Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

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Yamato in the Admiral tier. LMAO. She has no ap, she can just take much, she probably loses to Queen if he doesn't play dumb.

There should be a bridge between Admiral and YC1 imho. Zoro fits in there perfectly.

Admiral/Yonko is the same shit. Just Top Tier level.

Ace is not YC1, dude's a fraud.

Sanji brutally kills Kidd if they fight. Kidd lower.

Prime Garp, Sengoku and Shiki too high. I know that Garp was meant to be Roger's "rival" but we know that was more so a nod because of their friendship.

Rocks was Roger's only Rival.

Statements about Garp's prowess are weird because of the fact that it took Sengoku and Garp to put down Shiki and he still managed to fuck up Marineford. One on one it might've been rough for each of Sengoku and Garp.

I spoilered it to not make a huge wall.

How does Yamato have no AP? Dude was hanging with Hybrid Kaidou.
Yonko>Admirals, that's why their tier is below the Yonko one ( until they get new feats ofc )
Ace matched Akainu's punch physically.
That's why I put Sanji above Kidd, Kidd is too predictable in a fight, as seen with Shanks and others.
Garp Sengoku and Shiki are fine. Roger him self said Garp nearly killed him and Roger nearly did the same to Garp a few times in the past.
Everyone in God Tier is relative/equal mind you. Well, besides Urouge..

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

(I made this for some friends on Vsbattles so take it with a grain of salt, though most of this is my honest opinion.)

I'd create a tier between admiral and YC1.

Put Zoro, Sabo, Law, Old Ray, etc there.

Why is Aramaki in the not enough feats tier lol. I think it's clear he belongs with the other admirals

 

[Midnight Delight]

Aramaki kills Fujitora

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I'd create a tier between admiral and YC1.

Put Zoro, Sabo, Law, Old Ray, etc there.

Why is Aramaki in the not enough feats tier lol. I think it's clear he belongs with the other admirals

True, Aramaki should be with the others. I'll fix that.
It's just that the other Admirals have more feats. All Aramaki did so far is defeat Weevil and endure an ACoC hit from Yamato.

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Comedy gold

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

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Yamato in the Admiral tier. LMAO. She has no ap, she can just take much, she probably loses to Queen if he doesn't play dumb.

There should be a bridge between Admiral and YC1 imho. Zoro fits in there perfectly.

Admiral/Yonko is the same shit. Just Top Tier level.

Ace is not YC1, dude's a fraud.

Sanji brutally kills Kidd if they fight. Kidd lower.

Prime Garp, Sengoku and Shiki too high. I know that Garp was meant to be Roger's "rival" but we know that was more so a nod because of their friendship.

Rocks was Roger's only Rival.

Statements about Garp's prowess are weird because of the fact that it took Sengoku and Garp to put down Shiki and he still managed to fuck up Marineford. One on one it might've been rough for each of Sengoku and Garp.

I spoilered it to not make a huge wall.

Tbf to Garp and Sengoku, they definitely felt the need to hold back to avoid destroying all of MF. And even so... Those two and Shiki have really destructive fighting styles. I don't think the Shiki situation is that bad of a look for them.

I consider Garp his rival because Roger himself said they almost killed each other many times. Safe to say, Garp was at least close in strength

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Tbf to Garp and Sengoku, they definitely felt the need to hold back to avoid destroying all of MF. And even so... Those two and Shiki have really destructive fighting styles. I don't think the Shiki situation is that bad of a look for them.

I consider Garp his rival because Roger himself said they almost killed each other many times. Safe to say, Garp was at least close in strength

:cheers:

 

[Formerly Seth]

How does Yamato have no AP? Dude was hanging with Hybrid Kaidou.
Yonko>Admirals, that's why their tier is below the Yonko one ( until they get new feats ofc )
Ace matched Akainu's punch physically.
That's why I put Sanji above Kidd, Kidd is too predictable in a fight, as seen with Shanks and others.
Garp Sengoku and Shiki are fine. Roger him self said Garp nearly killed him and Roger nearly did the same to Garp a few times in the past.
Everyone in God Tier is relative/equal mind you. Well, besides Urouge..

That's what I said about Roger and his stuff with Garp being a nod form the author. I doubt they ever fought a full blown fight.

Admirals don't have crews to match with the Pirates who have Commanders and etc...


Yamato is just tanky, she has no ap, she did nothing to Kaido. Running around someone for 30 minutes causing no damage is not "hanging with XYZ" that's not how power scaling works.

When it comes to Ace matching Akainu:

Hole in one bro.

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Tbf to Garp and Sengoku, they definitely felt the need to hold back to avoid destroying all of MF. And even so... Those two and Shiki have really destructive fighting styles. I don't think the Shiki situation is that bad of a look for them.

I consider Garp his rival because Roger himself said they almost killed each other many times. Safe to say, Garp was at least close in strength

Garp was like WB for Roger.

People have this fucking "rival" fetish.

It's like saying Kidd and Law are rivals to Luffy, they are more homies who may spar with you than enemies.

It was established by Oda later on that Rocks was Roger true rival you have it word for word.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

True, Aramaki should be with the others. I'll fix that.
It's just that the other Admirals have more feats. All Aramaki did so far is defeat Weevil and endure an ACoC hit from Yamato.

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Comedy gold

I mean, he also defeated two yonko commanders, and was obviously going to defeat scabbards?

Does Issho really have as many feats as Aramaki?

