Ignoring sunk cost fallacy.

Absolute ruination of Mihawk, Shanks, Akainu, Blackbeard, Roger etc.

Retconning Luffys DF, the Vegapunk reveal and the "explanation for DFs" are all making me wish I dropped many years ago, along with that catastrophic for all the wrong reasons ironically finale to Wano.

At this point dropping it feels poinltess too given how "near" we are to the end and we're in the final saga now. But at the same time, I keep telling myself I should and only come back when its over.
"Retconning Luffy's DF"
One: Shanks and his crew don't eat fruits.
We know this.
So it was already suspicious that they just took a supposedly random and unimportant fruit "from pirates".
Two: This is shown even more during WW's explanation. Shanks wouldn't go through all that trouble and fight random CP0 agents for a rubber DF. Makes no sense.
He had to have been planning something. There was something behind the scenes.
And now we know why he did that and what really happened.
Three: The explanation for DFs is pretty good, other series have a similar explanation, maybe it's just you being biased/eager to hate like others that blinds you from seeing this.
 
Rebecca wasn’t bad
Chopper at least has his moments still
Carrot did a good job hyping sulong

Yamato from start to end was just ass
Rebecca is terrible.
Chopper slapped Queen, that's about it.
Carrot is annoying and not even strong, I don't think she's ever even won a fight.
Yamato would be fine without Oda making her an obnoxious personification of his Oden wank.
 
Rebecca is terrible.
Chopper slapped Queen, that's about it.
Carrot is annoying and not even strong, I don't think she's ever even won a fight.
Yamato would be fine without Oda making her an obnoxious personification of his Oden wank.
What was so bad about Rebecca? Yeah she was annoying, but her character actually had a good arc and has a solid reason to exist.

Chopper at least stood for something that has a personal connection to him.

Carrot hyped up Sulong mode and she didn’t need to be strong to be a fan one arc tag along. And she did fine like that, and I’m glad she wasn’t going to be anything more.

Yamato had nothing except pointless Oden wank. She literally had nothing else
 
"Retconning Luffy's DF"
One: Shanks and his crew don't eat fruits.
We know this.
So it was already suspicious that they just took a supposedly random and unimportant fruit "from pirates".
Two: This is shown even more during WW's explanation. Shanks wouldn't go through all that trouble and fight random CP0 agents for a rubber DF. Makes no sense.
He had to have been planning something. There was something behind the scenes.
And now we know why he did that and what really happened.
Three: The explanation for DFs is pretty good, other series have a similar explanation, maybe it's just you being biased/eager to hate like others that blinds you from seeing this.
To believe a man with rubber devil fruit becomes the strongest is absolute stupidity. I saw it from way earlier that paramecia devil fruit shouldn't let Luffy change his form like he does in gear 4. In a world where there is a dragon, magma, even darkness as df, believing Luffy has a simple rubber fruit is the fault of the reader. Its not a retcon, considering Shanks has the fruit and he stole it from the WG ship, there is no chance of it being a not so special df. Those who see that as a retcon, don't know what's a retcon or hate Luffy. Thats simple.
When its said that there's no rubber devil fruit, Shanks said Gomu Gomu to brainwash Luffy and protect him from being haunted by the WG. Where's the retcon? Retcon would be Luffy suddenly having a Electricity devil fruit or a wind Logia.
 
To believe a man with rubber devil fruit becomes the strongest is absolute stupidity. I saw it from way earlier that paramecia devil fruit shouldn't let Luffy change his form like he does in gear 4. In a world where there is a dragon, magma, even darkness as df, believing Luffy has a simple rubber fruit is the fault of the reader. Its not a retcon, considering Shanks has the fruit and he stole it from the WG ship, there is no chance of it being a not so special df. Those who see that as a retcon, don't know what's a retcon or hate Luffy. Thats simple.
When its said that there's no rubber devil fruit, Shanks said Gomu Gomu to brainwash Luffy and protect him from being haunted by the WG. Where's the retcon? Retcon would be Luffy suddenly having a Electricity devil fruit or a wind Logia.
I don't know if Oda planned it to be the Nika fruit from the beginning, but I'm sure he's known for at least 10 years or so.
 
What was so bad about Rebecca? Yeah she was annoying, but her character actually had a good arc and has a solid reason to exist.

Chopper at least stood for something that has a personal connection to him.

Carrot hyped up Sulong mode and she didn’t need to be strong to be a fan one arc tag along. And she did fine like that, and I’m glad she wasn’t going to be anything more.

