General & Others One piece vs utopia vs wss

Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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In comparison to obtaining the one piece just how difficult is it to achieve the other 2?

One piece = 100%
:pepebuggy:
Utopia = ? Percent
:pepecroc:
Wss = ?%
:pepehawk:

In comparison to finding the one piece we already know that the utopia plan is small time. On top of that mihawk admitted himself becoming the pirate king is tougher than surpassing him

We know crocodile originally gave up his dream of finding the one piece giving up and settling for his utopia plan. Mihawk also admitted that at cross guild's current state they're still going to need alot more power to achieve the utopia they want
 
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the utopia is much more difficult to pull off than finding one piece. it's something one needs to build and then maintain.

one piece is just something you find once and that's it.

this doesn't however change the fact that for crocodile, the utopia is a substitute dream and an attempt to escape the reality of his existing failures. the one piece dream was an ambition. the utopia dream is escapism.
 
Warchief Sanji D Goat

Warchief Sanji D Goat

Mommy Fubuki!
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Utopia >~ One Piece > WSS in terms of difficulty.

You need to become the strongest swordsman to reach WSS title.

One Piece you needs to be strong and have an influential crew.

Utopia is basically a nation of overwhelming military might that should be capable of fending any factions. So if the Marines were to lead a high scale invasion against Utopia with Fleet Admiral as the Commander-in-Chief and the Admirals are the generals and have tons of soldiers, Utopia according to Crocodile, should be able to fend off or even defeating them. That's a huge feat.

I put it above finding the One Piece/Becoming the PK for now.
 
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Warchief Sanji D Goat said:
Utopia is basically a nation of overwhelming military might that should be capable of fending any factions. So if the Marines were to lead a high scale invasion against Utopia with Fleet Admiral as the Commander-in-Chief and the Admirals are the generals and have tons of soldiers, Utopia according to Crocodile, should be able to fend off or even defeating them. That's a huge feat.
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yeah the thing is, you can find your precious one piece and when the WG sends its bad hombres after you, you can at least try to run away from them.

where do you run with your utopia country? nowhere. you stay where you are and defend it until you're out of resources.

and one shouldn't forget that for buggy, the one piece ambition is not necessarily 'the big ambition that makes all other ambitions look small, lame and unworthy' - it's what roger, his adoptive father, left him. buggy's holding onto the one piece thing because it embodies roger's will and that's all he has from roger. it's basically his treasure. that doesn't make it any more difficult to achieve than some other crazy dreams other people have.
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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straightforward said:
the utopia is much more difficult to pull off than finding one piece. it's something one needs to build and then maintain.

one piece is just something you find once and that's it.

this doesn't however change the fact that for crocodile, the utopia is a substitute dream and an attempt to escape the reality of his existing failures. the one piece dream was an ambition. the utopia dream is escapism.
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Warchief Sanji D Goat said:
Utopia >~ One Piece > WSS in terms of difficulty.

You need to become the strongest swordsman to reach WSS title.

One Piece you needs to be strong and have an influential crew.

Utopia is basically a nation of overwhelming military might that should be capable of fending any factions. So if the Marines were to lead a high scale invasion against Utopia with Fleet Admiral as the Commander-in-Chief and the Admirals are the generals and have tons of soldiers, Utopia according to Crocodile, should be able to fend off or even defeating them. That's a huge feat.

I put it above finding the One Piece/Becoming the PK for now.
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We already know through not just buggy's words but crocodile and mihawk that they all know goin for the one piece is way tougher

We already seen examples in story of countries capable of holding off outside forces. Wano being the main and obvious one and it isn't even know as the strongest country
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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Albino 👑 said:
We already know through not just buggy's words but crocodile and mihawk that they all know goin for the one piece is way tougher

We already seen examples in story of countries capable of holding off outside forces. Wano being the main and obvious one and it isn't even know as the strongest country
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The one piece is just buggys dream and he was talking about how they all left for the sea in search of their own dreams.

