Theory Phoning a Friend - The Return of Monet Prediction

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Disclaimer: This theory heavily relies on background knowledge discussed in several past theories and threads pertaining to Monet. As those theories are quite long, I have summarized the most key points of evidence with citations in the spoiler below. I've done what I can to make the current theory understandable on its own, but the information provided below may help clarify some points that I gloss over within this theory. If anything remains unclear, please let me know.

1. Monet is alive - though Caesar is shown stabbing Monet's heart and she is shown passing out (ch. 694, pgs. 12 and 13), we are also shown that the shrapnel her heart was stabbed with did not actually become embedded into her heart (ch. 695, pg. 5). Due to the deformation on her heart when it was being stabbed, we can infer that after making contact, Caesar's hand slipped, causing him to stab into the dock instead of actually piercing the heart before passing out. Though the anime version of this scene focuses on the shrapnel buried in the heart and the heart stopping, this is not at all how the event is portrayed in the manga and can easily be retconned to be what Caesar thought was happening. We already know from Law's heart being struck by Caesar that any impact to the heart is enough to knock someone out and cause them to spit up blood (ch. 675, pg. 11), so it's not hard to imagine that an already weakened Monet being stabbed so suddenly would pass out regardless of how serious the damage is.

2. Monet will join the Straw Hat Crew - just like Nami and Robin, Monet is the first female subordinate of a major enemy crew that the Straw Hats met in their respective sea (the Donquixote Pirates of the New World) who has a scholarly interest (astronomy, seen among her books in ch. 666, pg. 6) that might prove useful to Luffy in finding the One Piece (the moon is heavily implied to be an important factor in the world's history by the lunar city of Birka in ch. 470 and 472's cover pages) and is implied to be kinder than she initially appears (Monet is the one to suggest Law heal the convicts in ch. 666, pg. 6). Coupled with Luffy's love of snow and her surprisingly shy personality (Monet being weak to compliments in ch. 686, pg. 17) that would give a lot of opportunity for comedy with the crew, it's easy to see how she would fit in with the Straw Hats. If the Moon is indeed an important plot point, either because the Straw Hats will need to fly to it or use the lunar cycle as some kind of hint to finding the One Piece, Monet's knowledge of astronomy would likely prove a vital asset.

3. Monet has many lingering mysteries - despite being seen with her human arms multiple times, there is precisely one panel where she is shown with a tattoo that is suspiciously obscured by a speech bubble (ch.686, pg. 6), implying that the tattoo is of some significance, perhaps relating to a major pirate crew (seeming to resemble a Jolly Roger in profile). It is also never elaborated on why Monet asked Law to replace her limbs, only that she did in fact make the request (Vivre Card Databook). With the revelation that King's winged race is known as the Lunarians, implying a relationship with the Moon, the fact that Monet is interested in astronomy and deliberately chose to become a winged individual seems to imply some connection to or knowledge of the Lunarians. We still don't know what kind of life Doflamingo saved her from, it only being described as a "misfortunate environment" (vol. 77 SBS, pg. 116), so it's possible that a Lunarian was involved in her past and was killed by the people who gave Monet her tattoo. We also have yet to learn her real name, as all Donquixote Pirates save for Law used codenames, so it's possible that said Lunarian's name was Monet. In this scenario, Monet's real name may be something like Happy (Oda has a habit of naming background characters based on words he puts on their shirts, which in turn describe what they're saying in the scene, so naming Monet Happy because of the pun on Harpy on her shirt is not unprecedented), which would allow her to fit in with the long-standing Straw Hat Alphabet theory (the Straw Hats each represent a pair of letters in the alphabet, such as AB=Brook; Monet could not work because MN=Nami, but there are currently no GH, OP, or WX Straw Hats).

4. Monet will most likely reappear on Egghead - despite having a duty to protect Doflamingo's investment in the SAD, Monet prioritizes protecting the children, Big Mom's investment, from the Straw Hats and G-5. When Monet says she has to protect Caesar's experiments, it almost feels like a justification for choosing the children over the SAD (ch. 686, pg. 13). She refers to herself as the children's parent (ch. 686, pg. 14), she becomes enraged at the idea of the children being taken away (ch. 686, pgs. 15 and 17), and was still trusted by Mocha even after the truth about Caesar was revealed (ch. 683, pg. 10). This all implies that Monet felt attached to the children and treated them particularly well, possibly similarly to Promised Neverland's Isabella raising her doomed children as well as she could so that their short lives could at least be happy ones. As the children were brought to Egghead to be treated by Vegapunk (ch. 1061, pg. 9) and Monet didn't show up at Dressrosa to help Doflamingo, it's possible that she followed the children to Egghead and only later learned that Doflamingo had been defeated by Luffy when it was too late to do anything about it. Because of her unique characteristics, Monet was likely welcomed by Vegapunk as a volunteer test subject in exchange for safe haven and the ability to watch over the children. As Vergo is also believed dead and Smoker and Tashigi may want to maintain the illusion that he was an imposter (ch.682, pg. 5), it seems likely that Vergo's betrayal of the Marines was never reported, so if he survived as Monet did, he likely would have been able to charter a Marine ship to transport Monet to Egghead while himself focusing on finding a way to rescue Doflamingo from Impel Down. If Monet is affiliated with Vegapunk and a trip to the Moon is necessary for finding the One Piece, then Vegapunk's scientific advancements are the most likely way that she and the Straw Hats would be able to reach the Moon. Furthermore, if Monet's backstory is related to the Lunarians and her character is heavily based on her motherly qualities, it is quite likely that Monet may form a connection with the Seraphim children, particularly S-Flamingo who resembles her former master.

Introduction

Hello, everyone!