Yamato had nothing except pointless Oden wank. She literally had nothing else
If Yamato had a good personality and the Oden shit wasn't there she'd be pretty good.
She's already quite strong and competent in battle, she just needs some character.
To believe a man with rubber devil fruit becomes the strongest is absolute stupidity. I saw it from way earlier that paramecia devil fruit shouldn't let Luffy change his form like he does in gear 4. In a world where there is a dragon, magma, even darkness as df, believing Luffy has a simple rubber fruit is the fault of the reader. Its not a retcon, considering Shanks has the fruit and he stole it from the WG ship, there is no chance of it being a not so special df. Those who see that as a retcon, don't know what's a retcon or hate Luffy. Thats simple.
When its said that there's no rubber devil fruit, Shanks said Gomu Gomu to brainwash Luffy and protect him from being haunted by the WG. Where's the retcon? Retcon would be Luffy suddenly having a Electricity devil fruit or a wind Logia.
No offense but I believe Ghostly and other people who believe this ( mainly Reddit users iirc ) just like to shit on Oda.
I mean they're better than Lee as he exists to just shit on EVERY SINGLE THING ODA DOES, but still.
As you said, it literally makes 0 sense for him to just have a rubber fruit. Sure, it'd be nice if he made it with just that, but stuff like Gear 5th fits the story and his personality BETTER.
People would want him to just be rubber and become PK with only that ability possibly due to powerscaling.
People would want him to have Gear 5th either due to powerscaling, OR the liberation/freedom themes and what not.
You can especially see how people really think after Oda revealed Zoro's family tree in a SBS.
Now they're saying he's a hack and all that but, who were the ones hoping for Kidd to defeat Shanks or push him to mid/high diff even though his backstory was literally revealed in a SBS too?
That's at least one thing Oda is really good at. He can root out the real fans and people who wear their biased, black-as-charcoal hearts on their sleeves.
Even Twitter is guilty of this.
 
If Yamato had a good personality and the Oden shit wasn't there she'd be pretty good.
She's already quite strong and competent in battle, she just needs some character.

No offense but I believe Ghostly and other people who believe this ( mainly Reddit users iirc ) just like to shit on Oda.
I mean they're better than Lee as he exists to just shit on EVERY SINGLE THING ODA DOES, but still.
As you said, it literally makes 0 sense for him to just have a rubber fruit. Sure, it'd be nice if he made it with just that, but stuff like Gear 5th fits the story and his personality BETTER.
People would want him to just be rubber and become PK with only that ability possibly due to powerscaling.
People would want him to have Gear 5th either due to powerscaling, OR the liberation/freedom themes and what not.
You can especially see how people really think after Oda revealed Zoro's family tree in a SBS.
Now they're saying he's a hack and all that but, who were the ones hoping for Kidd to defeat Shanks or push him to mid/high diff even though his backstory was literally revealed in a SBS too?
That's at least one thing Oda is really good at. He can root out the real fans and people who wear their biased, black-as-charcoal hearts on their sleeves.
Even Twitter is guilty of this.
Who cares about strength? Being strong doesn’t make you a good character. Kaido is the strongest villain to date, but honestly one of the worst as well. Same with Big Mom
 
I don't know if Oda planned it to be the Nika fruit from the beginning, but I'm sure he's known for at least 10 years or so.
Its in skypiea. Just before he lauches his final attack to beat Enel, a woman prays to the Sun God to keep Enel away akin to how Kaido's defeat came after the ballons in fire festival had the wishes of the people of Wano to be freed from Kaido and Orochi. He linked Oden's writing in poneyglyph way back in Skypiea to Wano.
The circumstance around how Luffy ate the fruit and the reaction of Shanks thereafter is sus too. Especially when he gave his arm and hat to Luffy. Would he bet his arm over a kid that just ate the rubber fruit or a kid that just ate the fruit, which if awakened, is of the Sun God that the entire WG fears?
 
Its in skypiea. Just before he lauches his final attack to beat Enel, a woman prays to the Sun God to keep Enel away akin to how Kaido's defeat came after the ballons in fire festival had the wishes of the people of Wano to be freed from Kaido and Orochi. He linked Oden's writing in poneyglyph way back in Skypiea to Wano.
The circumstance around how Luffy ate the fruit and the reaction of Shanks thereafter is sus too. Especially when he gave his arm and hat to Luffy. Would he bet his arm over a kid that just ate the rubber fruit or a kid that just ate the fruit, which if awakened, is of the Sun God that the entire WG fears.
That's a solid argument.
 
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