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The only one who can beat me is me
Katakuri took over the main antagonist role from Linlin once her hunger pains happened. It’d be more like saying Luffy would have a rivalry with Perospero at that point. Oda doesn’t do that, he has Luffy go straight for the head antagonist
Lmfaooo so when Oda does have Luffy familiarize himself with underlings, it suddenly doesn't count.

Yea like I said originally, you would have a point if you called the Espada the Sweet Commanders/Veterans of Bleach, Tobiroppo and All stars were not meant to serve the same role.
 
Lmao not at all the same. If Who’s Who was meant to be stronger he’d be more like Perospero not talking about being as strong as EL Lucci or being worried about losing to fucking Sasaki.
Oh my god
Dude you're taking something he said about being a rival to Lucci over a DECADE AGO to say he was only equal to pre ts Lucci in Wano
Not only is that a huge misinterpretation of what he said, but it also just makes no sense. The entire point was that the pre ts Straw Hats were no where near as strong as even the most weak and basic fodders of the New World, which is why they had to train over the course of two years. And even with that training, we still have moments like Luffy being bitten by Hody, or Luffy being bruised through his Armament by Ulti's headbutt. No way you think PRE TIMESKIP LUFFY, WITHOUT ANY OF THAT TRAINING, is even tickling WsW (who, mind you, is canonically above Ulti and Hody).
 
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