Gosh, it's been about a year and a half since I last posted a theory. Approaching the end of the series and having questions be answered left and right doesn't really leave much room for theorizing, at least not the way I do it. As I'm sure you've noticed, I prefer to make broader, long-term predictions of where the story is approximately heading based on previously established patterns or hints rather than trying to predict the immediate next chapter. I've been burned in the past when I tried something like that back during Whole Cake Island only for it to turn out that the chapter had already leaked and people treated it like I'd just deliberately ignored the details of a chapter I hadn't even read yet. So that was fun.

However, 1072 isn't set to come out for another week and a half, so I'm...reasonably sure that it hasn't leaked yet. ...Right? If it has, please be respectful and keep it to yourself, I don't want to see anything about it until I can at least read the fan translation.

Anyway, 1071 sees Vegapunk and the Straw Hats planning their egress from Egghead as CP0 invades and takes possession of the Seraphim. With all ships other than the Sunny destroyed and all paths blocked off, combat seems inevitable. Vegapunk laments the loss of Sentomaru, and Pythagoras suggests the possibility of enlisting the help of their last remaining ally on Egghead. Edison objects, as definitively siding with Vegapunk in this instance would result in this person being labeled an enemy of the government, forcing them from their home. Naturally, Vegapunk immediately and shamelessly asks for help, much to his offshoots' surprise.


The person on the other side of the call naturally agrees without hesitation, claiming that they've actually been waiting for the order. So the question now is who this mystery voice belongs to.

Who could it possibly b- Monet. It's Monet. You all know I'm going to say it's Monet. No sense in beating around the bush.

Evidence

As you may recall from my Grand Monet Theory, I suggested that Monet would reappear in the at-the-time-unnamed Vegapunk arc either as an assistant or just hanging around in secret. Whatever role she would play, the basis of my theory was that she followed the gigantified children from Punk Hazard, and who did we see at the G-14 naval base the next island over from Egghead at the very beginning of this arc in 1061? That's right, the children, taking anti-gigantification medicine.


Aww, look, they're even in a room with the same wallpaper as the Biscuits Room! I'm sure that's not traumatic for them or anything.

I may have said that the Straw Hats would deliberately go to see Vegapunk because of Momo's "failed" cloned Fish-Fish Fruit or because they were looking for a cure for SMILEs, but I was just trying to think of reasons for them to go to Egghead from Wano and didn't want to suggest that they'd just happen to go that way. Guess that was just me trying too hard to justify it when it turns out all I needed was the narrative motivation of introducing Vegapunk in the first place.

So the children are confirmed to have been delivered to and are receiving treatment from Vegapunk, just as I said they would, and the Straw Hats (and Bonney) have arrived at Egghead to meet (and in Bonney's case, confront) Vegapunk, just as I said they would. Vegapunk being seven people was a bit of a surprise, and sadly it looks like the focus of this arc is quite definitively not a space race as I'd hoped, but it's interesting that Vegapunk's Satellites are all named after asteroids, implying that there will be some kind of connection between Vegapunk in space. This is further compounded by the existence of the Automata in Vegapunk's home island of Karakuri as well as on the Moon, but we're not here to discuss whether or not the crew will be going to the Moon, we're here to discuss if the person he's calling for help from is Monet.

There isn't a whole lot to go on from just this one panel, but there isn't nothing to go on, either. Not to belabor a point, but the fact that the setup for the general scenario I predicted has come to pass is a pretty good argument in and of itself, but there's also information to be gleaned both from what we are and are not shown.

Within the panel itself, we're shown Vegapunk calling someone on a Den Den Mushi, and said person responding "I've been waiting for your order." Now, would you happen to recall what was happening the last time we saw Monet? In 693, she was receiving a call from Doflamingo, who was about to order her to sacrifice herself, only for her to reveal that she was way ahead of him and had been prepared to do exactly that for some time.


Even in her last confirmed living panel in 694, Doflamingo is still on the line, desperately calling for a response from her.


How fitting then that, if Monet's last panel had her unable to answer a call, her reappearance be marked with her answering the call of someone more worthy of her loyalty?

Don't forget, helping Vegapunk in this moment is a choice of great sacrifice; whatever life this person has on Egghead will be forfeit the moment that they show they are on Vegapunk's side. For someone to so instantly decide and have long since been prepared to make the decision that their livelihood was worth giving up for Vegapunk, they must be extremely loyal to him already. Just as Sentomaru's life was apparently saved by Vegapunk, this person must have a similar reason to feel indebted to him, and Monet's attachment to the children is a perfect vehicle for that sort of loyalty to be born. It's also possible that Vegapunk saved Monet's life too by doing something with her heart, but I think that would be a less interesting motivating factor for Monet.

It's also quite telling that we don't see the Den Den Mushi's eyes, as they are covered by the person's speech bubble. For those who haven't noticed, Den Den Mushi change shape to mimic the person whose voice they're projecting, as we're reminded of later in this chapter with Garp's bearded and bushy-browed Den Den Mushi.


If it were a character we've never met, there'd be no reason to obscure the eyes, and in fact having the eyes be visible or even just a silhouette would be a good way to hype up this new character. Therefore, it is most likely a returning character. If we were to see the Den Den Mushi's eyes, I imagine we would either see Monet's characteristic eyelashes or her coke-bottle glasses, either of which would have been a pretty good giveaway.

Also, it doesn't really carry in the English translation, but the voice apparently speaks very politely, which is definitely how I would expect Monet to talk to someone who she considers her benefactor. I'll admit, I haven't read the original Japanese for Monet's dialogue so I'm not sure if this is consistent with how she talks, but I at least get the impression from how she's translated that this could easily be the case.

There's also one more detail I think that's worth noting: the timing.

Monet supposedly died in chapter 694, which first premiered on January 4th of 2013. Chapter 1071, meanwhile, premiered on January 7th of 2023, as close to exactly ten years following Monet's death as a weekly magazine could allow. Even better, 1072 is set to premiere on January 22nd, ten years after 695's premiere on January 21st. Chapter 695 was the origin of the panel that sparked this entire controversy in the first place: Monet's unstabbed heart.


