Speculations Perfect Example of Real Swordsmen VS Swordsmen..

[Rootbeer]

Zoro is a descendant of a swordsman of east blue 1st then of Ryuma. Your main argument for Hyo is that you claim that he doesn't consider himself a Samurai. So there also no proof that Zoro considers himself a Samurai not even his crew does.

Zoro follows the Bushido which a characteristic of the Samurai, he doesn't have to have the name to represent them..

That panel is weak Hyo speaking because he was already broken just like all the Samurai in Udon he was killed metaphorically. . If all the Samurai are dead then how come so many of them rose up.

You forgot the main point of Wano which is that the Samurai died off. And it happened again during Onigashima when Kaido killed Orochi he declared all the Samurai have been vanquished because the Samurai that followed Orochi have joined them. The scabbards

It's weak because you don't like it..

themselves are your proof in plain sight. They existed "Ashura" yet The land of Wano was a land of no Samurai. Now go tell me he was hiding as a thief. That will prove my point since Samurai takes pride in being one and when they don't that mean they are ashamed.

They were laying low, they were still Samurai..

As for your explanation for imbuing is base level of internal destruction. Is wrong how can base level of "internal" destruction only cuts the surface when the name is "internal" . Even your panel of Kaido is suggesting a "cut". Heck the main point of Scabbards vs Kaido was that they couldn't even open the wound itself that Oden gave him.

Meitos won't break from inside out, so they become saturated with Haki thus reaching the " Surface "..

Allow me to enlighten you , Your AVI character , himself considered Zoro a Good swordsman.

Bruh.. Kawamatsu is a Samurai.. Not a Yakuza..

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Zoro follows the Bushido which a characteristic of the Samurai, he doesn't have to have the name to represent them..


It's weak because you don't like it..




They were laying low, they were still Samurai..





Meitos won't break from inside out, so they become saturated with Haki thus reaching the " Surface "..

And Hyo does not follow the Bushido?

Its weak because there is no evidence even your reply here is weak since you have nothing to support it

If they are laying low then the Samurai have not been killed off and what Hyo meant was metaphorically. And that should include him since he even admits to Raizou that he given up and was waiting to die.

Meitos have nothing to do with anything here. The haki application used by all of Wano "Ryuo" is simply conveying their will to cut to their swords. Either change the name to something else and don't call it internal destruction or just give up .

Call it External destruction. The internal destruction is the next part that the only use we know of is Luffy's and Rayleigh's.

Speaking of Rayleigh is he on the WSS path or PK path? . Since he uses all types of Haki masterfully.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

This is all over the place.

1) A samurai isn't a swordsman but a warrior from the land of Wano who may or may not use a sword. We have a whole scene with Sheepshead stressing this fact plus we know samurai who aren't swordsmen, such as Raizou.

2) A yakuza is a mobster. Not only a samurai can be a yakuza but, ironically enough, real-life yakuza may have descended from masterless samurai who needed to find a new way of life.

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

This is all over the place.

1) A samurai isn't a swordsman but a warrior from the land of Wano who may or may not use a sword. We have a whole scene with Sheepshead stressing this fact plus we know samurai who aren't swordsmen, such as Raizou.

2) A yakuza is a mobster. Not only a samurai can be a yakuza but, ironically enough, real-life yakuza may have descended from masterless samurai who needed to find a new way of life.

Comon man don't ruin it. I am nitpicking this whole thread gradually .

And well said :cheers:

 

[Rootbeer]

And Hyo does not follow the Bushido?

He follows a Code of Ethics related specificly to the Yakuza way of life..

Its weak because there is no evidence even your reply here is weak since you have nothing to support it

The Evidence is that Hyougoro does not include himself when speaking of the Samurai..

Meitos have nothing to do with anything here. The haki application used by all of Wano "Ryuo" is simply conveying their will to cut to their swords. Either change the name to something else and don't call it internal destruction or just give up .

Ryuo is flowing Haki.. " Nagasu "..

Imbuing your Sword is putting CoA in you Blade, meaning Internal..

Speaking of Rayleigh is he on the WSS path or PK path? . Since he uses all types of Haki masterfully.

Yes Rayleigh does not follow the WSS path..

1) A samurai isn't a swordsman but a warrior from the land of Wano who may or may not use a sword. We have a whole scene with Sheepshead stressing this fact plus we know samurai who aren't swordsmen, such as Raizou.

A Samurai is a Warrior who typically uses the Blade as his main Weapon, a Swordsman..
They assumed Raizo is a Samurai, but he's a Ninja..

2) A yakuza is a mobster. Not only a samurai can be a yakuza but, ironically enough, real-life yakuza may have descended from masterless samurai who needed to find a new way of life.

Japanese may have descended from Chinese people migrating, it's irrelevant..

The Fact remains, Hyougoro does not consider himself a Samurai..

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

He follows a Code of Ethics related specificly to the Yakuza way of life..


The Evidence is that Hyougoro does not include himself when speaking of the Samurai..



