Matchup scaling takes precedence over anything and everything. Like I said. This just means Kizaru could do the same since it was established Kizaru ~ Aokiji at the very least through matchup scaling.

The only thing that can supplant this is if both Kizaru and Kuzan go all out and Kuzan proves to be superior OR we get a statement from Oda. Until then you can bring me all the stuff possible and Kizaru will sit pretty thanks to matchup scaling.
Nothing takes precedence over a legit fight against two individuals who had an extreme diff fight lmao

Unless you think Odas going to make Kizaru > Sakazuki he can’t be stronger than Kuzan
 
Introduction Scaling:
Kuzan was first (weakest)
Kizaru
Akainu (strongest)

Matchup Scaling:
Kuzan (Jozu and got punked by WB; punked by Garp)
Kizaru (Marco and he punked WB: mogged Goofy)
Akainu (self-explanatory)

Height Scaling:
Kuzan (shortest and weakest)
Kizaru
Akainu

Kizaru is above Kuzan by every metric, proven by the trifecta of powerscaling science.
Kizarutard mo yamemasho.this is ridiculous
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
The easiest way to tell you how infallible matchup scaling is, is by substituting the characters.

Some people want us to believe that if Garp, Sengoku and unnamed Admiral were to defend MHQ in a war against the Roger Pirates, Oda would draw Garp against Roger, unnamed Admiral vs Rayleigh, and Sengoku vs Gaban.

This is why it's just impossible to make a case for Kuzan because Oda handed him the 3rd in that scenario, Oda is not handing Admiral #3 that role instead of Sengoku. It just tells you how highly he thinks of Kizaru to give him the RHM and not Kuzan during the war. (Both in WBP and RHP cases).

Aokiji vs Akainu is a testament to how strong the C3 were, it does nothing to supplant the above.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
Introduction Scaling:
Kuzan was first (weakest)
Kizaru
Akainu (strongest)

Matchup Scaling:
Kuzan (Jozu and got punked by WB; punked by Garp)
Kizaru (Marco and he punked WB; mogged Goofy)
Akainu (self-explanatory)

Height Scaling:
Kuzan (shortest and weakest)
Kizaru
Akainu

Kizaru is above Kuzan by every metric, proven by the trifecta of powerscaling science.
Shanks showed up first
Mihawk second
Dragon last

:shocked:
 
Introduction Scaling:
Kuzan was first (weakest)
Kizaru
Akainu (strongest)

Matchup Scaling:
Kuzan (Jozu and got punked by WB; punked by Garp)
Kizaru (Marco and he punked WB; mogged Goofy)
Akainu (self-explanatory)

Height Scaling:
Kuzan (shortest and weakest)
Kizaru
Akainu

Kizaru is above Kuzan by every metric, proven by the trifecta of powerscaling science.
true, but Kizaru was the last of the Og admiral we ever saw
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
The easiest way to tell you how infallible matchup scaling is, is by substituting the characters.

Some people want us to believe that if Garp, Sengoku and unnamed Admiral were to defend MHQ in a war against the Roger Pirates, Oda would draw Garp against Roger, unnamed Admiral vs Rayleigh, and Sengoku vs Gaban.

This is why it's just impossible to make a case for Kuzan because Oda handed him the 3rd in that scenario, Oda is not handing Admiral #3 that role instead of Sengoku. It just tells you how highly he thinks of Kizaru to give him the RHM and not Kuzan during the war. (Both in WBP and RHP cases).

Aokiji vs Akainu is a testament to how strong the C3 were, it does nothing to supplant the above.
Kuzan beat Jozu on his own whereas Kizaru needed VA help though.
 
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