Would it not be amazing timing for the mystery of Monet to be settled exactly at the ten-year mark? And during the Year of the Rabbit, too! Perhaps her Snow Rabbits attack was foreshadowing in and of itself too, huh?


I don't know if I'm necessarily willing to believe that was on purpose, but I am willing to believe that Oda noticed the opportunity and decided to jump on it.

As a final note, I will remind everyone of an old Oda quote that went around several years ago but seems to have subsided as of late. In an interview with the China Times in 2014, Oda said, and I quote, “There’s going to be more (crewmates) appearing successively!” We just got Jinbe at the end of Wano and did not see Carrot, Yamato, Tama, or anyone else join, so the only way to really interpret successively at this point is "in the arc after Jinbe joins." As it happens, we are in the arc after Jinbe's official recruitment, and the puzzle pieces have lined up quite well with my predictions from two years ago.

Alternatives

I've seen some people suggest that the mystery individual is Kuma with his mind implanted in a new body, but that doesn't really make sense with Edison's objection. If the original Kuma is on the island, "siding with Vegapunk" is not the reason that the World Government would label him an enemy. While the idea of Kuma being on the island is interesting and makes sense conceptually, the context that we're learning of this doesn't really seem to line up.

Similarly, Scopper Gaban seems to be a common prediction, but seriously, the man was a Roger Pirate. Even if he's undercover, the concern wouldn't be siding with Vegapunk, but revealing his location to the Marines. Monet, though? I'm not sure the Marines even know she exists. She was an undercover agent for the Donquixote Pirates, the whole point of her was that she wasn't known to anybody so she could infiltrate other organizations. We know for a fact that Doflamingo was able to cover up his infiltrators quite well, as Vergo was able to slip into the Marines themselves without suspicion despite how lauded the Marines' information network has been across the series. It's not hard to imagine that, as far as Vegapunk is concerned, Monet is just a citizen with a weird, interesting body, whereas there's no way in hell he wouldn't know who Scopper Gaban of the Roger Pirates is.

Artur of the Library of Ohara suggested on twitter that it may be Stussy, which is definitely possible since she was apparently a member of MADS, but I just don't get the impression that she would have been able to answer a Den Den Mushi and talk to Vegapunk while standing right next to Lucci.

Between the three of them, Kuma and Stussy seem like the most likely to talk politely to Vegapunk, but Gaban and Kuma are the only ones I could see having an immediately recognizable Den Den Mushi with Gaban's sunglasses or Kuma's bear ears. Again, though, only Monet has both of those aspects while also having any reason to fear being chased by the World Government considering that she has lost the support of her original crew and isn't a strong enough fighter to survive independently. With all of the factors at our disposal, I just can't justify thinking that this person is any of the people I've seen suggested other than Monet.

Of course I acknowledge the possibility that I'm wrong, but Oda has never given me better reason to think that I might actually be right, and I would be a fool to ignore this opportunity to forever cement my legacy as The Monet Guy. And if I am wrong, well, then at least I was on brand to the end.

In the time since I first posted this theory, ch. 1072 has come and gone, and Stussy has in fact betrayed CP0 by first knocking out Kaku with a sneak attack and now has her sights set on Lucci.


We learn that Stussy is actually a clone of former Rocks Pirate Miss Buckingham Stussy (easily the most surprising way Oda could have confirmed that Miss Buckin/Bakkin was in fact a Rocks Pirate as many had theorized), and that she was created by MADS, explaining why she stated she "[hadn't] been [to Egghead] in ages" in ch.1068. This would strongly suggest that she was in fact the one that Vegapunk called, as this establishes a very clear relationship between the two of them.

I acknowledge that Monet's chances for returning in this instance have now dramatically slimmed, but they have not been reduced to zero quite yet. Notably, we have not yet learned Stussy's motivations for her actions here, so there's any number of reasons why she could be betraying Lucci.

Being the clone of a Rocks Pirate, she could just as easily be associated with Blackbeard, who has taken up residence at the former headquarters of the Rocks Pirates. Perhaps she's trying to capture Vegapunk to bring his technology to Blackbeard rather than to leave it in the hands of the World Government?

Or maybe she's working for the Revolutionaries and is legitimately trying to save Vegapunk independently of Vegapunk asking her to do so? She already works undercover as one of the heads of the criminal underworld for CP0, it wouldn't be odd for her to be undercover as a member of CP0 for the Revolutionaries to undermine the World Government from within.

Also, the events of this chapter don't really seem to line up with the idea that she's explicitly Vegapunk's ally. Not only did Stussy do nothing to prevent the Seraphim from destroying the lab on Lucci's order, which could easily have gotten Vegapunk killed and thus causing her to fail in that particular mission...


...but Shaka still seems to consider Stussy a threat.


At first, Nami and Usopp assume that Zoro and Brook only have to fend off Lucci, Kaku and Stussy, claiming it to be a 2-on-3 match-up, but Shaka notes that "the odds are worse than that" as the Seraphim arrive. When the group changes their estimation to 2-on-7, Shaka doesn't correct them by saying that it's 3-on-6, and instead focuses on sending Edison and Lilith to overtake CP0's priority in the Seraphim's chain of command to turn the tide. If Stussy were on Vegapunk's side, Shaka would presumably consider her an asset that would offset Lucci's priority and at least bring the Seraphim to a halt with conflicting orders of the same priority. The fact that Shaka does not take Stussy's allegiance into consideration when assessing the situation suggests that it wasn't a factor he was aware of.

Of course, this could just be Oda not wanting to give the game away early, but I don't think he would have any of the Vegapunks completely ignore such an obvious piece on the board. Furthermore, Oda does have a tendency to use misdirects like this, giving us information that seems to fit one scenario only to reveal another entirely. For example, at the start of the chapter, we see a narration from Vegapunk chronicling the artificial creation of a human life.


