Powers & Abilities People dont realise the potential of dice fruit for S-hawk and how it will be a game changer for Zoro moving foward

#21
If Pacifista's don't have it then Seraphim don't have it either.
How can a artificially engineered thing, made to exclusively follow orders, have a power directly tied to willpower lol
Pacifista are way more robotic then seraphim, Seraphim are flesh and blood. Do you really think Oda would have children be mindless slaves the whole story when freedom is so important in one piece.
 
#22
It’s a running plot since the first chapter of Egghead with the roboshark that there is some sort of inherent instinct that science can’t overcome.

You‘ve also got S-Snake getting flustered at praise and S-Hawk reacting a bit to Zoro saying he’s a more human than Mihawk is.

Basically I think the plot for the Seraphim is leading to them breaking free of their programming through their own will, and will is Haki.

For the DF itself, I dunno, I think it’s just a Zoro reference and that Oda needed to give him one but didn‘t want to make it too different. It’s a plot-necessity more than anything else, because why wouldn’t S-Hawk have a DF power when the others do?
 
#23
Pacifista are way more robotic then seraphim, Seraphim are flesh and blood. Do you really think Oda would have children be mindless slaves the whole story when freedom is so important in one piece.
The Seraphim are just the continuation of the Pacifista project. Since they have Lunarian durability, we haven't seen their insides (like Pacifista Kuma on Thriller Bark). But they still have visible vats of green blood on their arms, and the letters PX on them, making them Pacifista
 
#26
Every living being has Haki. You're referring to the ability to use it.

Pacifista and the clones are living beings.

Again, which chapter said the Pacifista don't have Haki.
So we're nitpicking semantics now? Lol
That's like saying Woop Slap has haki. Ofc he has it in a technical semse, but when we talk about "having haki" we ofc mean using it/imbuing stuff with it/showing it.

And the Seraphim, as Pacifstas, don't
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Stussy is a clone and can use haki
Its clear the seraphims will to
Clone =/= cyborgs
 
#27
The Seraphim already show sign of emotion in the few chapters more than the pacifista ever had.

With the whole instinct overcoming science, there's a strong case for them having Haki.

Oda could just had made them completely expressionless like the pacifista, he didn't.
 
#29
What? My guy they are clones of the warlords like stussy they even have emotions
Its clear they gonna use haki eventually
They aren't clones, they are just built in the likeness of the warlords. With Lunarian traits added on to them
Just like pre TS pacifista were built with the likeness of Kuma. They weren't his clones.

Stussy meanwhile is a clone. It's a different technological process.

Germa 66 has a clone army. Vegapunk creates Pacifista.
 
#31
They aren't clones, they are just built in the likeness of the warlords. With Lunarian traits added on to them
Just like pre TS pacifista were built with the likeness of Kuma. They weren't his clones.

Stussy meanwhile is a clone. It's a different technological process.

Germa 66 has a clone army. Vegapunk creates Pacifista.
What pacifista has emotions? Dude stop the cap
 
#33
So we're nitpicking semantics now? Lol
That's like saying Woop Slap has haki. Ofc he has it in a technical semse, but when we talk about "having haki" we ofc mean using it/imbuing stuff with it/showing it.

And the Seraphim, as Pacifstas, don't
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Clone =/= cyborgs
Not semantics. My very first post says all living beings and that refers to what Rayleigh confirmed in 597.

Not gonna use absolutes here because I don't know yet. As I said in the initial post, all living beings have Haki. Until you provide a panel that confirms pacifista and clones aren't living beings, then they definitely do have Haki.

Just show the panel that confirm your absolute of the Seraphim and Pacifista not being users. Last I checked, that wasn't addressed.
 
#35
They aren't clones, they are just built in the likeness of the warlords. With Lunarian traits added on to them
Just like pre TS pacifista were built with the likeness of Kuma. They weren't his clones.

Stussy meanwhile is a clone. It's a different technological process.

Germa 66 has a clone army. Vegapunk creates Pacifista.
Pacifista don't get embarrassed like S-Snake, they don't get surprised and sweat like S-Hawk.
 
#36
I don’t think that’s likely. At face value his fruit is redundant since he has the DNA of the WSS. The best thing I can think of is that he can attack from all/unorthodox angles that would be difficult to counter.

Hopefully he can awaken his fruit so Oda can up the creativity
 
#39
At first i also thought that dice fruit would be redundant for s-hawk. But now that i think about it carefully it's actually really fitting.

We saw King use fire on his sword coated with haki, that would not be possible with s-hawk since we dont really know if he can use haki and also using fire on it without coating in haki would damage the sword.

Now here comes the usefulness of the df. Imagine s-hawk turns his body parts to blades, uses magma like flames to heat up those blades for ranged slashes as well as cqc combat. Since we know lunarians are resistant to their own flames, there won't be any kind of drawback/limitations to this.

I think this could be an extremely lethal combo and even without haki he could have damage output comparable to that with haki. Logias would be the only one that would be immune, all others are taking heavy damage from a clean hit.
 

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#40
Technically, you don't need to become a black blade yourself, you can just coat full body Armament on yourself like Vergo and Pica and you have a black blade body (although temporary).

But yeah, a black blade body would be useful than just dice dice fruit itself.
So S-Hawk will become fully black? No wonder it's a game changer for Zoro :vistalaugh:
Ayo.:vistalaugh::luffylaugh::rolaugh:
 
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