
-Talent
-Endurance
-Reflxes
The only stat Jinbei has over Zoro is durability which is virtually irrelevant against Ryou master like Zoro who can cut Jinbei clean in half in a single hit
I get the Jinbei > Sanji, Oda seems to be presenting it that way anyways but Jinbei > Zoro is pure mindless wank.
Best Jinbei can hope for is giving pre Enma Zoro a mid diff fight and current Zoro a low diff fight
@AdmiralKinyagi
An Admiral catches Zoro off guard and lands an incredbily strong bedrock vaporizing attack and overpowers it with his raw strength and then pushes Fuji back several meters with Fujitora shivering/shuddering while Zoro has minimal damage.
Fujitora acknowledges Zoro as a strong dude implying he is someone who can give him real challenge. Jinbei literally has not shown feats or either AP or raw strength to be able to overpower that Fujitora attack and get out of the gravity hole without presence of great deal of water.
Jinbei takes an indirect hit from Akainu and is treated like a little bug and runs away like fish turd bitch he is
A casual Hakiless Jet Stamp was able to make Jinbei bruise mean while a Haki jet stamp was able to do no visible damage to this Dragon at Punk Hazard. Showing that the dragon is more durable than Jinbei
Zoro casually one shots and beheads same dragon without even using Haki. Same attack if he lands on Jinbei, Jinbei is getting cut clean in half as he is shown to have less durable skin than this dragon
On top of that Zoro literally shits on Jinbei in virtually every stat
-CoA by a mile
-Speed
-Attack power by a country mile
-Lethality
-Range (unless Jinbei is on a ship in the middle of a ocean)
-Talent
-Endurance
-Reflxes
The only stat Jinbei has over Zoro is durability which is virtually irrelevant against Ryou master like Zoro who can cut Jinbei clean in half in a single hit
I get the Jinbei > Sanji, Oda seems to be presenting it that way anyways but Jinbei > Zoro is pure mindless wank.
Best Jinbei can hope for is giving pre Enma Zoro a mid diff fight and current Zoro a low diff fight
@AdmiralKinyagi
Jinbei could keep up with gear 2 Luffy, who Zoro has not as of yet demonstrated better speed then.
Jinbei’s endurance is greater, based on him fighting for 5 days against Ace, and remaining conscious after having his organs destroyed by Akainu.
You also forgot to give Jinbei intelligence, and hax when he’s in water.
I feel like you aren't reading what I am saying and just posting some irrelevant stuff for posting sake. Rayleigh completely stopped Kizaru in his tracks. Even after MF, and after witnessing his ordeal with WB and Marco, Sentomaru notes that Rayleigh is the guy that stopped Kizaru.
Kizaru was so frustrated that he had to vent on no name pirates because he actively couldn't get past Rayleigh and was complaining that Rayleigh was making him look bad.
> Kizaru pulled out his sword, named sword and one of his 3 techniques named after the 3 imperial treasures of Japan
> Was complaining that Rayleigh is making him look bad
> Stated they would need to prepare themselves in more way than one to even attempt to catch Rayleigh
>Actively couldn't get past Rayleigh, and it has been mentioned multiple times in the story, had to take out his anger on no name pirates
> And that's a Rayleigh who hadn't touched a sword in years
Those are Kizaru's abilities. His lasers are useless against Rayleigh who can dodge them, or bounce them back or reflect them. And Rayleigh didn't use any named sword technique, any advanced haki technique and so on. Sure Kizaru would have won the fight, after a very difficult battle though.
Only one person has demonstrated the advanced armament that Rayleigh possesses and that's current Luffy.
Of course it doesn't stop them being stronger than him when they are vastly superior in multiple categories. The point was to showcase Rayleigh's prowess with haki.
And please make actual points and not waste my time like this anymore.
Kizaru was so frustrated that he had to vent on no name pirates because he actively couldn't get past Rayleigh and was complaining that Rayleigh was making him look bad.
> Kizaru pulled out his sword, named sword and one of his 3 techniques named after the 3 imperial treasures of Japan
Only one person has demonstrated the advanced armament that Rayleigh possesses and that's current Luffy.
Of course it doesn't stop them being stronger than him when they are vastly superior in multiple categories. The point was to showcase Rayleigh's prowess with haki.
And please make actual points and not waste my time like this anymore.
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When you said this.
"Zoro has literally overpower an admirals attack while said Admiral using a lot more power than Akainu did on Jinbei"
You think When Akainu is trying to kill somebody he 'isn't' going full force? And that Force Busting through Jinbei and Scarring Luffy...
Gonna call some bullshit on that one.
"Zoro has literally overpower an admirals attack while said Admiral using a lot more power than Akainu did on Jinbei"
You think When Akainu is trying to kill somebody he 'isn't' going full force? And that Force Busting through Jinbei and Scarring Luffy...
Gonna call some bullshit on that one.
Lol no.
