Speculations One Piece Fans, Like Most People, Commit Logical Fallacies Frequently

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Oh nothing. I just wanted to tag you as you said you made your account only because you wanted to give Tapioca a piece of your mind in the other thread. And while I was reading this specifc thread here, I noticed that the guy/gal used a similar approach with communicating with other users here, too. So, I thought that maybe you wanted to comment on here, as well, since you do not like what/how he is writing. That's all.

If your initial purpose of getting your account has changed and you are now an active user, who is contributing to this forum outside of the the intention of making Tapioca reflect - welcome! I hope you will like it here.
 
#44
Oh nothing. I just wanted to tag you as you said you made your account only because you wanted to give Tapioca a piece of your mind in the other thread. And while I was reading this specifc thread here, I noticed that the guy/gal used a similar approach with communicating with other users here, too. So, I thought that maybe you wanted to comment on here, as well, since you do not like what/how he is writing. That's all.

If your initial purpose of getting your account has changed and you are now an active user, who is contributing to this forum outside of the the intention of making Tapioca reflect - welcome! I hope you will like it here.
I try to ignore him now, he’s clearly a troll or just demented. Better to not constantly feed into his threads, it encourages them.
 
#45
I try to ignore him now, he’s clearly a troll or just demented. Better to not constantly feed into his threads, it encourages them.
I think in a twisted way, his character is interesting to me, since I am very much interested in interpersonal particularities because of my job. (I just stick with him here as I think he is a he). And I just read some comments from him as there are a few things that I noticed:
1. He seems to be viewing this forum from an elevated point of view, as he often times talks down from that elevation to the people, he deems lesser than him - lesser in form of being not as intelligent as him: This is a good example from one of his comments I stumbled upon: "This is a reading comprehension thing. The story must be very confusing for you all."
2. He likes to use "complex wording" in his comments. Language reflects the character after all, but here I think he just wants us to think that he is intelligent. He needs that to feel superior to us. Honestly, his wording is not that outstanding - he tries but fails to establish that intellectual picture he wants to reflect of himself.
3. He loves talking about himself, as he likes to present himself to the audience of this forum in a very specific manner (for example the first few comments of this thread are good proof of that). He wants to seem funny and charming, as well as intelligent and wants us to believe that picture he is painting of himself. His goal is to make friends as he tries to, but fails, because he is talking from that elevated position. He does not realize that he can't connect to other people this way. Which shows us that -
4. - he can't empathize with other people. He sees the world only from his view point and lacks basic self-reflection.
5. He generalizes the crowd that is reading his comments, as he often uses phrases like "all worstgen users" or something like that. He is thinking very much in boxes and it just gives us a view of how he thinks of us all: He is just not interested in our individual lifes. Again, here we see his lack of empathy.

All in all, I think he is a narcisist and you are right, we should ignore him.

But I wanted to add one more thing:

I wrote that also for you in mind Tapioca as I know you are reading this comment. And I know that you need that external approval for your self-esteem, since you are very unsure of yourself. Come down from your high horse. You are making yourself transparent enough here and no one is that stupid to believe that picture you are painting of yourself.
 
#46
I think in a twisted way, his character is interesting to me, since I am very much interested in interpersonal particularities because of my job. (I just stick with him here as I think he is a he). And I just read some comments from him as there are a few things that I noticed:
1. He seems to be viewing this forum from an elevated point of view, as he often times talks down from that elevation to the people, he deems lesser than him - lesser in form of being not as intelligent as him: This is a good example from one of his comments I stumbled upon: "This is a reading comprehension thing. The story must be very confusing for you all."
2. He likes to use "complex wording" in his comments. Language reflects the character after all, but here I think he just wants us to think that he is intelligent. He needs that to feel superior to us. Honestly, his wording is not that outstanding - he tries but fails to establish that intellectual picture he wants to reflect of himself.
3. He loves talking about himself, as he likes to present himself to the audience of this forum in a very specific manner (for example the first few comments of this thread are good proof of that). He wants to seem funny and charming, as well as intelligent and wants us to believe that picture he is painting of himself. His goal is to make friends as he tries to, but fails, because he is talking from that elevated position. He does not realize that he can't connect to other people this way. Which shows us that -
4. - he can't empathize with other people. He sees the world only from his view point and lacks basic self-reflection.
5. He generalizes the crowd that is reading his comments, as he often uses phrases like "all worstgen users" or something like that. He is thinking very much in boxes and it just gives us a view of how he thinks of us all: He is just not interested in our individual lifes. Again, here we see his lack of empathy.

All in all, I think he is a narcisist and you are right, we should ignore him.

But I wanted to add one more thing:

I wrote that also for you in mind Tapioca as I know you are reading this comment. And I know that you need that external approval for your self-esteem, since you are very unsure of yourself. Come down from your high horse. You are making yourself transparent enough here and no one is that stupid to believe that picture you are painting of yourself.
You guys really put too much thought into things.

This is called Slippery Slope fallacy. Just because I did one small thing doesn't mean all these other big things are true.

It would be an ad-hominem too maybe because you're trying to undermine my character to detract from the argument.

What is the argument in this thread? That people here have a tendency toward amateur arguments filled with nonsense rhetoric.

Let's remain objective. Your opinions about me tend to be subjective. My reasoning skill isn't on trial and nobody else's is either. This post is intended to help people avoid areas of discussion that are unproductive.

Is it a fact I am a narcissist? No. It's also not a fact whenever you say it to anyone else.
 
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#48
You guys really put too much thought into things.

This is called Slippery Slope fallacy. Just because I did one small thing doesn't mean all these other big things are true.

It would be an ad-hominem too maybe because you're trying to undermine my character to detract from the argument.

