General & Others Powerscalers (Agenda Aside) is there a way that your favorite character can not be one of the strongest and that not be an issue for you?

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Because Kuzan and Sakazuki are stronger and more infamous than an up and coming Emperor.

He has no idea whether or not that's true.
All he knows is Luffy is an Emperor and he's freakishly strong.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

He has no idea whether or not that's true.
All he knows is Luffy is an Emperor and he's freakishly strong.

Blackbeard is a bounty scaler. He sees 3 Billion he really isn’t that scared.

 

[RyoQ]

What is this nonsense? taking something a completely different character has said, and using their own viewpoint, and then trying to apply it to another character?

Daz has more reasons to consider himself a swordsman than Fujitora does

Nor is there any indication of Daz bones training swordsmanship since childhood:

Unlike Fujitora

"Traditional sword techniques"

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Daz has more reasons to consider himself a swordsman than Fujitora does



"Traditional sword techniques"

Kaku turns into a giant giraffe and whips people with his nose… he’s still a swrodsman.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Blackbeard is a bounty scaler. He sees 3 Billion he really isn’t that scared.

I think he just doesn't care because he has a lot of confidence in his strength and thinks winning the fight would be a huge benefit for him

 

[RyoQ]

Kaku turns into a giant giraffe and whips people with his nose… he’s still a swrodsman.

Using a sword =/= being a swordsman

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Using a sword =/= being a swordsman

The thing is we see Issho fight with a sword all the time. He almost NEVER uses anything besides his sword in fights.
And yes, he does use it in conjunction with his fruit, but that doesn't mean he's not a swordsman.
The fact of the matter is, he still primarily fights with his sword.

 

[RyoQ]

The thing is we see Issho fight with a sword all the time. He almost NEVER uses anything besides his sword in fights.

King always fights with a sword

Zoro doesn't consider him a swordsman

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And yes, he does use it in conjunction with his fruit

You know who else uses their sword in conjunction with their fruit?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

King always fights with a sword

Zoro doesn't consider him a swordsman

We've seen King use multiple things besides a sword. He's fought with his legs, he's fought with his wings, he's used aerial slashes, fireballs, fire infused palm strikes, punches, explosions, so on and so forth.
We don't see Issho do that, though.

 

[RyoQ]

We've seen King use multiple things besides a sword. He's fought with his legs, he's fought with his wings, he's used aerial slashes, fireballs, fire infused palm strikes, punches, explosions, so on and so forth

Zoro said King doesn't use "traditional techniques"

What part of this is a "traditional technique"
-Meteors
-Horizontal shockwaves
-Vertical shockwaves
-Telekenesis

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I think he just doesn't care because he has a lot of confidence in his strength and thinks winning the fight would be a huge benefit for him

I doubt it. Blackbeard is careless but he’s shown to be careful around abilities that actually intimidate him like Sakazuki Kuzans and Boas. Luffy I just don’t think scares him because he sees Luffys bounty and knows he can take that.

Using a sword =/= being a swordsman

Yes but being based on one of the most famous swordsman in Japanese media, having a supreme grade blade, having a sword style mixing fruit and swordsmanship, and even using your sword to channel gravity to summon meteors makes it pretty clear what Fujis main fighting style is

 

[RyoQ]

Yes but being based on one of the most famous swordsman in Japanese media, having a supreme grade blade, having a sword style mixing fruit and swordsmanship, and even using your sword to channel gravity to summon meteors makes it pretty clear what Fujis main fighting style is

Fuji abandons traditional techniques (the qualifications for being a swordsman according to Zoro)

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Zoro said King doesn't use "traditional techniques"

What part of this is a "traditional technique"
-Meteors
-Horizontal shockwaves
-Vertical shockwaves
-Telekenesis

You can't see the forest from the trees.
You're focused on him using his Devil Fruit with his sword, and not focusing on the fact that he's still primarily using a sword to fight.
If he's not a swordsman, then why do we always see him fight with his sword?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Fuji abandons traditional techniques (the qualifications for being a swordsman according to Zoro)

He does not.
King is not a swordsman cause he has no technique. His sword isn’t even a proper sword but a trick blade designed to steal swords from swordsman.

Queen has more named sword techniques than King after all.

Comparing him to “Gravity Blade” Fujitora based off the blind samurai Zatoichi is a huge false equivalency

 

[RyoQ]

King is not a swordsman cause he has no technique. His sword isn’t even a proper sword but a trick blade designed to steal swords from swordsman.

Zolo said King putting teeth on his sword doesn't fall under "traditional techniques"

but literal meteor strikes would?

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If he's not a swordsman, then why do we always see him fight with his sword?

King always fights with a sword, isn't a swordsmen

If he doesn't always fight with a sword, neither does Fujitora with his meteors and shockwaves

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I doubt it. Blackbeard is careless but he’s shown to be careful around abilities that actually intimidate him like Sakazuki Kuzans and Boas. Luffy I just don’t think scares him because he sees Luffys bounty and knows he can take that.


Yes but being based on one of the most famous swordsman in Japanese media, having a supreme grade blade, having a sword style mixing fruit and swordsmanship, and even using your sword to channel gravity to summon meteors makes it pretty clear what Fujis main fighting style is

I don't believe he's dumb enough to scale off of bounties alone though.

 

[RyoQ]

Zoro literally fucking told us what counts as a swordsman and what not

If you use traditional techniques you count, anything else not

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I don't believe he's dumb enough to scale off of bounties alone though.

He is. He scaled Luffy off bounty pre timeskip and still scales characters off of bounties.

Remember that’s how the entire verse power scales is via bounty.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He is. He scaled Luffy off bounty pre timeskip and still scales characters off of bounties.

Remember that’s how the entire verse power scales is via bounty.

Really? That's weird.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Really? That's weird.

It’s only weird to readers cause we know the very few exceptions. Like Buggy and Robin.