Fujitora shares portrayal with Akainu. Fujitora and Akainu seem to be opposites in the Navy and ones who clash wills. Whilst Akainu is an adamant follower of absolute justice, Fujitora is much more compassionate and willing to see things clearly, without the immediate prejudice of evil and good. Akainu would destroy and pursue anyone in his way, even his own people for wasting precious seconds
Whilst Fujitora generally cares for people, pirates included, as evident when he allows the SHC to escape, and doesn't attack them at first due to DR citizens, and later on even helps them by sinking the ships of those who are in their way and who are only looking to cause trouble.
In addition, to add up on the aforementioned remark, here we see them clashing their beliefs and justices, both portrayed in the same vein, angrily yelling at each other, advocating their view of the system and fighting for what they believe is proper.
Furthermore, the newest chapters also add to this. Fujitora was vehemently advocating the abolition of the Warlords to which Akainu was opposed, further illustrating their differences in beliefs.
And the Admiral title being a strength related title, disqualifies the notion that any of them mid/low, or even high diff each other. Best case scenario is Akainu high diffing Fujitora.
Fujitora shares portrayal with Akainu. Fujitora and Akainu seem to be opposites in the Navy and ones who clash wills. Whilst Akainu is an adamant follower of absolute justice, Fujitora is much more compassionate and willing to see things clearly, without the immediate prejudice of evil and good. Akainu would destroy and pursue anyone in his way, even his own people for wasting precious seconds
And the Admiral title being a strength related title, disqualifies the notion that any of them mid/low, or even high diff each other. Best case scenario is Akainu high diffing Fujitora.
Now lets look at how Zoro was presented against a Marine Admiral.
An Admiral catches Zoro off guard and lands an incredbily strong bedrock vaporizing attack and overpowers it with his raw strength and then pushes Fuji back several meters with Fujitora shivering/shuddering while Zoro has minimal damage.
Fujitora acknowledges Zoro as a strong dude implying he is someone who can give him real challenge. Jinbei literally has not shown feats or either AP or raw strength to be able to overpower that Fujitora attack and get out of the gravity hole without presence of great deal of water.
Jinbei takes an indirect hit from Akainu and is treated like a little bug and runs away like fish turd bitch he is
A casual Hakiless Jet Stamp was able to make Jinbei bruise mean while a Haki jet stamp was able to do no visible damage to this Dragon at Punk Hazard. Showing that the dragon is more durable than Jinbei
Zoro casually one shots and beheads same dragon without even using Haki. Same attack if he lands on Jinbei, Jinbei is getting cut clean in half as he is shown to have less durable skin than this dragon
On top of that Zoro literally shits on Jinbei in virtually every stat
-CoA by a mile
-Speed
-Attack power by a country mile
-Lethality
-Range (unless Jinbei is on a ship in the middle of a ocean)
-Talent
-Endurance
-Reflxes
The only stat Jinbei has over Zoro is durability which is virtually irrelevant against Ryou master like Zoro who can cut Jinbei clean in half in a single hit
I get the Jinbei > Sanji, Oda seems to be presenting it that way anyways but Jinbei > Zoro is pure mindless wank.
Best Jinbei can hope for is giving pre Enma Zoro a mid diff fight and current Zoro a low diff fight
@AdmiralKinyagi
An Admiral catches Zoro off guard and lands an incredbily strong bedrock vaporizing attack and overpowers it with his raw strength and then pushes Fuji back several meters with Fujitora shivering/shuddering while Zoro has minimal damage.
Fujitora acknowledges Zoro as a strong dude implying he is someone who can give him real challenge. Jinbei literally has not shown feats or either AP or raw strength to be able to overpower that Fujitora attack and get out of the gravity hole without presence of great deal of water.
Jinbei takes an indirect hit from Akainu and is treated like a little bug and runs away like fish turd bitch he is
A casual Hakiless Jet Stamp was able to make Jinbei bruise mean while a Haki jet stamp was able to do no visible damage to this Dragon at Punk Hazard. Showing that the dragon is more durable than Jinbei
Zoro casually one shots and beheads same dragon without even using Haki. Same attack if he lands on Jinbei, Jinbei is getting cut clean in half as he is shown to have less durable skin than this dragon
On top of that Zoro literally shits on Jinbei in virtually every stat
-CoA by a mile
-Speed
-Attack power by a country mile
-Lethality
-Range (unless Jinbei is on a ship in the middle of a ocean)
-Talent
-Endurance
-Reflxes
The only stat Jinbei has over Zoro is durability which is virtually irrelevant against Ryou master like Zoro who can cut Jinbei clean in half in a single hit
I get the Jinbei > Sanji, Oda seems to be presenting it that way anyways but Jinbei > Zoro is pure mindless wank.
Best Jinbei can hope for is giving pre Enma Zoro a mid diff fight and current Zoro a low diff fight
@AdmiralKinyagi
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