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Prime Xebec/Prime Roger/Prime WB vs Fleet Admiral Akainu


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#1
In MF , Oda had to put several handicaps on WB to make the story interesting:-

1)Old WB was sick & almost always surrounded by medical equipments and nurses & Oda drew many other scenes and lines emphasizing that Wb's sickness was weakening him a lot. Even Crocodile & Marco confirmed that later etc.

2)He got stabbed by Squardo.

3)He got heart attack due to his health issues mid fight at the unluckiest & worst possible time. (i.e. when facing Akainu)

4)Akainu encashed on this opportunity and dealt a huge blow on WB...a chance that he got for free & WB took even more damage.

5)WB was shown to be so weak that he couldnt even activate his basic CoC to save Ace from execution twice let alone his Acoc. So he fought without Acoc in MF.


^^ Despite of the above handicaps an old & sick near dead WB temporarily 2 KOd Akainu after Ace died.

After Akainu was hit by WB's island splitter , having taken that hit , Akainu became so weak that he wasn't even strong enough to prevent himself from falling into the crack. Just like fodder marines around him at that very moment who also were falling into that crack , yes Akainu had become as weak as them since they were also unable to prevent themselves from falling into the crack. All Akainu could do was say "Damn you Whitebeard". Thats as good as accepting defeat in Akainu's own words. Yes after a while he recovered enough strength to be able to overpower ivankov & some wb commanders.
And no dont say that Oh but Akainu wanted to kill Luffy first. Yeah he wanted to sure. But when WB landed his first punch , Akainu accepted the challenge and blew WB's head off (old sick & near dead WB was very slow since he couldnt dodge squardo's attack either) so Akainu clearly wanted to fight WB at that moment but after getting overwhelmed by WB's island splitter he was shut down & all he could say at that point was "Damn you WB" lol.



Shanks or Kaido wont be getting heart attack mid battle vs any Admiral. They will fight without the above 5 handicaps vs Akainu. Old & sick & near dead WB even with the above 5 handicaps still overwhelmed Akainu & sent him straight into the huge crack created by his island splitter move. So Kaido & Shanks will perform much better than that old sick & near dead WB.

>>Shanks/Kaido/& even just an old WB without the above 5 handicaps(eg. an Old WB who could use Acoc, who is not sick , who is not stabbed by squardo, who does not get heart attack & akainu doesnt get to weaken him by getting a lucky chance to land a free hit on wb) definitely mid diff Akainu.

>>Prime Xebec/Roger/WB low diff Akainu at the minimum because Prime WB had got to be much much stronger than even the old WB, let alone compared to an old sick & near dead WB with 5 handicaps set on him throughout the war.

>>Akainu looks headed to be in all likelihood not even be the final main villan of Luffy. Sabo vs Akainu a rematch of mera mera & magma df seems more likely right now. Imu(who is most likely the King of the World which is what Xebec's ambition was) & 5 Gorosei look to be Luffy's final villans.

>>None of the Admirals have Acoc and we saw how much boost acoc gives in luffy vs kaido fight. Kaido even said it himself in the end that Haki rules above everything else. And Admirals are primarily df heavy fighters primarily. They definitely have strong haki but them so far not having Acoc bodes very poorly for them vs Kaido/shanks with Acoc let alone PK Roger who must have been even stronger than a "mere yonko".
Old& sick Wb was a mere yonko but Prime WB was Roger's equal.<-buggy's words .

>>Damage tanking feats of old&sick Wb, BM & Kaido are far more impressive than what Admirals have shown so far.


But despite all of the above Admirals might still not be shown to be low diffed because they are great villans & them being low diffed will dehype them a lot & oda isnt that bad of a writer.

Character wise i love Admirals more than certain yonkos like BM but power wise Yonkos with their Acoc & tanking feats trump easily over Admirals in my book & has been implictly suggested in the manga & i listed above just a few of those evidences.

To Conclude:- Prime Xebec/Roger/WB >> Old Wb(with Acoc, without sickness,without squardo stab, without mid battle heart attack,without taking damage by akainu's free hit which he got as a lucky chance due to wb getting heart attack at the worst moment possible)/shanks/kaido >> MF near dead WB (who despite of the above 5 handicaps overwhelmed Akainu with the island splitter.....later feats that Akainu did are irrelevant to what went down between near dead old sick Wb vs Akainu)>Akainu.









