Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I was going to go quote for quote but I can't be bothered, it's a weird game because I feel like I'm missing context despite having read all the pages.

@Red Night His focus on me early has been weird. Don't recall him ever doing it. Part of me wants to say as scum he probably doesn't bother and I guess that part is winning out, but I'm concerned about scum being able to farm that for free assuming I'd look the other way. Weirdo/10.

@Hayumi I don't buy your rush to slot Ekko in as town. If he has a census he needs to claim it ASAP or he will have to argue that it's a delayed ability, and it's as NAI as it gets. I think typically I expect you to be more measured before making conclusions. Feels like you feel you have urgency to make reads. Not saying you must be scum for it, but I don't like your early game.

@Naomi probably never fake claims miller. Town.

@Flower I don't buy that you're post restricted but I have you lean town because you've been generating content. Why did you ignore Hayumi when he asked what the deal was with Melkor? If it was a slip, why does Ekko pointing it out after you make Ekko town? With slips, as scum you don't want to draw attention to it but once someone spots it you need to dive right in. I don't think that's a reason to town read Ekko. I'm fine with Cata/Duckt as town.

I haven't seen much of an issue with Reloaded so far. He's always been a bit of an empty slot to me though so I'll leave that to someone else.

I think Mango looks fine so far. A bit too far on the troll scale but I just see it as him being in a good mood. Not enough to town read him but nothing about his early posts make him scum.

I think Michelle is town. Seems pretty engaged, as scum I feel like she plays into ignorance a lot but here she seems fine, if more relaxed than usual.

Alexis I dunno, feels weak from him so far. Usually he comes in tunnelling someone bu here he's just there. Could be scum.

Ekko is firmly Null for me maybe even scum side of Null.

That's about all I got.


 
@Hayumi I don't buy your rush to slot Ekko in as town. If he has a census he needs to claim it ASAP or he will have to argue that it's a delayed ability, and it's as NAI as it gets. I think typically I expect you to be more measured before making conclusions. Feels like you feel you have urgency to make reads. Not saying you must be scum for it, but I don't like your early game.


Like I said earlier I very much could have been rushing to that conclusion and I’ll eat it if so but the read is based on the assumption of the census numbers he gave being truthful, in a world where Ekko is scum it would be extremely suboptimal for him to provide those numbers and inform us of a census clearly balanced in town’s favor.

Why not just keep the census to himself if he isn’t town? I don’t feel like he inherently gets credit just from claiming a census in and of itself as I already said is NAI.
All this goes out the window if he lied about the actual numbers tho, which if scum he very likely switched it up and it’s anybody’s guess where he made changes.

He’s done shit all since the census tho, so I’m open to changing my mind depending on how he posts when he comes back.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Like I said earlier I very much could have been rushing to that conclusion and I’ll eat it if so but the read is based on the assumption of the census numbers he gave being truthful, in a world where Ekko is scum it would be extremely suboptimal for him to provide those numbers and inform us of a census clearly balanced in town’s favor.
Not really? Firstly we have no way of verifying the numbers so he could fudge them, and it's fairly common scum MO to make the numbers look more pro town to make town think they're in a better position than they are. Feels like a really weak and tenuous read to me.
Why not just keep the census to himself if he isn’t town? I don’t feel like he inherently gets credit just from claiming a census in and of itself as I already said is NAI.
Because if he claims it later we won't accept it unless he adds to it. And why not claim it as scum anyway? It's not like it helps that much.
All this goes out the window if he lied about the actual numbers tho, which if scum he very likely switched it up and it’s anybody’s guess where he made changes.
Right, which makes your very basis for reading him silly, because we can't verify it any time soon.
He’s done shit all since the census tho, so I’m open to changing my mind depending on how he posts when he comes back.
Fair, I suppose.

 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I have a PR, sweetie, and there‘s somebody else who can confirm that if needed <3.
Who bothers PR'ing you to speak like this? It doesn't really inhibit anything but given your tendancies it doesn't really make a lot of sense as a friendly joke either. But fine, there were several other things to respond to in that post, no need to focus on the most irrelevant part.

 
. Feels like a really weak and tenuous read to me.

Because if he claims it later we won't accept it unless he adds to it. And why not claim it as scum anyway? It's not like it helps that much.

Right, which makes your very basis for reading him silly, because we can't verify it any time soon.

Fair, I suppose.

Yes I already said it is the most tenuous of my town leans for that reason lol.

I’d say he’s the first one that could get kicked off it tho.
 
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