By the end of the chapter, we learn that Stussy is the first successful clone created by MADS, so naturally, we would conclude that the "undeniable human being" that MADS has created and that people might disagree with the creation of is Stussy. However, as we move on from that narration, who do we see? Bonney, reverting to her child form and crying on the floor in the fetal position.

The imagery of a child crying while we learn of a controversial way for a human to be brought into the world? That really feels like the narration is meant to refer to her. Admittedly, I actually spent the first half of the chapter thinking this only to turn around once we learned that Stussy was a clone, but I think that it's actually a double-fake. We were supposed to think that it wasn't actually referring to Bonney, when in fact it was! I won't go into it since it's not my theory, but Artur's theory that Bonney is actually a clone of Big Mom could well back up this point.

If Stussy is meant to be a red herring for Bonney, I wouldn't be surprised if she's also meant to be a red herring for Monet as well. I imagine that 1073 will settle this quickly, as we'll most likely get Stussy's motivations within that chapter, but at the time of writing this that chapter hasn't come out yet, so I can hold out hope at least a few more days.

So now, possibly for the last time...

Let's Review

Monet was last seen speaking over a Den Den Mushi with Doflamingo, who was asking her to sacrifice herself for him, and now, exactly ten years later, Vegapunk is calling someone with a very similar request and received a similar response. The Den Den Mushi's features are obscured, thus obscuring the features of the person on the other end, which implies that the features would be recognizable, such as Monet's glasses or eyelashes.

Characters like Scopper Gaban, Kuma's consciousness, and even Stussy have been suggested as possibilities for who the voice belongs to, but neither Gaban nor Kuma would actually be sacrificing anything to make the Marines their enemies as they are already considered criminals, and Stussy doesn't seem to have the opportunity to be the one speaking to Vegapunk. The revelation that Stussy is a MADS-created clone and her betrayal of CP0 seem to imply that she is Vegapunk's ally, but the way that Shaka treats the situation and Stussy's inaction at the destruction of the lab both imply that this is a red herring and Stussy may have other motivations.

It was previously predicted that Monet would be on Vegapunk's island because of the Punk Hazard children, who were seen at the very beginning of this arc, almost as if to remind us of the events of Punk Hazard and to prime us for Monet's return. If Monet truly did follow the children out of a sense of duty or love towards them, then it would be natural for Monet to feel the same type of loyalty towards Vegapunk that prompted her to sacrifice herself for Doflamingo all those years ago (or months, in context).

Final Thoughts

I know I said last time that my theory days were likely over, but I never anticipated at the time that Monet's return would have such a clear tease; I expected her to just kind of show up out of the blue, either being the one to save the Straw Hats from a threat the way that Lilith did in 1061 or to just be waiting behind a door with no build up. Honestly the main prediction that I seem to have gotten right was that I'd be wrong about the specifics and that the final product would be much better executed than I could anticipate. I never would have imagined that one single panel would build this much suspense for me, and that's certainly not an effect that I'd ever have been able to write myself.

I will say that while I am wholeheartedly placing my bets on 1072, it's not as if I'm not hedging my bets at all. As some of you may have seen recently, I posted that I've made a bit of a wager with myself: I am giving Monet until the end of the year to return, regardless of how Egghead turns out. If Monet returns at any point this year, then from that month on, I will be creating monthly outfit designs based on what I think Monet would have worn in any given arc had she joined the Straw Hats from the very beginning until the final arc, possibly including special sets like certain color pages and the Film series along the way. If by 2024 Monet has not returned or the final chapter of 2023 doesn't give any indication that she might return, then I will officially accept Monet's death and publicly post a eulogy for her as a sort of funeral. Considering how close we are to the end of the series, I have trouble seeing how she could return and make a meaningful impact on the story past this year, as I imagine 2024 will see the Straw Hats entering one of the two major final confrontations against either the Marines or Blackbeard. I'll likely still have hope in my heart, but I won't live in denial. At that point the best we could hope for is to see Monet in a background scene, but the Straw Hats entering the final battle without her seems like it'd be pretty undeniable confirmation that she's not going to be a part of it.

Regardless of whether Monet will come back in 1072, by the end of 2023, or not at all, the Knock-Up Stream is coming, my friends. Will I make it to the White Sea, or will I come crashing back down to the Blue? It won't be much longer until we know for sure, but either way, I've made my choice and I'm going to sail until I find my answer.

See you all at Sky Island,

-Tokiro Oumaga
 
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Would you care to elaborate on that?
I dont see possibility of monet coming back . Vegapunk probably knows this person and that person has good history with cipher pol thats why he had confidence they will handle rob lucci and co.

Monet unfortunately is not the person , even if she appear why would she help Vegapunk ?? Her loyalty lies with doflamingo .

I still think the person is kuma his original body is in egg head he will make appearance soon.
 
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I dont see possibility of monet coming back . Vegapunk probably knows this person and that person has good history with cipher pol thats why he had confidence they will handle rob lucci and co.

Monet unfortunately is not the person , even if she appear why would she help Vegapunk ?? Her loyalty lies with doflamingo .

I still think the person is kuma his original body is in egg head he will make appearance soon.
I originally explained why I believed Monet would be helping Vegapunk in my Grand Monet Theory, so I didn't think it would be necessary to go into explicit detail here so long as I linked directly to the theory in question, but in retrospect I can see why that wouldn't be helpful for people who hadn't read my original theory. I apologize if my stance doesn't seem well-developed because of that.

Obviously I'm not going to repost the entire theory, so I'm still going to try to summarize the relevant sections from it while taking into account any new information we've learned since then. If you want to read the relevant sections, they can be found here (ch. 1.07) and here (ch. 2.01).

Basically, because of the way that Monet tended to treat people (she was the one to suggest that Law heal the paraplegic convicts even though they were already loyal to Caesar, she derided Caesar for sacrificing his own men, she convinced Doflamingo to recruit Viola instead of killing her, etc.) it seems likely that Monet is kinder than we would expect a villain to be. Also, even after Mocha learns the truth that Caesar was drugging the children, she still trusts Monet, implying that Monet's treatment of the children had been particularly caring.

