Break Week POLL: Due to not living up to the hype has Wano (including Onigashima) been the worst arc of OP
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What I'm dissapointed about Wano :
- No top tier Samurai
- The Shogun being as strong as fodder despite having a mythical Zoan
- BMP easely kicked twice
- Motherly mode (Omg 😫)
- Sasaki, Black Maria, and page one didn't show any sign of haki
- The scabbard regeneration being superior to ancient Zoan
What I think living up to my expectation :
- The shs beat their opponent around mid to high diff. They deserve that.
- Kaido still look unbeatable and pretty much healthy after fighting all of those strong people.
- I love the scene when the samurais, the yakuza, Jinbei and the SN helped the scabbard to cross the sea to Onigashima.
- How the SN could give a good fight against two yonkos in the rooftop.
The arc isn't over yet. I'm still expecting the involvement of the BMP and the CP0. It could easily be a very good arc later, depends on how the story progress from now on. But until now, I am confident enough to say that Wano isn't the worst arc of the series. It is just avarage.
- No top tier Samurai
- The Shogun being as strong as fodder despite having a mythical Zoan
- BMP easely kicked twice
- Motherly mode (Omg 😫)
- Sasaki, Black Maria, and page one didn't show any sign of haki
- The scabbard regeneration being superior to ancient Zoan
What I think living up to my expectation :
- The shs beat their opponent around mid to high diff. They deserve that.
- Kaido still look unbeatable and pretty much healthy after fighting all of those strong people.
- I love the scene when the samurais, the yakuza, Jinbei and the SN helped the scabbard to cross the sea to Onigashima.
- How the SN could give a good fight against two yonkos in the rooftop.
The arc isn't over yet. I'm still expecting the involvement of the BMP and the CP0. It could easily be a very good arc later, depends on how the story progress from now on. But until now, I am confident enough to say that Wano isn't the worst arc of the series. It is just avarage.
Wci just had pacing problem.
Except it , oda meet us with totally different word and theme.
When we expect dark world , we saw the word that is one hundred percent compatible with sanjis character.
All character meeting and details was very well. Katskuri , Cracker, candy arrow guy , germa 66 .
Luffy prepared yonkou level with beating yonkou commanders.
Also , for me , when luffy was drown in the dark , jimbei helped luffy and thanks to jimbei, luffy saw the light again.
With same thing , luffy saved sanji. Because , luffy experienced same desperate. Dressrosa and wci totally showed how much grow or mature luffy was.
These are just some parts.
The other arcs put its idea clearly.
But at the wano , until onigashima , all Straw Hats was making spy . End of the day , I asked myself why we read lots of chapter this spy thing if totally useless.
Oda gave lots of chapter 9 scabbards . At onigashima , he gave 4 5 chap . Is that make sense ?
Also , kids drama and usage has been untaste. Before wano , luffy have already had lots of reasons to beat kaido. But what did oda do ? He transformed kid world at wano. When we read zoros journal , we are witnessing gloomy and tense theme , and suddenly this theme lost.
Lots of chap , he hyped zoan type devil fruit. Did you see anything about in onigashima ?
Then, to able to write momotaro , he meet us with Yamato.
The other arcs dont include so many pollution and complications and unnecessary thing as much as this arc.
This is subjective thing. But even if oda gave my bias every kind of power AP , my idea does not change.
That has been very long . Sorry for that.
Except it , oda meet us with totally different word and theme.
When we expect dark world , we saw the word that is one hundred percent compatible with sanjis character.
All character meeting and details was very well. Katskuri , Cracker, candy arrow guy , germa 66 .
Luffy prepared yonkou level with beating yonkou commanders.
Also , for me , when luffy was drown in the dark , jimbei helped luffy and thanks to jimbei, luffy saw the light again.
With same thing , luffy saved sanji. Because , luffy experienced same desperate. Dressrosa and wci totally showed how much grow or mature luffy was.
These are just some parts.
The other arcs put its idea clearly.
But at the wano , until onigashima , all Straw Hats was making spy . End of the day , I asked myself why we read lots of chapter this spy thing if totally useless.
Oda gave lots of chapter 9 scabbards . At onigashima , he gave 4 5 chap . Is that make sense ?
Also , kids drama and usage has been untaste. Before wano , luffy have already had lots of reasons to beat kaido. But what did oda do ? He transformed kid world at wano. When we read zoros journal , we are witnessing gloomy and tense theme , and suddenly this theme lost.
