[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon: I choose you!

[gingerbread]

She suspected him, so the kill makes sense

Yeah the problem is that I'm her only scumread since the literal 2 hours since the start of the game. There's zero progression.

 

[Flower]

My read on Cata hasn’t changed, no. He‘s fallen off, but he did the same thing previous game after a few days and my initial read was still correct.

And I watched Ratchet because he looked decent off the Rej flip and I felt he was a good kill target.

 

[Ratchet]

She suspected him, so the kill makes sense

I didn't see that post, fair point.

 

[gingerbread]

Wait who said I was getting tampered with? I haven't claimed anything to indicate that my role could be affected in that way.

And by tampered I meant generally negative actions too, like poisons or kills even.

 

[Flower]

Yeah the problem is that I'm her only scumread since the literal 2 hours since the start of the game. There's zero progression.

How do you think people should be reading you objectively?

 

[Ratchet]

Nobody. I'm asking what was potential reason for Flower to want to watch you. You indeed having claimed anything.

Right so why would you mention me being tampered with? You said "do you think he was a potential town getting tampered with", which implies me being tampered with is an established fact.

 

[Ratchet]

And by tampered I meant generally negative actions too, like poisons or kills even.

Literally not what that word means but okay.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

I hate how low the bar is these days

Yeah but unironically I was thinking about it and if ppl hold themselves to a lower standard there’s less weight from expectations

cuz I set very unrealistic expectations for myself when I play mafia and it really weighs on me

but maybe the bar here is so low it makes ppl unreadable, and maybe my bar is too high that I’m exhausted by the amount of effort needed to clear it, when really mafia should just be a game

I just really wish I wasn’t deluding myself with false assumptions about what ppl expect from me and how they react to my mistakes, cuz I realized a lot of my mafia experience has been me feeling like a liability or that I’m ruining the game with my bad plays, and I end up feeling obligated to play more to make up for my mistakes. Cuz I hate hurting people or making it feel like I’m making the game worse overall for people, so I try my best to play and play well. Unfortunately again I feel very accident-prone and I way exaggerate ppl’s reactions in my mind / assume that ppl are way more pissed off if I make mistakes, so I try super hard not to do that.

it’s something that I discovered is that I’m a bit of a perfectionist, but not in the sense of “I need to be perfect because perfect is awesome”, but literally “I need to be perfect so that I don’t hurt people with my mistakes”

but yeah I think that explains a lot of the reasons I go full tryhard in mafia games at the cost of my own wellbeing and also find it hard to leave, cuz I also have the delusion of “if I leave, the town will fall apart without me and everyone will have a worse time”

sorry for oversharing. The weight i perceive is just too much to hold in sometimes

 

[gingerbread]

Right so why would you mention me being tampered with? You said "do you think he was a potential town getting tampered with", which implies me being tampered with is an established fact.

I literally gave two scenarios here.

1. You were watching him because you thought he's scum and wanted to fish for scum protecting him?
or

2. You were watching him because you thought he's town and could be hit with some scum negative action?

 

[Ratchet]

My read on Cata hasn’t changed, no. He‘s fallen off, but he did the same thing previous game after a few days and my initial read was still correct.

And I watched Ratchet because he looked decent off the Rej flip and I felt he was a good kill target.

I more asking for the basis of it in the first place. Can you at least try to establish your reasoning, instead of just telling me that you're never wrong on him.

 

[Flower]

And by tampered I meant generally negative actions too, like poisons or kills even.

Tampered means manipulated. Like redirects. The word you’re looking for is harmed.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

How should I work as a bartender when the bar is so low that it makes my back hurt.

Invest in good shoes (metaphorically?)

 

[Flower]

@ThatAverageGuy those are some posts from scum Bitter two games ago.

In that game he was trying to appease to others by giving more than he normally would as Town. He also ridiculed Alexis and trash talked him when he correctly had him as scum. He also tried leveraging the fact he’s frequently being mislynched as Town against his accusers.

In this game here there’s a lot less of any of that. He’s solving at his own pace and doesn’t play victim like in the Naruto game. And he isn’t trying to appease to anyone. So I think there’s a huge contrast between that game and here.

@Ratchet read this. Thank you.

 

[Ratchet]

I literally gave two scenarios here.

1. You were watching him because you thought he's scum and wanted to fish for scum protecting him?
or

2. You were watching him because you thought he's town and could be hit with some scum negative action?

I know, I can read. What does that have to do with what I was asking? You've later said that you were using "tampered with" to mean something entirely different to what "tampering" means, but I can't possibly know that before you say so, can I?

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

Gtg proctor an exam I’ll be back later

 

[Ratchet]

@ThatAverageGuy those are some posts from scum Bitter two games ago.

In that game he was trying to appease to others by giving more than he normally would as Town. He also ridiculed Alexis and trash talked him when he correctly had him as scum. He also tried leveraging the fact he’s frequently being mislynched as Town against his accusers.

In this game here there’s a lot less of any of that. He’s solving at his own pace and doesn’t play victim like in the Naruto game. And he isn’t trying to appease to anyone. So I think there’s a huge contrast between that game and here.

I feel like there have been some similarities (there was a post where he was talking about Rej like he just knew he was scum, and was expecting people to do all the leg work but I sort of take your point. Would like to see more from him though.

 

[Ratchet]

Did Ginger's role flip?

 

[Flower]

I feel like there have been some similarities (there was a post where he was talking about Rej like he just knew he was scum, and was expecting people to do all the leg work but I sort of take your point. Would like to see more from him though.

I think it’s just easy with him, sometimes. Issue is just that I can understand why people would suspect him when he stops contributing much, but I just don’t think he’s scum. So it’s a pretty shitty situation for me.

*stares angrily at @bittersweet *

 

[Flower]

I‘m going to catch up with Greatest Estate Developer today btw.

 

[Flower]

Did Ginger's role flip?

No.