Monet's specific directive from Doflamingo was to "protect Caesar and his experiments," (ch. 686) which was meant to protect his investment in the SAD and SMILEs. And yet, when the Straw Hats started attacking the lab and Monet explicitly stated that she figured out their plan in ch. 681, she decided instead to protect the children. Doflamingo definitely has no interest in the Gigantification project, and even if something happened to them, so long as the SAD was still available, Kaido should still be available to protect Caesar from Big Mom. We saw in ch. 730 that Big Mom only came after Caesar because he'd been captured by the Straw Hats and likely would have left everything as is had everything resolved in Caesar's favor, so that's not likely to be something that Monet was worried about in the moment.

She also talks about the children in a way that implies she feels attached to them; in ch. 686, she refers to herself as the childrens' parent, flies into a rage specifically because the G-5 Marines are trying to "take away the children," and claims to have "given them a life in which they want for nothing," which we know is true because of how much they trusted her. Don't forget, the children only wanted to leave Punk Hazard because they were homesick, not because they were suspicious about Caesar's intentions or because they were being abused (ch. 657). This all implies that Monet does in fact view herself as a mother figure to the children.

If this is true, then it explains well why Monet hasn't reappeared since Punk Hazard; when the children were being taken to Egghead for anti-Gigantification treatment from Vegapunk, Monet chose to follow them instead of trying to retrieve Caesar from the Straw Hats. Whether it was because she assumed Doflamingo wouldn't need her help defeating Luffy and Law, because she hadn't heard he'd already been defeated within a day or so of the Punk Hazard incident, or because she found out he'd been defeated and prioritized the children over fighting the World Government to save him is yet to be determined, but the former two both give perfectly serviceable explanations as to why her loyalty to Doflamingo isn't a factor here.

Once on Egghead, it's very likely that Monet would be of great interest to Vegapunk as a benefactor of the Op-Op Fruit's reconstructive powers; what impact does having one's body parts replaced have on their Lineage Factors? Does the body rewrite itself to recognize the new parts, or are they just slapped together like building blocks? Are there long-term implications and a possibility of rejection? If the Lineage Factors are incorporated, would a child or clone retain those traits? There's so much knowledge to be gained from Monet just by virtue of undergoing an Op-Op operation, to say nothing of her having a Logia fruit, a rare research specimen.

Monet would most likely have become loyal to Vegapunk because he saved the children from their impending deaths, but possibly also because he allows her to be with or monitor them while avoiding detection from the Marines. Gratitude is often a huge motivating factor in One Piece, such as the convicts and Brownbeard Pirates swearing loyalty to Caesar for "saving" them, so it's not hard to see such a simple thing as saving the children earning Monet's loyalty.

I don't personally interpret the phone call as being between two people who are necessarily on friendly terms; Vegapunk just seems like the kind of guy who would flippantly ask someone to put themselves at risk for him anyway (remember how casually he brought up that Sentomaru owed him his life in 1069), and the person on the other end seemed like someone who owed Vegapunk a favor and always knew it might cost them their life

As for fighting off CP0, I don't think the intention is for the person being called to defeat them, just to help hold them off. As you may recall, Monet was quite skilled at stalling and defensive tactics in her fight with Luffy (ch. 681 & 683, particularly her Kamakura barrier techniques). In fact, that'd make for a pretty clear parallel; Monet fought off Luffy to help Caesar escape back then, so now she'd be fighting off CP0 to help Vegapunk, an objectively better scientist, escape now.

Even when they're making their getaway, I would expect Monet to whip up a snowstorm to make following the Straw Hats more difficult; naturally, such a thing wouldn't impede Nami's navigation and Jinbe's helmsman abilities nearly as much as the Marine ships. I imagine Kizaru's lights could help him navigate, but if he's by himself against the Straw Hats, I'm pretty sure they'd be able to take him now that they're a Yonko-level crew.

I hope this makes my logic clearer, and again, sorry for relying on the assumption that people would be familiar with my previous work. Ironically, the purpose of the Grand Monet theory was to have all of the relevant information in one place, but now a lot of it's sadly outdated and the new information requires that the old be reworked. Nothing much to be done about it now, I'm afraid.
 
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Monet is dead. We don’t need to see her ashes to come to that conclusion.

More fakeout deaths will further ruin the story. Either kill off characters when implied or don’t.


You may not need to see her ashes, but I need an explanation as to why Oda drew this panel the way he did, and thus far none of you have been able to give me something even close to a convincing answer.

Every single one of you just says "she's dead" and leaves it at that. None of you put in any effort to actually convince anyone. I don't know if it's because you know you have nothing worthwhile to say or because you're just trying to be a contrarian, but you need to meet people halfway if you want them to put any stock in what you have to say.

I'm sorry to make an example out of you specifically, but this goes out to everyone who so thoughtlessly makes these comments. Either make a real effort or at least stop making yourselves look bad by trying to tear someone else down.
 
#10
it's "the man with the burn scar" that kidd mentioned. The den den mushi was all scarred up. I think that guy is saul, who got burned on Ohara when he was partially melted and couldn't move.
Vegapunk did say that Saul was in hiding, so it's not too far-fetched to think that Vegapunk is the one hiding him, but I have a hard time believing that he'd be hiding on a World Government island, even if it is under the supervision of someone with his best interest at heart. I'm much more inclined to believe that Saul is on Elbaf, a specifically non-Government affiliated island.

Monet, on the other hand, may be a pirate, but she's a pirate that, again, the World Government has never heard of. Maybe Smoker and Tashigi included her in their report, but it's also not hard to believe that Oda isn't too concerned about including bureaucracy like that, so I could see it being justified as "we didn't think it was important to report it" or some silly reason.
 
#11


You may not need to see her ashes, but I need an explanation as to why Oda drew this panel the way he did, and thus far none of you have been able to give me something even close to a convincing answer.