And no country has ever gained a military might beyond the WG
 
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Albino 👑 said:
We already know through not just buggy's words but crocodile and mihawk that they all know goin for the one piece is way tougher
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they don't know. they just assume

look at rayleigh - he's just a bum. been nothing but a bum for decades. a bum like this could have never kept a military empire running - which is what one would have to do to keep the utopia afloat.

We already seen examples in story of countries capable of holding off outside forces. Wano being the main and obvious one and it isn't even know as the strongest country
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wano was invaded by laido, though? so i don't think this is a good example. oden was a strong man yet he failed to protect wano
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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straightforward said:
they don't know. they just assume

look at rayleigh - he's just a bum. been nothing but a bum for decades. a bum like this could have never kept a military empire running - which is what one would have to do to keep the utopia afloat.
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Crocodile already tried to go after the one piece and failed thats why he settled for a lesser goal.
They're not just assuming either they 100% realize how much more work theyd have to put in to get the one piece


Rayleigh is one man
Neither goal is achievable by a single person
straightforward said:
wano was invaded by laido, though? so i don't think this is a good example. oden was a strong man yet he failed to protect wano
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Kaido only invaded when oden was gone and admitted himself had oden stayed the force on wano would have been too much
 
SakazOuki

SakazOuki

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Albino 👑 said:

In comparison to obtaining the one piece just how difficult is it to achieve the other 2?

One piece = 100%
:pepebuggy:
Utopia = ? Percent
:pepecroc:
Wss = ?%
:pepehawk:

In comparison to finding the one piece we already know that the utopia plan is small time. On top of that mihawk admitted himself becoming the pirate king is tougher than surpassing him

We know crocodile originally gave up his dream of finding the one piece giving up and settling for his utopia plan. Mihawk also admitted that at cross guild's current state they're still going to need alot more power to achieve the utopia they want
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Utopia = 300%
WSS = 40%

Crocodile is a hack
:specialmeh:
 
BuggyDGod

BuggyDGod

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Albino 👑 said:

In comparison to obtaining the one piece just how difficult is it to achieve the other 2?

One piece = 100%
:pepebuggy:
Utopia = ? Percent
:pepecroc:
Wss = ?%
:pepehawk:

In comparison to finding the one piece we already know that the utopia plan is small time. On top of that mihawk admitted himself becoming the pirate king is tougher than surpassing him

We know crocodile originally gave up his dream of finding the one piece giving up and settling for his utopia plan. Mihawk also admitted that at cross guild's current state they're still going to need alot more power to achieve the utopia they want
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Utopia is literally farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr more difficult than finding One Piece. It is virtually an impossible dream.

You would have to be more powerful than the Rocks pirates to even achieve it.
 
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Albino 👑 said:
Crocodile already tried to go after the one piece and failed thats why he settled for a lesser goal.
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crocodile settled for a dream he THINKS is 'easier' (or lesser as you put it). as things are, crocodile has achieved neither so he's not really qualified to judge which dream is actually harder to achieve.

mihawk is in a better position because, assuming his title is not fraudulent, he has actually achieved the WSS status so i'm inclined to take his claims - that becoming WSS is easier than getting one piece - a bit more seriously.

Kaido only invaded when oden was gone and admitted himself had oden stayed the force on wano would have been too much
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laido is one of the dumbest characters in one piece so i can't give credence to anything he says. oden was a retard, so had he been the shogun, duping him should have been very easy for anyone with at least room temp IQ.
 
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for the record - i think the utopia dream is not 'impossible' - i think it can be done if modelled after the germa kingdom. basically, if your utopia is a ship, you could maybe get away with it (if the sea itself doesn't swallow you).

as a country/island, i don't think it's possible to achieve, though.
 
HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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SakazOuki said:
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There's a weird retardation on worst gen when it comes to this

That everyone keeps being a retard and pretending WE HAVENT SEEN ON PANEL what Roger did to be pirate king

Barely lifted a finger

Buggy who was on that journey said himself you don't need to fight anyone.

Nothing Roger did to be pk (the only example we have)
Is harder than beating a top tier.

And it's only gonna get worse if oda makes buggy pk.
 
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