[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon: I choose you!

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Ratchet

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Also remember Fuji has in the past made scum immune to watchers/trackers and then given the same scum team the watcher/tracker with town having none of it. My role also has the ability to alignment invest eventually too. Does this mean I think Charlie is scum? No, but something something blindspots.
 
Also remember Fuji has in the past made scum immune to watchers/trackers and then given the same scum team the watcher/tracker with town having none of it. My role also has the ability to alignment invest eventually too. Does this mean I think Charlie is scum? No, but something something blindspots.
I don’t think he’s scum on play either. He‘s played a little more reserved early on, but that adds up well with him having a Cop role.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I don’t think he’s scum on play either. He‘s played a little more reserved early on, but that adds up well with him having a Cop role.
I mean if it comes back to general play then I don't disagree. Outside of Crying/Ginger, who do you think makes up the rest? Let's say 2-3 more scum after that.
 
While I get that people might be paranoid of a Cop living so long, I don’t think he’s scum. I just find it more likely a check of him keeps him alive as a shield so to speak. And Ginger fits perfectly into my current world view, too.
 

Ratchet

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While I get that people might be paranoid of a Cop living so long, I don’t think he’s scum. I just find it more likely a check of him keeps him alive as a shield so to speak. And Ginger fits perfectly into my current world view, too.
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment. If you're Ginger and Charlie the town cop has a hard innocent check burned onto you, would you not kill Charlie to ensure that invest is verified? Especially if you're going to kill Hayumi.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment. If you're Ginger and Charlie the town cop has a hard innocent check burned onto you, would you not kill Charlie to ensure that invest is verified? Especially if you're going to kill Hayumi.
I don't necessarily agree with this sentiment btw, it's more a thought experiment.
 
Not paired via my "tell"
Ginger/Reloaded
Flower/Hayumi
Flower/Tepig


Not paired via interactions/posts
Alexis/Jan
Alexis/Ratchet
Hayumi/Ratchet
Hayumi/Flower

Cryo/York
Bittersweet/gingerbread
Cryo/gingerbread
Bittersweet/Shuijin
From Rej analysis
Conclusions:
Naomi/Melkor, Jan, York, Crying, Juliet, gingerbread, me: town from spew
Reloaded, Flower, Ratchet: probably town from spew, but with less confidence from me
From Yoho ISO
RippedCal/Yoho not paired.

A red-flip on Yoho would spew Crying town.

I could see this as being potential scum/scum with Yoho/Polar, I'll need to check Polar ISO for interactions/mentions of Yoho if this actually becomes a thing (and please note this, in case I die and can't do it myself)

Hmm... no real thoughts on whether this AI or not, but I'm noting it to clear Juliet if Yoho flips red. Also I need to check timing on any votes Yoho made on Rej, in light of this.
Updated unpairings:

Crying/Polar Bear
Crying/Ratchet
Flower/Ratchet also not paired
Before I get to responding to Ratchet...

@Crying bc no Cryo

Earlier this morning you asked me who bittersweet could be paired or unpaired with. Here are all the unpaired reads I made from ISOs and spew so far. I don't look for "paired" - I always look for "unpaired" and then try to work within the PoE

I've crossed out all my "unpaired" reads that have been proven true by town or scum flips (or both). As you can see, my "unpaired" reads have been fairly accurate so far. I only wish I'd listened to myself on Cal/Yoho and not starting suspecting him yesterday... but he's dead now, so at least I don't have to berate myself for mislynching him.

bittersweet is *not* paired with ginger or Shui/BTAM.

In theory he could be paired with anyone he's unpaired with. He has no unpairing interactions with Rej or Yoho that I've seen.

If I cross-reference who bittersweet could be paired with and who has not been spewed town by our flipped wolves, then I'm left with Orca, Polar, Hime and Charlie.

@ThatAverageGuy TAGGING this post so I find it easier next time I need to call up my unpaired reads.

Hope that helps.
 
Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment. If you're Ginger and Charlie the town cop has a hard innocent check burned onto you, would you not kill Charlie to ensure that invest is verified? Especially if you're going to kill Hayumi.
Not if I need people in my corner and more mislynches to work with. A Cop with a LD check is very likely to follow his checks over anyone else. And if people doubt the checks they could hide behind the Cop.
 
In fact the Hayumi kill makes perfect sense from that pov if Ginger/Polar are scum. Since it partly verifies that the checks are legit and makes them look better.
 
Before I get to responding to Ratchet...

@Crying bc no Cryo

Earlier this morning you asked me who bittersweet could be paired or unpaired with. Here are all the unpaired reads I made from ISOs and spew so far. I don't look for "paired" - I always look for "unpaired" and then try to work within the PoE

I've crossed out all my "unpaired" reads that have been proven true by town or scum flips (or both). As you can see, my "unpaired" reads have been fairly accurate so far. I only wish I'd listened to myself on Cal/Yoho and not starting suspecting him yesterday... but he's dead now, so at least I don't have to berate myself for mislynching him.

bittersweet is *not* paired with ginger or Shui/BTAM.

In theory he could be paired with anyone he's unpaired with. He has no unpairing interactions with Rej or Yoho that I've seen.

If I cross-reference who bittersweet could be paired with and who has not been spewed town by our flipped wolves, then I'm left with Orca, Polar, Hime and Charlie.

@ThatAverageGuy TAGGING this post so I find it easier next time I need to call up my unpaired reads.

Hope that helps.
Ok so beyond this do u think any of Charlie PB and hime are wolf cuz obv the team can’t just be Orca and bs
 
Before I get to responding to Ratchet...

@Crying bc no Cryo

Earlier this morning you asked me who bittersweet could be paired or unpaired with. Here are all the unpaired reads I made from ISOs and spew so far. I don't look for "paired" - I always look for "unpaired" and then try to work within the PoE

I've crossed out all my "unpaired" reads that have been proven true by town or scum flips (or both). As you can see, my "unpaired" reads have been fairly accurate so far. I only wish I'd listened to myself on Cal/Yoho and not starting suspecting him yesterday... but he's dead now, so at least I don't have to berate myself for mislynching him.

bittersweet is *not* paired with ginger or Shui/BTAM.

In theory he could be paired with anyone he's unpaired with. He has no unpairing interactions with Rej or Yoho that I've seen.

If I cross-reference who bittersweet could be paired with and who has not been spewed town by our flipped wolves, then I'm left with Orca, Polar, Hime and Charlie.

@ThatAverageGuy TAGGING this post so I find it easier next time I need to call up my unpaired reads.

Hope that helps.
And to add to this, if bittersweet is actually town, then Shui/BTAM could be scum/PoE (in terms of not spewed town by either of the wolves)
 
The Cal kill is kinda throwing me off, but maybe the scum team just connected the dots between our roles based on his play around me and wanted to get rid of a Watcher role.
 
Ok so beyond this do u think any of Charlie PB and hime are wolf cuz obv the team can’t just be Orca and bs
I town-read hime. I don't town-read Charlie off play, but there's that cop claim that I am hovering over indecisively because I can't decide whether scum-Charlie would have the guts to go in and claim cop like that. Polar, maybe. I said yesterday that I needed to check Polar, Cal and Orca (or was it Cal, Reloaded and Orca? I was away at the time, my mind wasn't in game mode) ISOs for potential unpairings with the flipped wolves, but I didn't get chance to do that.

I will however take a quick peek now. The only reason I haven't pushed Polar much is because people kept telling me that Yoho was not a "strategic" player and that reading him for spew wasn't an accurate thing to do. So I put aside the "potential pairing" I had from Yoho on Polar and forgot about it until I just saw it in my own post.
 
Can u look at bs’ iso real quick if u have time? It seems like his refusal to solve or claim this entire game despite it being day 6 is just scum openly not wanting to play the game to me
I don't think I'll gain anything from this. Most of his posts have been 1) self defence, 2) stubborn refusal to cooperate, 3) wacky nonsensical readlists, and 4) something about some sort of webtoon.

But sure, I'll take a quick look now.
 
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