Lots of chap , he hyped zoan type devil fruit. Did you see anything about in onigashima ?
Then, to able to write momotaro , he meet us with Yamato.
The other arcs dont include so many pollution and complications and unnecessary thing as much as this arc.
This is subjective thing. But even if oda gave my bias every kind of power AP , my idea does not change.
That has been very long . Sorry for that.
It is not perfect but I enjoy it. Had some most epic moments One Piece had for a long time. Also Strawhats and Supernovas are having cool fights.
I think people being so critical of post-ts One Piece look at pre-ts with rose coloured glasses. One Piece was always a bit silly, it was part of the charm for me.
I think people being so critical of post-ts One Piece look at pre-ts with rose coloured glasses. One Piece was always a bit silly, it was part of the charm for me.
wano for me didn't lived up to hype and main reason for me is mediocre main villains (in total):
orochi was good and had Potential but he was way to weak and coward after kaido's betrayal he lost all his importance (at least for me) right now he isn't important at all
Kaido is very strong but for me he is a very neutral main Villain i don't like or hate him and for me it's not a good thing but it can be fixed with good flashback
Big Mom i liked when she came to wano but she was more harmful for Kaido than helpful in roof top she wasn't bad but for majority of arc she was very meh
King we are 100+chapter in wano and we know barely anything about him and we also didn't see that much of his strength or personality he also didn't get any focus in this ark until now
Queen for most part he was ans is good we see enough about him his strength and personality
Jack some fan has problem with him but personally i don't have any major problem with him he get good focus and moment in zou and in wano he wasn't bad at least for me
F6 for most part they are ok they get some focus and good feat and fights:
Sasaki vs Franky was good for me (6/10)
Robin vs BM it was a very good fight and i like it a lot (7.5/10)
Jinbe vs W'sW for me it was best F6 fight i liked W'sW back story and fight was very good (8.5/10)
Nami vs Ulti i can't even call it a fight it was very meh and P1 defeat also was very bad i wanted an actual fight for Nami and Usopp i liked to see them using their brain and everything they have and defeating them
another Problem for me was lack of a strong (top tier) samurai in present time specialy in enemy side but we don't have an actual strong samurai in wano in both side Oniwabanshu ninjas and Mimawarigumi samurai was very meh (zoro king and ... aren't from wano i mean an actual samurai from wano like we see in movies)
another problem is (in general not only wano) after pound's fake dead and that disaster of cover story i don't believe in any death any more so i didn't feel any thing for kinemon kiku and asura because i don't think any of them is actually dead in wci it become better for me after pedro and pound dead (that was a fake dead) but that cover story ruined every thing i liked pound dead alot f you oda
if we don't cunt it's hype wano is an ok ark until now (7/10 was below 7 before shp vs F6 fights) it can become better or worse depend of ending
orochi was good and had Potential but he was way to weak and coward after kaido's betrayal he lost all his importance (at least for me) right now he isn't important at all
Kaido is very strong but for me he is a very neutral main Villain i don't like or hate him and for me it's not a good thing but it can be fixed with good flashback
Big Mom i liked when she came to wano but she was more harmful for Kaido than helpful in roof top she wasn't bad but for majority of arc she was very meh
King we are 100+chapter in wano and we know barely anything about him and we also didn't see that much of his strength or personality he also didn't get any focus in this ark until now
Queen for most part he was ans is good we see enough about him his strength and personality
Jack some fan has problem with him but personally i don't have any major problem with him he get good focus and moment in zou and in wano he wasn't bad at least for me
F6 for most part they are ok they get some focus and good feat and fights:
Sasaki vs Franky was good for me (6/10)
Robin vs BM it was a very good fight and i like it a lot (7.5/10)
Jinbe vs W'sW for me it was best F6 fight i liked W'sW back story and fight was very good (8.5/10)
Nami vs Ulti i can't even call it a fight it was very meh and P1 defeat also was very bad i wanted an actual fight for Nami and Usopp i liked to see them using their brain and everything they have and defeating them
another Problem for me was lack of a strong (top tier) samurai in present time specialy in enemy side but we don't have an actual strong samurai in wano in both side Oniwabanshu ninjas and Mimawarigumi samurai was very meh (zoro king and ... aren't from wano i mean an actual samurai from wano like we see in movies)