Ryuo is flowing Haki.. " Nagasu "..

Imbuing your Sword is putting CoA in you Blade, meaning Internal..

Yes Rayleigh does not follow the WSS path..

Zoro also follows a code of ethics related to his life style as Swordsman. Zoro is ok with stealing and that is against what the Samurai stands for. But both Zoro and Hyo still walk the path of Bushido in some way. Hence why Hyo is respected by all the Samurai in Wano.

That is no evidence at all my man . You are only claiming nonsense to support your agenda here. You used a narrator box that states he is a Yakuza. But Yakuza are still considered a Samurai. And that panel of Hyo saying how all the Samurai have been killed off don't mean that they are dead. If you say they were laying low why won't you count Hyo as one laying low too? Didn't he lead all the Samurai later?

Zoro's Narrator box stated that he is a Ronin. If going by your logic here Zoro is not a Samurai too. If you know anything about Ronins then you know that they are leaning towards Yakuza more than a Samurai.

Imbuing your Swords is coating your CoA on your Blade. The blade becoming coated in hardening color which is black and the color is visible to us so its external. And the term is coating here go back to Mihawk panel teaching Zoro. There is no internal here at all.

 

[Rootbeer]

Zoro also follows a code of ethics related to his life style as Swordsman. Zoro is ok with stealing and that is against what the Samurai stands for. But both Zoro and Hyo still walk the path of Bushido in some way. Hence why Hyo is respected by all the Samurai in Wano.

That is no evidence at all my man . You are only claiming nonsense to support your agenda here. You used a narrator box that states he is a Yakuza. But Yakuza are still considered a Samurai. And that panel of Hyo saying how all the Samurai have been killed off don't mean that they are dead. If you say they were laying low why won't you count Hyo as one laying low too? Didn't he lead all the Samurai later?

Zoro's Narrator box stated that he is a Ronin. If going by your logic here Zoro is not a Samurai too. If you know anything about Ronins then you know that they are leaning towards Yakuza more than a Samurai.

Imbuing your Swords is coating your CoA on your Blade. The blade becoming coated in hardening color which is black and the color is visible to us so its external. And the term is coating here go back to Mihawk panel teaching Zoro. There is no internal here at all.

Vivi called Zoro Mr. Bushido many times, Chapter 1036 is Named after Zoro, Bushido is the way of Death..

Yakuza are not Samurai..
Becaue Hyougoro does not include himself in, he's saying " Them" ..
The Samurai respect Hyougoro because he's an Honorable man..

Bruh.. A Ronin is a Masterless Samurai..
Yakuza are Gang related..

Imbuing CoA is flowing Haki in your Sword.. Why are you so disingenuous..

 

[Salah WG]

"Never go Full Retard".

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Vivi called Zoro Mr. Bushido many times, Chapter 1036 is Named after Zoro, Bushido is the way of Death..

Yakuza are not Samurai..
Becaue Hyougoro does not include himself in, he's saying " Them" ..
The Samurai respect Hyougoro because he's an Honorable man..

Bruh.. A Ronin is a Masterless Samurai..
Yakuza are Gang related..

Imbuing CoA is flowing Haki in your Sword.. Why are you so disingenuous..

Ok Mr.Bushido does not mean Zoro is a Samurai tho. I still stand by my point in the previous reply.

Yakuza are still considered a Samurai because they still follow the Bushido. Some even call Yakuza Ronins who formed up a gang.

Ronins are Masterless Samurai but the term Ronin means 'drifter' or 'wanderer' And are only called that because they have no Master.
They can only be called a Samurai again when they serve a new Master. They follow the Bushido and are still considered a Samurai.

Please go educate your self about their culture 1st I bet you this the moment you ask Google the question about IF Yakuza are a Samurai you will be dumbfounded.

Its so simple man:-

Bushido is the Way of the Warrior anyone who follows it are considered a Warrior even if some of their morals are different they are all warriors and the name of The Warriors in Japan is "Samurai".

It does not matter if you are Drifter "Zoro" - Serving a Lord "Scabbards" - Bandit "Ashura Douji" - Yakuza "Hyo and Denjiro".

If you are Warrior in Japan/Wano you are a Samurai.



Dude i am saying imbuing your CoA is flowing your haki on your swords to coat it in armament Haki. I NEVER said its not the case. I am only saying you can't call that Internal destruction.. What do you mean i am disingenuous . Can't you read?

Do you need me to break it down in a simple way for you to understand?

 

[The White Crane]

Hyougoro is the perfect representation of that paradigm.. He's a Swordsman born and raise in Wano, the Land of the " Samurai "..

Yet Hyougoro does not consider himself a Samurai, when he refers to Samurais he excluded himself from the subject..

Hyougoro is specifically a " Yakuza " who is Also a Swordsman but Not a Samurai.. This means that not all Swordsmen from
Wano are Samurai..

This is the reason why He couldn't teach Luffy Internal Destruction CoA, his Limit is CoA Emission, he does not possess the ability to imbue
Ryuo in his Blade.. The Scabbards all can do it because the were able to make Kaido Bleed..

