One Piece Magazine Vol. 18 (on sale 4th June 2024)
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That's why I said slightly off topic though I'd argue it kinda ties into it a little bit
They aren't rivals in the traditional sense but they're always trying to one up each other
It's a competitive relationship
I mean clearly not lol
They're called the Wings in tons of extra material
The whole next magazine is about the two of them as the "Wings"
I have a very hard time believing that would stem from a mistranslation
Sandman also clarified that it was more than one person iirc
They aren't rivals in the traditional sense but they're always trying to one up each other
It's a competitive relationship
I mean clearly not lol
They're called the Wings in tons of extra material
The whole next magazine is about the two of them as the "Wings"
I have a very hard time believing that would stem from a mistranslation
Sandman also clarified that it was more than one person iirc
I’ll answer your question
let’s start simple
Zoro is the second strongest and Sanji is the third strongest member. Every SHC member is important but Z&S fight against the strongest enemies and are among the most popular characters
We already saw countless combinations: Zoro and Sanji, Franky and Sanji (against Saturn), Jinbe and Sanji (in Onigashima), Zoro and Jinbd (now) because of all of them are strong and can protect the crew if Luffy is absent or can support their captain
Zoro is the pinnacle in this regard as the second strongest member and Luffy's first mate
Sanji comes right after this
and don’t forget that the gap between Sanji and the other members was way bigger until Jinbe joined
This gave Sanji a special status along side Zoro and Luffy
They’re a duo and have a brotherly bond and mock each other like siblings, no one can deny this but I wouldn’t call them serious rivals.
Their strength, popularity and interactions/chemistry solidified both characters as the Wings of PK
But both are still unique characters with different roles and goals. This doesn’t mean that Zoro and Sanji are equal in strength or that " Zoro > Sanji " makes Sanji a bad character
let’s start simple
Zoro is the second strongest and Sanji is the third strongest member. Every SHC member is important but Z&S fight against the strongest enemies and are among the most popular characters
We already saw countless combinations: Zoro and Sanji, Franky and Sanji (against Saturn), Jinbe and Sanji (in Onigashima), Zoro and Jinbd (now) because of all of them are strong and can protect the crew if Luffy is absent or can support their captain
Zoro is the pinnacle in this regard as the second strongest member and Luffy's first mate
Sanji comes right after this
and don’t forget that the gap between Sanji and the other members was way bigger until Jinbe joined
This gave Sanji a special status along side Zoro and Luffy
They’re a duo and have a brotherly bond and mock each other like siblings, no one can deny this but I wouldn’t call them serious rivals.
Their strength, popularity and interactions/chemistry solidified both characters as the Wings of PK
But both are still unique characters with different roles and goals. This doesn’t mean that Zoro and Sanji are equal in strength or that " Zoro > Sanji " makes Sanji a bad character
I think people (mostly fairly) use it to argue relativity because it wouldn’t really make sense for one “wing” to be 100 and the other “wing” to be way down at 25
Why? Because strength is a clear part of their dynamic. I don’t think it’s strictly about strength (Zoro is the de-facto right hand and Sanji is considered the unofficial strategist) but that’s a pretty big part of it
Now I also agree that they aren’t dead equal but I don’t think the gap is quite as large as some fans claim it is
I think that “gap” is what Zoro and Sanji fans consistently butt heads on
It’s the same issue Luffy and Zoro fans struggle with due to their own unique dynamic
Why? Because strength is a clear part of their dynamic. I don’t think it’s strictly about strength (Zoro is the de-facto right hand and Sanji is considered the unofficial strategist) but that’s a pretty big part of it
Now I also agree that they aren’t dead equal but I don’t think the gap is quite as large as some fans claim it is
I think that “gap” is what Zoro and Sanji fans consistently butt heads on
It’s the same issue Luffy and Zoro fans struggle with due to their own unique dynamic
Now you’re flipping the definitions around
Zoro and Mihawk are rivals due to their desire to fight over the title of the WSS
They are nowhere near equal in power currently but on paper they are rivals which you also believe according to your previous messages
I said that’s true and clarified that the OP fanbase isn’t using the literal definition
Zoro and Sanji are considered to be rivals (by the community) because of the nature of their relationship and their supposed relativity in power
We’re going in circles now
Zoro and Mihawk are rivals due to their desire to fight over the title of the WSS
They are nowhere near equal in power currently but on paper they are rivals which you also believe according to your previous messages
I said that’s true and clarified that the OP fanbase isn’t using the literal definition
Zoro and Sanji are considered to be rivals (by the community) because of the nature of their relationship and their supposed relativity in power
We’re going in circles now
Of course it’s not Zoro >>> Sanji or something like that
Don’t take the trolls into account
Sanji is strong as hell but Zoro is still in his own league. Zoro >= Sanji is just plain wrong
Zoro's dream is strength related, Zoro is a conqueror and has adv CoC, Zoro is among the leaders of the next Gen, gave Kaido a permanent scar, will surpass Mihawk and Shanks etc.
Is he stronger or equal to Luffy? No
EoS Zoro will be around Roger's lvl and Luffy will surpass Roger's lvl as the PK and Joy Boy
EoS Sanji will be comparable to the Admirals and I’m a huge Admiral fan, so this is a compliment from my side but Zoro will reach the realm of legends
Don’t take the trolls into account
Sanji is strong as hell but Zoro is still in his own league. Zoro >= Sanji is just plain wrong
Zoro's dream is strength related, Zoro is a conqueror and has adv CoC, Zoro is among the leaders of the next Gen, gave Kaido a permanent scar, will surpass Mihawk and Shanks etc.
Is he stronger or equal to Luffy? No
EoS Zoro will be around Roger's lvl and Luffy will surpass Roger's lvl as the PK and Joy Boy
EoS Sanji will be comparable to the Admirals and I’m a huge Admiral fan, so this is a compliment from my side but Zoro will reach the realm of legends