What is the argument in this thread? That people here have a tendency toward amateur arguments filled with nonsense rhetoric.

Let's remain objective. Your opinions about me tend to be subjective. My reasoning skill isn't on trial and nobody else's is either. This post is intended to help people avoid areas of discussion that are unproductive.

Is it a fact I am a narcissist? No. It's also not a fact whenever you say it to anyone else.
Dude, as I said: I knew you would read my comment.

You guys really put too much thought into things.
No, this is how I always write - much and detailled. I would not be surprised, if my average wordcount for a normal comment here on worstgen is 400 or more.

This is called Slippery Slope fallacy. Just because I did one small thing doesn't mean all these other big things are true.
Which of my statements do you mean exactly? You are too unspecific here. I wrote 455 words, with at least 5 different points I made.

It would be an ad-hominem too maybe [...].
Of course this is about you - I never tried to claim otherwise. This whole thread is about your thoughts about us worstgen users! This is from you after all and your own opinion about us, right?:

"So let's talk about something we all know deep down in our hearts and souls.
- Members of Worstgen are too inept at arguing to actually argue well.
- Arguing well involves not committing logical fallacies and providing reasoning to an argument."

[...] because you're trying to undermine my character to detract from the argument.
And your argument is...? That you are thinking that we are "[...] too inept at arguing to actually argue well."? This has everything to do with you, bro - with your character and the argument.

What is the argument in this thread?
Your opinion about us worstgen members.

That people here have a tendency toward amateur arguments filled with nonsense rhetoric.
Please, highlight the part from my comment that you find especially amateurish and explain to me why you think so. As I again have to tell you that you are not specific enough in your statement. Secondly, this is not about rhetoric, it's about the content of your messages here - especially the content that I can pick up in between the lines (point 1-5 above). At this point your rhetoric is the least I want to discuss, as it is unimportant to me.

Let's remain objective. Your opinions about me tend to be subjective.
Opinions are subjective. Didn't you know that? Otherwise they would not be called opinions but statements. And no, this thread is about your subjective view of all worstgen users. This thread was founded upon a subjective view and it will stay subjective. It would be empathically dumb for me to write "You are not as intelligent as you think you are." than to write "I think, you are not as intelligent as you think you are." as this could easily explode (seen here in this thread well enough).

My reasoning skill isn't on trial and nobody else's is either.
Yes, it is. Because you are stomping on peoples feet here and are making not many friends while doing so. You generalized everyone in worstgen and called them "too inept at arguing to actually argue well". Not to mention those many other instances I stumbled upon, while reading your comments. Take that one example of yours from the reply to Thunderbold above.

This post is intended to help people avoid areas of discussion that are unproductive.
Than first think about this: Telling someone that they are not good at something as clumsy as you did in your first comment in this thread, tells me that you do not know how to approach people. Try to be more careful next time you open such a thread. No one will follow your advice, if the first thing you throw at their heads are generalizations like: "Members of Worstgen are too inept at arguing to actually argue well".

And again, this forum is meant for people, who are sometimes not interested in "productivity". They are here, because they want to hang out with people, who are like-minded. For them, just messing around here is fun and should not be seen as productive at all. It is a hobby, not work.
 
#50
Dude, as I said: I knew you would read my comment.


No, this is how I always write - much and detailled. I would not be surprised, if my average wordcount for a normal comment here on worstgen is 400 or more.


Which of my statements do you mean exactly? You are too unspecific here. I wrote 455 words, with at least 5 different points I made.


Of course this is about you - I never tried to claim otherwise. This whole thread is about your thoughts about us worstgen users! This is from you after all and your own opinion about us, right?:

"So let's talk about something we all know deep down in our hearts and souls.
- Members of Worstgen are too inept at arguing to actually argue well.
- Arguing well involves not committing logical fallacies and providing reasoning to an argument."


And your argument is...? That you are thinking that we are "[...] too inept at arguing to actually argue well."? This has everything to do with you, bro - with your character and the argument.


Your opinion about us worstgen members.


Please, highlight the part from my comment that you find especially amateurish and explain to me why you think so. As I again have to tell you that you are not specific enough in your statement. Secondly, this is not about rhetoric, it's about the content of your messages here - especially the content that I can pick up in between the lines (point 1-5 above). At this point your rhetoric is the least I want to discuss, as it is unimportant to me.


Opinions are subjective. Didn't you know that? Otherwise they would not be called opinions but statements. And no, this thread is about your subjective view of all worstgen users. This thread was founded upon a subjective view and it will stay subjective. It would be empathically dumb for me to write "You are not as intelligent as you think you are." than to write "I think, you are not as intelligent as you think you are." as this could easily explode (seen here in this thread well enough).


Yes, it is. Because you are stomping on peoples feet here and are making not many friends while doing so. You generalized everyone in worstgen and called them "too inept at arguing to actually argue well". Not to mention those many other instances I stumbled upon, while reading your comments. Take that one example of yours from the reply to Thunderbold above.


Than first think about this: Telling someone that they are not good at something as clumsy as you did in your first comment in this thread, tells me that you do not know how to approach people. Try to be more careful next time you open such a thread. No one will follow your advice, if the first thing you throw at their heads are generalizations like: "Members of Worstgen are too inept at arguing to actually argue well".

And again, this forum is meant for people, who are sometimes not interested in "productivity". They are here, because they want to hang out with people, who are like-minded. For them, just messing around here is fun and should not be seen as productive at all. It is a hobby, not work.
We're not talking any further.
 
#51
We're not talking any further.
If I ever see you degrading someone of this forum in that narcisistic way of yours again, than trust me that I will reveal your hidden intentions and insecureties again for everyone to see - only this time, I will tag everyone, who has commented in said thread.

I will check on you and how you comment from now on.
 
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