Every single one of you just says "she's dead" and leaves it at that. None of you put in any effort to actually convince anyone. I don't know if it's because you know you have nothing worthwhile to say or because you're just trying to be a contrarian, but you need to meet people halfway if you want them to put any stock in what you have to say.

I'm sorry to make an example out of you specifically, but this goes out to everyone who so thoughtlessly makes these comments. Either make a real effort or at least stop making yourselves look bad by trying to tear someone else down.
Now that I think about it, wasn’t Monet’s heart stabbed by Caesar because he thought it was Smoker’s? How can you live without a functioning heart? It seems like the most obvious death to me.

I can’t tell you what you haven’t already heard. How can you convince someone that a character is almost certainly dead without showing whatever remains of them? Oda showed Ace’s body and some people still think he could come back. It’s simply wishful thinking.

If Monet comes back, she would need more of a purpose than to be a plot device. I don’t want characters coming back for a few panels just to do something.

She’s dead considering what we saw. That’s all I can say about it. I’m not gonna pretend otherwise for your satisfaction.
 
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#12
Now that I think about it, wasn’t Monet’s heart stabbed by Caesar because he thought it was Smoker’s? How can you live without a heart? It seems like the most obvious death to me.

I can’t tell you what you haven’t already heard. How can you convince someone that a character is almost certainly dead without showing whatever remains of them? Oda showed Ace’s body and some people still think he could come back. It’s simply wishful thinking.

If Monet comes back, she would need more of a purpose than to be a plot device. I don’t want characters coming back for a few panels just to do something.

She’s dead considering what we saw. That’s all I can say about it. I’m not gonna pretend otherwise for your satisfaction.
If seeing Monet's heart unstabbed doesn't convince you that Oda has the intention to bring her back, there's really nothing more to say. I can't argue with people who willfully ignore what the author goes out of his way to show us. I've already explained what her purpose would be in explicit detail in the past, and even if I'm wrong about the specifics, Oda has already brought back no fewer than five characters, so why on Earth wouldn't he do it again?

I'm willing to admit that I'm wrong if I'm proven wrong, but I haven't been given any actual evidence to the contrary. On the other hand, no matter how much evidence I show any of you, you stubbornly refuse to accept that there's even a slight possibility that you're wrong.

I know if it turns out I'm wrong, I'll be sad, but I'll still enjoy the story. If it turns out you're wrong, how will you react?
 
#13
Monet is alive :finally:
But I don't think it would be her. Few things should occur for it too I would say.
1 => I expect sugar to be with her too. The unknown person is willing to help vegapunk. So he must have done something for which she is indebted.
2. => She is not really that big of a threat that she has to go into such hiding.
3. => I don't see how Vegapunk will try to rely on her at all. She is weak.
 
#14
If seeing Monet's heart unstabbed doesn't convince you that Oda has the intention to bring her back, there's really nothing more to say. I can't argue with people who willfully ignore what the author goes out of his way to show us. I've already explained what her purpose would be in explicit detail in the past, and even if I'm wrong about the specifics, Oda has already brought back no fewer than five characters, so why on Earth wouldn't he do it again?

I'm willing to admit that I'm wrong if I'm proven wrong, but I haven't been given any actual evidence to the contrary. On the other hand, no matter how much evidence I show any of you, you stubbornly refuse to accept that there's even a slight possibility that you're wrong.

I know if it turns out I'm wrong, I'll be sad, but I'll still enjoy the story. If it turns out you're wrong, how will you react?

Caesar is shown lying on the ground with “Smoker’s” heart next to him. Caesar is shown laughing with a blade in his hand, shouting his name.

The room is crumbling to the ground. Monet is shown accepting her fate as she stands in front of the detonator. The screen fades out, only to come back to show Monet with a pained expression on her face.

Her wing on the button, she grabs her chest as she struggles to deal with what is happening. Doflamingo is listening in and wondering what the silence is for, calling her name. Monet falls to the floor.

Caesar is shown again holding the knife that he stuck into what he thought was Smoker’s heart. Blood is shown leaking out of it as Caesar says goodbye to Smoker, unaware of his mistake.

The speaker dangles back and forth. Doflamingo asks Monet what happened as she moves her eyes toward the Den Den Mushi, referring to him as “Young Master”. The speaker dangles slower and slower until it stops completely, signifying her death.

To bring a character back after such a well written death like this would only be an insult to them. If she didn’t die from the heart puncture, then she would’ve died from the room collapsing. She is loyal to Doflamingo, and only to him.

If it’s revealed to be her on the other side, then I will wear a Monet avatar for an entire month. That’s how serious I am.
 
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Caesar is shown lying on the ground with “Smoker’s” heart next to him. Caesar is shown laughing with a blade in his hand, shouting his name.

The room is crumbling to the ground. Monet is shown accepting her fate as she stands in front of the detonator. The screen fades out, only to come back to show Monet with a pained expression on her face.

Her wing on the button, she grabs her chest as she struggles to deal with what is happening. Doflamingo is listening in and wondering what the silence is for, calling her name. Monet falls to the floor.

Caesar is shown again holding the knife that he stuck into what he thought was Smoker’s heart. Blood is shown leaking out of it as Caesar says goodbye to Smoker, unaware of his mistake.

The speaker dangles back and forth. Doflamingo asks Monet what happened as she moves her eyes toward the Den Den Mushi, referring to him as “Young Master”. The speaker dangles slower and slower until it stops completely, signifying her death.

To bring a character back after such a well written death like this would only be an insult to them. If she didn’t die from the heart puncture, then she would’ve died from the room collapsing. She is loyal to Doflamingo, and only to him.

If it’s revealed to be her on the other side, then I will wear a Monet avatar for an entire month. That’s how serious I am.
Having a day away from my computer, I realize that I've been unnecessarily rude towards you and owe you an apology. I should have realized it when you said you didn't want Monet to "come back for a few panels," and now that you're using that particular clip from the anime in your argument, it has become abundantly clear that I've been approaching the conversation entirely in bad faith. I was assuming that you were already familiar with all of the past conversations and theories, a mistake I already noted I had made earlier in this very thread.