 

[Midnight Delight]

I mean, he also defeated two yonko commanders, and was obviously going to defeat scabbards?

Does Issho really have as feats as Aramaki?

No

He no counters to the Vines

 

[Formerly Seth]

Ryokugyu vs Fujitora is Extreme Diff either way.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

That's what I said about Roger and his stuff with Garp being a nod form the author. I doubt they ever fought a full blown fight.

Admirals don't have crews to match with the Pirates who have Commanders and etc...


Yamato is just tanky, she has no ap, she did nothing to Kaido. Running around someone for 30 minutes causing no damage is not "hanging with XYZ" that's not how power scaling works.

When it comes to Ace matching Akainu:

Hole in one bro.

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Garp was like WB for Roger.

People have this fucking "rival" fetish.

It's like saying Kidd and Law are rivals to Luffy, they are more homies who may spar with you than enemies.

It was established by Oda later on that Rocks was Roger true rival you have it word for word.

Kidd and Law were nothing like Garp and Whitebeard lmao. In terms of power relative to Roger that is.

And I'm pretty sure Garp and Roger did fight one on one.... Pirates don't always end up fighting with the backing of their crews.

Roger also told fodder Marines to get either Garp or Sengoku, he clearly has an idea of Garp's power level that suggests experience...

 

[Formerly Seth]

Kidd and Law were nothing like Garp and Whitebeard lmao. In terms of power relative to Roger that is.

And I'm pretty sure Garp and Roger did fight one on one.... Pirates don't always end up fighting with the backing of their crews.

Roger also told fodder Marines to get either Garp or Sengoku, he clearly has an idea of Garp's power level that suggests experience...

Garp could be strong but I doubt he was enough to put him down.

I can take 'They were of the same level" but at the end of the day Roger still wins imho.

Rocks was his only rival. Garp was like a homie you boxed with in HS.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Garp could be strong but I doubt he was enough to put him down.

I can take 'They were of the same level" but at the end of the day Roger still wins imho.

Rocks was his only rival. Garp was like a homie you boxed with in HS.

I agree with them being on a similiar level. I've always viewed Garp as close, but ultimately weaker.

I think it's odd to compare the rivalries because Xebec and Roger were both seemingly competing for similar things, just with different intentions. They were both pirates who were active during a particular era. They were in the same field(lol). Garp vs Roger's rivalry was like the criminal vs the law.

It's like how gangs consider different gangs rivals, but they don't really consider the police rivals(poor analogy but I think it gets my point across)

 

[Formerly Seth]

I agree with them being on a similiar level. I've always viewed Garp as close, but ultimately weaker.

I think it's odd to compare the rivalries because Xebec and Roger were both seemingly competing for similar things, just with different intentions. They were both pirates who were active during a particular era. They were in the same field(lol). Garp vs Roger's rivalry was like the criminal vs the law.

It's like how gangs consider different gangs rivals, but they don't really consider the police rivals(poor analogy but I think it gets my point across)

Roger and Rocks were the biggest "ideals" rivals in the show.

Roger just wanted to sail around doing fuck all. Pirate King is a free person.

Rocks wanted to enslave the world under his iron hand as a King of the World.

I really hope to see Roger vs Rocks flashback.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I mean, he also defeated two yonko commanders, and was obviously going to defeat scabbards?

Does Issho really have as feats as Aramaki?

Kept up with Sabo while only using a portion of his arsenal.
Also being called a monster by Doflamingo and what not ( though Doflamingo is fodder but.. still )
Also King and Queen were injured. Not that they'd win while healthy, but it's worth noting.

That's what I said about Roger and his stuff with Garp being a nod form the author. I doubt they ever fought a full blown fight.

Admirals don't have crews to match with the Pirates who have Commanders and etc...


Yamato is just tanky, she has no ap, she did nothing to Kaido. Running around someone for 30 minutes causing no damage is not "hanging with XYZ" that's not how power scaling works.

When it comes to Ace matching Akainu:

Hole in one bro.

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Garp was like WB for Roger.

People have this fucking "rival" fetish.

It's like saying Kidd and Law are rivals to Luffy, they are more homies who may spar with you than enemies.

It was established by Oda later on that Rocks was Roger true rival you have it word for word.

Yamato made him bleed and slammed him.
Ace matched Akainu's punch until his DF got overpowered.

 

[Embers Kaios]

Go ahead

SZA?

Yeah SZA

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Kept up with Sabo while only using a portion of his arsenal.
Also being called a monster by Doflamingo and what not ( though Doflamingo is fodder but.. still )
Also King and Queen were injured. Not that they'd win while healthy, but it's worth noting.

Yamato made him bleed and slammed him.
Ace matched Akainu's punch until his DF got overpowered.

The Sabo feat is nice, especially considering how high Sabo stocks have risen lately.

I may be misremembering, but didn't Doffy mention Aramaki and Issho as monsters in the same sentence?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Yeah SZA

Who?

The Sabo feat is nice, especially considering how high Sabo stocks have risen lately.

I may be misremembering, but didn't Doffy mention Aramaki and Issho as monsters in the same sentence?

Yurp.

 

[.Charm.]

The Sabo feat is nice, especially considering how high Sabo stocks have risen lately.

I may be misremembering, but didn't Doffy mention Aramaki and Issho as monsters in the same sentence?

Exactly, Doffy just compared Issho to be equal to Aramaki, a monster.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Yeah SZA

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