[FNZ] Super Role Madness Pokemon: I choose you!
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Polar/York/Charlie/Orca - would say plausibly two of these names can fit but it's hard to get them in there when all but Charlie have basically stopped playing. Orca would require some heavy bussing going on.
Bittersweet - on play I have no reason to think he's town, would require some bussing today from Crying and it's a bit clunky. If Scum Crying is convinced he's going over though it can make sense. Even if we still question the claim afterwards.
The rest I think are townie enough that I need to make assumptions somewhere.
Bittersweet - on play I have no reason to think he's town, would require some bussing today from Crying and it's a bit clunky. If Scum Crying is convinced he's going over though it can make sense. Even if we still question the claim afterwards.
The rest I think are townie enough that I need to make assumptions somewhere.
We could potentially be aligned, yes. In fact, I think it's very likely we are, but even I can't know 100% if we're aligned until he flips.
I'm not going to go down the wifom route of "I would never do this as scum" because 1) you have no way of verifying any meta I provide, 2) it doesn't matter whether people can read me for future because my presence on this forum exists only so long as I am alive in this game, and 3) there is exists the possibility that you're scum and already know my alignment anyway
If you're town, you'll just have to use your noggin. Pushing my scum reads and defending my town reads is just how I play and nothing is going to change that.
I'm not going to go down the wifom route of "I would never do this as scum" because 1) you have no way of verifying any meta I provide, 2) it doesn't matter whether people can read me for future because my presence on this forum exists only so long as I am alive in this game, and 3) there is exists the possibility that you're scum and already know my alignment anyway
If you're town, you'll just have to use your noggin. Pushing my scum reads and defending my town reads is just how I play and nothing is going to change that.
Ginger is also scum with him because look at how he immediately just engages with it in earnest. There is no consideration as to why he's really doing it or why he's not taking action to actually achieve it. He just believes him in earnest and tries to frame the discussion into going down the route of "this is genuine". After this there is absolutely no follow up from Ginger and coming into today he hasn't even mentioned it.
There was also an earlier post from Ginger I called out at the time where he sets an unreasonably high bar for Crying to be faking it by requiring Crying to be "an *extremely good* actor", emphasis mine. This serves to raise the bar required for people to agree that he is faking it - it's inherently manipulative. To demonstrate this, if someone is unsure, when they read this they'd ask themselves "Do I think Crying is an extremely good actor", to which they'd probably answer no which then leads to the idea that he can't then be faking it. Hence why it's manipulative.
And this wouldn't be so bad if Ginger could put into concrete terms why the bar was so high, but when he was asked for it, he couldn't talk about Crying specifically and could only reference general expectations. I'll quote the post later for transparency.
Also while I'm on the topic of Ginger, he's had defacto thread control since Day 1 and has delivered... how many scum? You're telling me he couldn't get any of his lynches over if he really wanted to?
Let's look at it from another perspective.
Let's say crying is scum. And for arguments sake, let's say ginger is scum defending him.
That means there are 1 or two more scum who have either been ignoring crying or bussing him all game expecting to look good off the lynch.
Given everyone's play in this game, who do you think those scum might be?
Let's say crying is scum. And for arguments sake, let's say ginger is scum defending him.
That means there are 1 or two more scum who have either been ignoring crying or bussing him all game expecting to look good off the lynch.
Given everyone's play in this game, who do you think those scum might be?
Here's the post in question that I mentioned. Also I have to point out, he's trying to pass off someone defending scum and pushing town as... townie? Why?
There is also how Crying has had Ginger and I both in PoE. But he never once reconciles how we can both be scum, and never really tries to push Ginger whatsoever. Ginger never really comes down on him for this and indeed, even rewards him with a town read. It gives me the impression that Crying is very comfortable with putting Ginger into his scum reads, knowing he won't really be challenged on his read.
There is also how Crying has had Ginger and I both in PoE. But he never once reconciles how we can both be scum, and never really tries to push Ginger whatsoever. Ginger never really comes down on him for this and indeed, even rewards him with a town read. It gives me the impression that Crying is very comfortable with putting Ginger into his scum reads, knowing he won't really be challenged on his read.
My point is that these two things are not equivalent - Orca putting some names into a PoE is one thing, Crying putting our two names down and treating us the same on the surface while mechanically only focusing on one and not the other, and similarly, the other side being unreasonably charitable towards Crying and his motives, is what I'm calling out. I mean you must have read it, you quoted a line from within that post, so I don't understand why this is your takeaway. Mind helping me with that?
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