I've had this conversation with multiple people over the years, so from my perspective, all of the information that I've accrued is already rote and I've come to assume that all of it is common knowledge. I think it's evident from my approach in writing the theory itself that I was writing toward an audience already familiar with my past work rather than toward a new audience, and that was, in retrospect, a mistake. I've overestimated both my and the Monet theory's reputation, and in doing so I've inadvertently cast you as the representative of every anti-Monet fan, a role you never asked to play and certainly were not prepared for.

I accused you of not meeting me halfway because so many others have done that in the past, but by lumping you in with them and refusing to elaborate on the information you expressed you didn't have, I was in fact the one not meeting you halfway and likely have made this encounter as frustrating for you as others have been for me. Please, accept my heartfelt apology, and if you are willing to hear it now, I will provide as brief a summary of the background assumptions necessary for understanding this particular theory as I am able. I understand if you are not interested after this experience, but if nothing else, please know that going forward you have inspired a more considerate change in my approach.

1. Monet is alive - though Caesar is shown stabbing Monet's heart and she is shown passing out (ch. 694, pgs. 12 and 13), we are also shown that the shrapnel her heart was stabbed with did not actually become embedded into her heart (ch. 695, pg. 5). Due to the deformation on her heart when it was being stabbed, we can infer that after making contact, Caesar's hand slipped, causing him to stab into the dock instead of actually piercing the heart before passing out. Though the anime version of this scene focuses on the shrapnel buried in the heart and the heart stopping, this is not at all how the event is portrayed in the manga and can easily be retconned to be what Caesar thought was happening. We already know from Law's heart being struck by Caesar that any impact to the heart is enough to knock someone out and cause them to spit up blood (ch. 675, pg. 11), so it's not hard to imagine that an already weakened Monet being stabbed so suddenly would pass out regardless of how serious the damage is.

2. Monet will join the Straw Hat Crew - just like Nami and Robin, Monet is the first female subordinate of a major enemy crew that the Straw Hats met in their respective sea (the Donquixote Pirates of the New World) who has a scholarly interest (astronomy, seen among her books in ch. 666, pg. 6) that might prove useful to Luffy in finding the One Piece (the moon is heavily implied to be an important factor in the world's history by the lunar city of Birka in ch. 470 and 472's cover pages) and is implied to be kinder than she initially appears (Monet is the one to suggest Law heal the convicts in ch. 666, pg. 6). Coupled with Luffy's love of snow and her surprisingly shy personality (Monet being weak to compliments in ch. 686, pg. 17) that would give a lot of opportunity for comedy with the crew, it's easy to see how she would fit in with the Straw Hats. If the Moon is indeed an important plot point, either because the Straw Hats will need to fly to it or use the lunar cycle as some kind of hint to finding the One Piece, Monet's knowledge of astronomy would likely prove a vital asset.

3. Monet has many lingering mysteries - despite being seen with her human arms multiple times, there is precisely one panel where she is shown with a tattoo that is suspiciously obscured by a speech bubble (ch.686, pg. 6), implying that the tattoo is of some significance, perhaps relating to a major pirate crew (seeming to resemble a Jolly Roger in profile). It is also never elaborated on why Monet asked Law to replace her limbs, only that she did in fact make the request (Vivre Card Databook). With the revelation that King's winged race is known as the Lunarians, implying a relationship with the Moon, the fact that Monet is interested in astronomy and deliberately chose to become a winged individual seems to imply some connection to or knowledge of the Lunarians. We still don't know what kind of life Doflamingo saved her from, it only being described as a "misfortunate environment" (vol. 77 SBS, pg. 116), so it's possible that a Lunarian was involved in her past and was killed by the people who gave Monet her tattoo. We also have yet to learn her real name, as all Donquixote Pirates save for Law used codenames, so it's possible that said Lunarian's name was Monet. In this scenario, Monet's real name may be something like Happy (Oda has a habit of naming background characters based on words he puts on their shirts, which in turn describe what they're saying in the scene, so naming Monet Happy because of the pun on Harpy on her shirt is not unprecedented), which would allow her to fit in with the long-standing Straw Hat Alphabet theory (the Straw Hats each represent a pair of letters in the alphabet, such as AB=Brook; Monet could not work because MN=Nami, but there are currently no GH, OP, or WX Straw Hats).

4. Monet will most likely reappear on Egghead - despite having a duty to protect Doflamingo's investment in the SAD, Monet prioritizes protecting the children, Big Mom's investment, from the Straw Hats and G-5. When Monet says she has to protect Caesar's experiments, it almost feels like a justification for choosing the children over the SAD (ch. 686, pg. 13). She refers to herself as the children's parent (ch. 686, pg. 14), she becomes enraged at the idea of the children being taken away (ch. 686, pgs. 15 and 17), and was still trusted by Mocha even after the truth about Caesar was revealed (ch. 683, pg. 10). This all implies that Monet felt attached to the children and treated them particularly well, possibly similarly to Promised Neverland's Isabella raising her doomed children as well as she could so that their short lives could at least be happy ones. As the children were brought to Egghead to be treated by Vegapunk (ch. 1061, pg. 9) and Monet didn't show up at Dressrosa to help Doflamingo, it's possible that she followed the children to Egghead and only later learned that Doflamingo had been defeated by Luffy when it was too late to do anything about it. Because of her unique characteristics, Monet was likely welcomed by Vegapunk as a volunteer test subject in exchange for safe haven and the ability to watch over the children. As Vergo is also believed dead and Smoker and Tashigi may want to maintain the illusion that he was an imposter (ch.682, pg. 5), it seems likely that Vergo's betrayal of the Marines was never reported, so if he survived as Monet did, he likely would have been able to charter a Marine ship to transport Monet to Egghead while himself focusing on finding a way to rescue Doflamingo from Impel Down. If Monet is affiliated with Vegapunk and a trip to the Moon is necessary for finding the One Piece, then Vegapunk's scientific advancements are the most likely way that she and the Straw Hats would be able to reach the Moon. Furthermore, if Monet's backstory is related to the Lunarians and her character is heavily based on her motherly qualities, it is quite likely that Monet may form a connection with the Seraphim children, particularly S-Flamingo who resembles her former master.

