[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon Chose your own starters
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For what it's worth I hope you make it through the night. This comes off as a pretty genuine legacy to me.
And I appreciated how you tried to cool the temperature down when things were getting pretty heated between Ultra, Flower, and Prof. I think it can be important to have someone occasionally remind everyone that we're all here to have fun like that.
And I appreciated how you tried to cool the temperature down when things were getting pretty heated between Ultra, Flower, and Prof. I think it can be important to have someone occasionally remind everyone that we're all here to have fun like that.
Do you know why it's not that? Because I don't need to test the waters for a Psychic lynch in this gamestate. I know you'll say "but you might" but I seriously don't. Pot, Kiku, Red Night, Orca, Reloaded, Sallu, Sir Yasheen, Neeko, AM - pretty much all of these are going to be viable to various degrees. And I would wager a good amount of them are town. I have no reason to try and undermine a consensus townie Psychic, not in the fragile foothold I already have on the thread.
This isn't WIFOM, it literally just requires you to think. The one characteristic and strength you can pin on me when I play scum more than anything else is gamestate awareness. I am not an overconfident or hubristic scum player. I do not see pressure mounting and go "huh let me get ahead of myself and try and open this slot up that I know is going to make herself obvious town if she is town eventually". I would first consolidate my position, through mech or a well placed bus, and then maybe I'd try to widen the PoE.
Also, you're applying the completely wrong process to that last point. If you have me as town, you are an accomplice to scum if you are happy to walk into my mislynch. That's just how it is. As town, it's important to close off mislynches as much as it is to push correct lynches. It's arguably just as valuable. You cite Ultra - Ultra scum reads me, or rather, is reluctant to town read me, in almost every game, regardless of what I do. He and I just some years ago ended up pushing each other almost every game. Over that process, I have gotten better at reading him, to the point where just recently he claimed I was the best at reading him. He has not gotten better at reading me. Instead he reigns his suspicion in more to be less of an obstacle. He does this because he understands that he can't read me very well. His process, by default, when it comes to reading me, is to assume I'm more likely scum, and then hold off from pushing that long enough for me to clear myself or be killed. Usually the latter.
So I mean if you want to base your decision on that, then I don't really have anything else to add. What you're doing here though is playing out of a sense of "I don't want to lose to him", as opposed to "I want to win". I do understand why this is your thought process, back when I was at a similar level of experience to you I too often considered games from the lens of "who would I rather lose to", but once you realise that just biases your thinking in different ways it becomes a habit you need to break.
In regards to your next counterpoint as you're reading this, which will be "well if you're town I'll sheep your legacy", you won't because you'll be dead. From Cycle 3 onwards scum tend to have more reliable ways to kill in these games, as roles are expended.
I kind of feel like the saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" sums up the discussions I've had tonight. I can really only do so much. If I was having a horrible game and being incredibly damaging to the town I could understand that I'd be a liability but I really don't even think I am. Even if my scum hunting ends up having been terrible I think I've backed up my positions well enough to make sense, and I've supported my town reads from today especially.
This isn't WIFOM, it literally just requires you to think. The one characteristic and strength you can pin on me when I play scum more than anything else is gamestate awareness. I am not an overconfident or hubristic scum player. I do not see pressure mounting and go "huh let me get ahead of myself and try and open this slot up that I know is going to make herself obvious town if she is town eventually". I would first consolidate my position, through mech or a well placed bus, and then maybe I'd try to widen the PoE.
Also, you're applying the completely wrong process to that last point. If you have me as town, you are an accomplice to scum if you are happy to walk into my mislynch. That's just how it is. As town, it's important to close off mislynches as much as it is to push correct lynches. It's arguably just as valuable. You cite Ultra - Ultra scum reads me, or rather, is reluctant to town read me, in almost every game, regardless of what I do. He and I just some years ago ended up pushing each other almost every game. Over that process, I have gotten better at reading him, to the point where just recently he claimed I was the best at reading him. He has not gotten better at reading me. Instead he reigns his suspicion in more to be less of an obstacle. He does this because he understands that he can't read me very well. His process, by default, when it comes to reading me, is to assume I'm more likely scum, and then hold off from pushing that long enough for me to clear myself or be killed. Usually the latter.
So I mean if you want to base your decision on that, then I don't really have anything else to add. What you're doing here though is playing out of a sense of "I don't want to lose to him", as opposed to "I want to win". I do understand why this is your thought process, back when I was at a similar level of experience to you I too often considered games from the lens of "who would I rather lose to", but once you realise that just biases your thinking in different ways it becomes a habit you need to break.
In regards to your next counterpoint as you're reading this, which will be "well if you're town I'll sheep your legacy", you won't because you'll be dead. From Cycle 3 onwards scum tend to have more reliable ways to kill in these games, as roles are expended.
I kind of feel like the saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" sums up the discussions I've had tonight. I can really only do so much. If I was having a horrible game and being incredibly damaging to the town I could understand that I'd be a liability but I really don't even think I am. Even if my scum hunting ends up having been terrible I think I've backed up my positions well enough to make sense, and I've supported my town reads from today especially.
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