General & Others Onepiece without Zoro
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Damn.. the missunderstanding of One Piece hits hard sometimes.
Don't you understand that One Piece is Luffy and Luffy One Piece ? Without Luffy there is no One Piece, not because he is a good character, but because every single thread of the storytelling in One Piece are related for far or away to Luffy. Cutting Luffy from One Piece would be like doing that:
Don't you understand that One Piece is Luffy and Luffy One Piece ? Without Luffy there is no One Piece, not because he is a good character, but because every single thread of the storytelling in One Piece are related for far or away to Luffy. Cutting Luffy from One Piece would be like doing that:
Luffy is the centerpiece of One Piece, he is the reason why the world of One Piece is as it is. Narratively and thematically, One Piece is not One Piece without Luffy, its at best a spin off.
To recreate something as special as One Piece with another character of One Piece you would need to rewrite not only One Piece but entire storylines and story arc. You would also need to redesign characters, reimagine the world.
You would be better off writing your own story. Trust me.
To recreate something as special as One Piece with another character of One Piece you would need to rewrite not only One Piece but entire storylines and story arc. You would also need to redesign characters, reimagine the world.
You would be better off writing your own story. Trust me.
Oda is physically incapable of writing a female character the way he writes zoro
For example Oda wouldn’t let a woman get sliced through by Mihawk
it’s hilarious how you guys are forgetting that it’s not an accident that Oda writes women the way he does and that the reason there are no women written the way the male characters are is by design
if Oda in 1997 were to try and replace the plot lines for Zoro with A female character, THE ENTIRE STORY would fall apart, it would literally be worse than if oda just deleted Zoro from the story
For example Oda wouldn’t let a woman get sliced through by Mihawk
it’s hilarious how you guys are forgetting that it’s not an accident that Oda writes women the way he does and that the reason there are no women written the way the male characters are is by design
if Oda in 1997 were to try and replace the plot lines for Zoro with A female character, THE ENTIRE STORY would fall apart, it would literally be worse than if oda just deleted Zoro from the story
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This is not true. Sasuke and Killua have dedicated arcs which Zoro does not so removing them removes the actual storylines unlike Zoro
also Sasuke and killua affect Naruto and gon as characters and actually influence their character development… Zoro does not have any such effect on Luffy as a character… the entire thing between Zoro and Luffy is that they are VERY SIMILAR and the ways they differ don’t matter because Luffy is Zoro’s boss so nothing Zoro disagrees with matters outside of luffy’s own agency and authority over him
the one and only time Luffy and Zoro meaningful disagreed was the Usopp situation regarding usopp apologizing but then again nothing came of it, Usopp did apologize and there was no further exploration of this disagreement… compare this to Naruto and Sasuke’s disagreements in the Naruto part 1 and how their conflict literally reshaped the entire story around them
This is not true. Sasuke and Killua have dedicated arcs which Zoro does not so removing them removes the actual storylines unlike Zoro
also Sasuke and killua affect Naruto and gon as characters and actually influence their character development… Zoro does not have any such effect on Luffy as a character… the entire thing between Zoro and Luffy is that they are VERY SIMILAR and the ways they differ don’t matter because Luffy is Zoro’s boss so nothing Zoro disagrees with matters outside of luffy’s own agency and authority over him
the one and only time Luffy and Zoro meaningful disagreed was the Usopp situation regarding usopp apologizing but then again nothing came of it, Usopp did apologize and there was no further exploration of this disagreement… compare this to Naruto and Sasuke’s disagreements in the Naruto part 1 and how their conflict literally reshaped the entire story around them
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Zoro could be replaced. But then you would to put Rayleigh, Wyper, Law, Gin, King, Katakuri or Whitebeard in the crew. Strong, silent, resilient, determined put it all on the line for the crew/his captains dream. That sort of guy.
Kyros, Paulie, Kohza are other examples but they fall a bit short. Look back at when Zoro met up with Luffy in Wano. Its no coincidence Luffy jumped of joy. Zoro is his #1 and nothing or nobody can change that. If Zoro died he can't be replaced, its like Whitebeard could never replace Oden even with Marco and the rest. Not until he found Ace 20+ years later.
Kyros, Paulie, Kohza are other examples but they fall a bit short. Look back at when Zoro met up with Luffy in Wano. Its no coincidence Luffy jumped of joy. Zoro is his #1 and nothing or nobody can change that. If Zoro died he can't be replaced, its like Whitebeard could never replace Oden even with Marco and the rest. Not until he found Ace 20+ years later.
I already told you something that changes if Zoro is a woman. Zoro’s fights change. There is no world in which Mihawk would be written to cut through a woman by Eiichiro Oda.
all the brutality that people enjoyed about early Zoro fights (which no longer exists in the current story) would be gone. Mr. 1 wouldn’t mangle female Zoro up with his blades. The entire Nothing happened wouldn’t happen.
Oda is incapable of drawing women getting fucked up on the level that men get fucked up (unless it’s ugly-ass Big mom)
Zoro’s personality you can say can be transferred to a woman but not his actual storylines. Too many of Zoro’s stories are about him getting fucked up physically and Oda isn’t doing that to no woman
all the brutality that people enjoyed about early Zoro fights (which no longer exists in the current story) would be gone. Mr. 1 wouldn’t mangle female Zoro up with his blades. The entire Nothing happened wouldn’t happen.
Oda is incapable of drawing women getting fucked up on the level that men get fucked up (unless it’s ugly-ass Big mom)
Zoro’s personality you can say can be transferred to a woman but not his actual storylines. Too many of Zoro’s stories are about him getting fucked up physically and Oda isn’t doing that to no woman