So as to avoid others entering this theory unaware of the background information, I will be adding a disclaimer to the beginning of this thread including this summary. Furthermore, if any other theories or discussions should come up before Monet's return, I'll be sure to include this summary with whatever updates are available at the time.

Once again, I'm truly sorry for allowing myself to take my frustrations out on you. Going forward, I will do my utmost to avoid making assumptions about other people's intentions and approach discussions like this in good faith.

If there are any other holes left in my explanation that you feel haven't been properly addressed, please let me know and I will do my best to fill them.
 
#17
Monet is alive :finally:
But I don't think it would be her. Few things should occur for it too I would say.
1 => I expect sugar to be with her too. The unknown person is willing to help vegapunk. So he must have done something for which she is indebted.
2. => She is not really that big of a threat that she has to go into such hiding.
3. => I don't see how Vegapunk will try to rely on her at all. She is weak.
Do you have any alternative suggestions of when you think Monet might show up? I freely admit that Monet doesn't need to show up here necessarily, but from the set up that I can see, the signs all point here.

I'm fairly certain that Sugar was sent to Impel Down with the rest of the Donquixote Pirates, as there was no indication that any of them escaped or were given lighter sentences or anything, so I doubt Monet is with her. It could easily be revealed that she did get away, but there's currently no reason to think that she did

I don't so much think that Monet would be in hiding because she's a threat, but more because she has nowhere else to go. Also, I think you may have misunderstood what my point was for why she's with Vegapunk at all: he's not hiding her necessarily, the World Government doesn't know about her in the first place, he's providing her with the ability to continue looking over the children

As I said earlier in the thread, I don't think Vegapunk intends for this person to defeat CP0, but to help hold them off. Based on her fight with Luffy, stalling tactics seem to be her speciality when fighting enemies she knows she can't defeat
 
#18
yeah. . .I'm not buying it. Too many holes in your logic. First, she as stabbed in the heart. There's no such thing as a superficial stab in the heart. Second, she was in the lab when it collapsed after she was stabbed in the heart. For oda to bring her back now would be an act of desperation and also bad writing.

There's no rational reason why she would be hiding on egghead. Punk was loyal until recently so it doesn't make sense that she'd seek out the government for a place to hide from the government. Monet was loyal to doflamingo and we have no indication that she's even met vegapunk before. If monet was looking after the children, she wouldn't be on egghead, she'd be on the marine base with the children. Plus, we have no evidence that she cared about the kids at all. she was just trying to keep using them as guinea pigs. If she's hiding from the government, being in plain sight on a government base wouldn't make sense.

Honestly, your theory is so far fetched that I suspect you're just trolling.
 
#19
yeah. . .I'm not buying it. Too many holes in your logic. First, she as stabbed in the heart. There's no such thing as a superficial stab in the heart. Second, she was in the lab when it collapsed after she was stabbed in the heart. For oda to bring her back now would be an act of desperation and also bad writing.

There's no rational reason why she would be hiding on egghead. Punk was loyal until recently so it doesn't make sense that she'd seek out the government for a place to hide from the government. Monet was loyal to doflamingo and we have no indication that she's even met vegapunk before. If monet was looking after the children, she wouldn't be on egghead, she'd be on the marine base with the children. Plus, we have no evidence that she cared about the kids at all. she was just trying to keep using them as guinea pigs. If she's hiding from the government, being in plain sight on a government base wouldn't make sense.

Honestly, your theory is so far fetched that I suspect you're just trolling.
No trolling here, friend! I've been proudly sailing the Monet flag since May 15, 2015 when I found Syphin's theory on the subject (There's Something About Monet). I wish I could say I was the one to originally suggest the theory, but I'll be damned if I'm not the one who's supported it the loudest

As for your argument, stab wounds to the heart are shockingly survivable, with a 40% survival rate with treatment. Of course, the heart injuries in the study are puncture wounds, whereas my argument is that Monet was not actually stabbed at all, merely cut. Sure, that would still probably be a grievous injury in real life, but bare in mind that even Luffy has been pierced completely through the chest and survived without complication (ch. 178, pg. 19), to say nothing of all of the other obviously fatal wounds that people in One Piece have survived. Frankly arguing about the realism or survivability of something in One Piece is just silly. If you think it's bad writing, then I'm sorry you're not enjoying the read

I didn't go into much detail on Monet's relationship with the children in the main body of this particular theory, but I've since added an explanation later in the thread and in a disclaimer preceding the theory. If you haven't read those explanations, then I understand why you'd be unconvinced, so I'd recommend giving them a read. If you have already read them and still don't agree, then there's not much I can do about that

It wouldn't make any sense for Monet to be on G-14 since she's not affiliated with the Marines and would immediately be recognized by Tashigi; Egghead, on the other hand, may be a government-affiliated island, but it's still Vegapunk's territory, so if he and Monet struck some kind of deal, it'd be a lot easier for her to hide out with him than on G-14

I'm sure there are holes in my logic, but everything you've pointed out is something I've addressed at one point or another already. If the evidence I've provided is unconvincing to you, so be it, our respective belief in the evidence won't change the outcome either way. In the end, I'll believe until I'm explicitly proven wrong, and I imagine you'll believe I'm wrong unless I'm explicitly proven right. Either way, I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else that I'm right, I'm only trying to help people keep an open mind to the possibilities. The worst-case scenario for me isn't that Monet doesn't come back, it's that people will be rude to each other over the outcome
 
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