another problem is (in general not only wano) after pound's fake dead and that disaster of cover story i don't believe in any death any more so i didn't feel any thing for kinemon kiku and asura because i don't think any of them is actually dead in wci it become better for me after pedro and pound dead (that was a fake dead) but that cover story ruined every thing i liked pound dead alot f you oda
if we don't cunt it's hype wano is an ok ark until now (7/10 was below 7 before shp vs F6 fights) it can become better or worse depend of ending
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Oda couldn't handle Kaido that's all he has no real personality for me no real threatening aura
He is no different from the numbers big and strong but stupid and idiotic
Oda wanted to introduce his "Darkseid" or "Thanos" but couldn't bring out the potential it carried I wish this arc never happened this is a pity
Characters like Darkseid or Kaido need more personality more screen and more badass action scenes
He offpaneld the scabbards and the fight against Luffy and Co
He rather showed and big ugly Dragon rather than the fast tanky fighter
I think Oda didn't know how to handle BM and Kaido it's a pity
Let's hope this embarrassments gets over and pretend this arc never happened
He is no different from the numbers big and strong but stupid and idiotic
Oda wanted to introduce his "Darkseid" or "Thanos" but couldn't bring out the potential it carried I wish this arc never happened this is a pity
Characters like Darkseid or Kaido need more personality more screen and more badass action scenes
He offpaneld the scabbards and the fight against Luffy and Co
He rather showed and big ugly Dragon rather than the fast tanky fighter
I think Oda didn't know how to handle BM and Kaido it's a pity
Let's hope this embarrassments gets over and pretend this arc never happened
You know my opinion about Wano: Wano is the worst of everything, frankly spiking Wano is the worst piece of storytelling I've ever read in my life. It's a fucking horror show!!! The level of sheer stupidity of Wano's plot armors and conviniaces tops everything I've ever experienced in my adult life, my teacher of literature would have gotten a heart attack by reading Wano. She would have probably said something along the lines of "how the f*ck does this guy make so much money by selling dog s*it?" Wano is an insult to reader's intelligence, it is a spit to the reader's brains!!! It truly is an incredible Marketing Feat to be able make profit out of Wano, it's a great example that a talented salesman can sell everything, even your own disgrace to yourself. The fact that Oda himself [the author] came out and used his own "highly respected" voice to promote the arc shows that they knew that the arc is going to be a s*it show–otherwise there was no reason to hype it up so much. Good arcs don't need any hyping, their existence is a hype on its own.
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wano isn't one of best arcs for many reasons :
-it's lenght : how many yearz now since tis wano arc started???..
-it's replica of tresrosa arc..fight fight fight and then take down main boss..
-so many unesesary buble of speeeech : words speak louder then actions in one piece manga...like how characters talk more then fight during oganashima raid...also it's waste of ink and eforts..
-so many unesesary filer scenes : for exmple for lufy to lose consiouss after he got beat by kaido..it took him like 3 or 4 chapter to be rescued...seriously oda????.
-teh darkest point of wano arc is how lufy got defeated twice by kaido...in second fight kaido beat $h!t out of lufy and threw him in sea..wich means kaido won fight...and even if lufy comes back and win for me kaido will always be a winer CUZ FIGHT ENDED WHEN KAIDO KNOCKED HIM DOWN AND THREW HIM IN SEA !!!!....
wish oda go back to his old style...why he no longer write arcs in style of skypiea????...skypeia arc was awesome and abalasta too..
wano isn't one of best arcs for many reasons :
-it's lenght : how many yearz now since tis wano arc started???..
-it's replica of tresrosa arc..fight fight fight and then take down main boss..
-so many unesesary buble of speeeech : words speak louder then actions in one piece manga...like how characters talk more then fight during oganashima raid...also it's waste of ink and eforts..
-so many unesesary filer scenes : for exmple for lufy to lose consiouss after he got beat by kaido..it took him like 3 or 4 chapter to be rescued...seriously oda????.
-teh darkest point of wano arc is how lufy got defeated twice by kaido...in second fight kaido beat $h!t out of lufy and threw him in sea..wich means kaido won fight...and even if lufy comes back and win for me kaido will always be a winer CUZ FIGHT ENDED WHEN KAIDO KNOCKED HIM DOWN AND THREW HIM IN SEA !!!!....
wish oda go back to his old style...why he no longer write arcs in style of skypiea????...skypeia arc was awesome and abalasta too..