Internal Destruction CoA's base level is to Imbue your Sword in Haki..

Here we can see Hyougoro using CoA Emission in the Flames aroung his Body with his Hair just like Marigold in Amazon Lily..

So all This to say that Wano the Land of Samurai(Swordsmen), Swordsmen are not all Samurai..


Have a Thee!..

Wanted Taggers : @ConquistadoR @nik87

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

A Samurai is a Warrior who typically uses the Blade as his main Weapon, a Swordsman..
They assumed Raizo is a Samurai, but he's a Ninja..

Raizou is a ninja AND a samurai, this is again reminded throughout Wano. He's referred many times as a samurai since Zou, did people like Inuarashi, Yasuie, etc. wrongly assume Raizou is a samurai too or they do know what they're talking about?

You have no clue what you're talking about, simple as that.

 

[Rootbeer]

Raizou is a ninja AND a samurai, this is again reminded throughout Wano. He's referred many times as a samurai since Zou, did people like Inuarashi, Yasuie, etc. wrongly assume Raizou is a samurai too or they do know what they're talking about?

You have no clue what you're talking about, simple as that.

You want me to have no clue of What i'm talking about..

Show evidence of a Samurai refering to Raizo as a Samurai and you will have a point..
Until the Raizo is a Ninja.. He was introduced as a Ninja.. The Alliance specifically separated the Ninja and Samurai..
Calling it " The Ninja-Pirate-Mink-Samurai-Alliance..

Sorry that's not an argument..

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

This is the reason why He couldn't teach Luffy Internal Destruction CoA, his Limit is CoA Emission, he does not possess the ability to imbue
Ryuo in his Blade.. The Scabbards all can do it because the were able to make Kaido Bleed..

And this is where the logic stops.

So all This to say that Wano the Land of Samurai(Swordsmen), Swordsmen are not all Samurai..

You know the definition of samurai?
It's not swordsman

 

[NAMELESS]

Hyougoro is the perfect representation of that paradigm.. He's a Swordsman born and raise in Wano, the Land of the " Samurai "..

Yet Hyougoro does not consider himself a Samurai, when he refers to Samurais he excluded himself from the subject..

Hyougoro is specifically a " Yakuza " who is Also a Swordsman but Not a Samurai.. This means that not all Swordsmen from
Wano are Samurai..

This is the reason why He couldn't teach Luffy Internal Destruction CoA, his Limit is CoA Emission, he does not possess the ability to imbue
Ryuo in his Blade.. The Scabbards all can do it because the were able to make Kaido Bleed..

Internal Destruction CoA's base level is to Imbue your Sword in Haki..

Here we can see Hyougoro using CoA Emission in the Flames aroung his Body with his Hair just like Marigold in Amazon Lily..

So all This to say that Wano the Land of Samurai(Swordsmen), Swordsmen are not all Samurai..


Have a Thee!..

Wanted Taggers : @ConquistadoR @nik87

lol so wrong.Dressrosa Luffy could imbue his sandals with coa despite having no Ryo.You don't need emission to imbue stuff in haki.Kuja pirates can imbue their arrows too.
[automerge]1681600019[/automerge]

Don't care about what other people said, Rootbeer.

Just keep doing what you love blud.

you want to see him banned,don't you?

 

[Rootbeer]

And this is where the logic stops.


You know the definition of samurai?
It's not swordsman

Says who?..

Samurai are warriors who typically use a Sword to fight..
Fuji is a Swordsman and Samurai are not now?..

lol so wrong.Dressrosa Luffy could imbue his sandals with coa despite having no Ryo.You don't need emission to imbue stuff in haki.Kuja pirates can imbue their arrows too.
[automerge]1681600019[/automerge]

you want to see him banned,don't you?

Thus why Luffy could remove Hyou and His shackles unconciously..

 

[NAMELESS]

Says who?..

Samurai are warriors who typically use a Sword to fight..
Fuji is a Swordsman and Samurai are not now?..



Thus why Luffy could remove Hyou and His shackles unconciously..

No.Removing shackles is internal destruction.Its a step above Ryo.Dressrosa Luffy didn't know emission haki.

 

[HA001]

lol so wrong.Dressrosa Luffy could imbue his sandals with coa despite having no Ryo.You don't need emission to imbue stuff in haki.Kuja pirates can imbue their arrows too.
[automerge]1681600019[/automerge]

you want to see him banned,don't you?

Coating clothes isn't ryou.

 

[Rootbeer]

No.removing shackles is internal destruction.Its a step above Ryo.Dressrosa Luffy didn't know emission haki.

And he didn't know Future Sight either, yet he used it at Marineford..

 

[The White Crane]

Sorry that's not an argument..

I know it's not an argument that you were looking for attention. It's a fact.

 

[NAMELESS]

Coating clothes isn't ryou.

exactly,you don't need Ryo to imbue stuff in haki.

And he didn't know Future Sight either, yet he used it at Marineford..

you must be trolling.