Tldr:-

>>MF near dead WB (who despite of the above 5 handicaps (see first 5 points handicaps that oda set on MF WB) overwhelmed Akainu with the island splitter.....later feats that Akainu did are irrelevant to what went down between near dead old sick Wb vs Akainu)>Akainu.
^^ This version of WB (i.e. old sick MF WB <- called the strongest man even by MF sengoku)extreme diffs Akainu .

>>Shanks/Kaido/Old Wb(with Acoc, without sickness,without squardo stab, without mid battle heart attack,without taking damage by akainu's free hit which he got as a lucky chance due to wb getting heart attack at the worst moment possible) >> Akainu
^^ They high diff Akainu

>>Prime WB who has gotta be far more stronger than an old version of himself >>> Akainu. So Prime Xebec/Prime Roger/Prime WB belong to PK tier (A tier above even the Yonko Shanks/Kaido). These Monsters low diff Akainu.

Vote & let me know your thoughts. Plus you know recent spoilers lol. Wont mention them ofcourse but lets just say i am happy with them lol.
 
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#4
Akainu is just Akainu

We have Strongest Man, Strongest Creature, Worst Criminal, Greatest Swordsmen, Marine Hero, Sengoku with DF of a God, Sun God Nika, Pirate King, Captain of Rocks, Shanks CoC speaks for him, BB is Strongest DF User, Imu Sama, Big Mom who is as strong as Kaido ... etc

If you also count others like Rayleigh, Beckman, Zoro, Sabo ... etc who are seen as strong as their Captains by many Fans

Not to mention we still haven't seen Power of Kong, Bald Gorosei, King of Elbaf, Lurking Legend, Weevil ... etc

Akainu is a very overrated character imo, he isn't even Top 20 of the Characters we heard about so far, many in their Prime can mid diff him at worst
 
#5
You’re on crack if you think WB/Roger/Xebec low/mid Prime Akainu
In MF , Oda had to put several handicaps on WB to make the story interesting:-

1)Old WB was sick & almost always surrounded by medical equipments and nurses & Oda drew many other scenes and lines emphasizing that Wb's sickness was weakening him a lot. Even Crocodile & Marco confirmed that later etc.

2)He got stabbed by Squardo.

3)He got heart attack due to his health issues mid fight at the unluckiest & worst possible time. (i.e. when facing Akainu)

4)Akainu encashed on this opportunity and dealt a huge blow on WB...a chance that he got for free & WB took even more damage.

5)WB was shown to be so weak that he couldnt even activate his basic CoC to save Ace from execution twice let alone his Acoc. So he fought without Acoc in MF.


^^ Despite of the above handicaps an old & sick near dead WB temporarily 2 KOd Akainu after Ace died.

>>MF near dead WB (who despite of the above 5 handicaps overwhelmed Akainu with the island splitter.....later feats that Akainu did are irrelevant to what went down between near dead old sick Wb vs Akainu)>Akainu.
^^ This version of WB (i.e. old sick MF WB <- called the strongest man even by MF sengoku) extreme diffs Akainu .
Since Sengoku himself confirmed that MF WB (old & sick) was stronger than Akainu.

>>Shanks/Kaido/Old Wb(with Acoc, without sickness,without squardo stab, without mid battle heart attack,without taking damage by akainu's free hit which he got as a lucky chance due to wb getting heart attack at the worst moment possible) >> Akainu
^^ They high diff Akainu

>>Prime WB who has gotta be far more stronger than an old version of himself >>> Akainu. So Prime Xebec/Prime Roger/Prime WB belong to PK tier (A tier above even the Yonko Shanks/Kaido). These Monsters low diff Akainu.
 
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#6
could go either way, Prime Akainu VS Prime Pirates..... this generation is surpassing Roger's according to Chinjao comment and Akainu is strongest Marine in this generation
but if there was anything, it was Oda who was favoring Pirates and WB
as we have seen the commanders shouldn't be as strong as they were shown against Admirals
WB if had no Haki then it was even more stupid cause admirals could've just blown him into pieces ... but no, it was Oda's writing who made all those contradictions, there is no way someone as slow and big as WB should be able to fight against admirals without Observation and also he shouldn't be able to deal damage or survive magma attacks with his own body
he shouldn't survive an attack to the heart in the first place
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In MF , Oda had to put several handicaps on WB to make the story interesting:-

1)Old WB was sick & almost always surrounded by medical equipments and nurses & Oda drew many other scenes and lines emphasizing that Wb's sickness was weakening him a lot. Even Crocodile & Marco confirmed that later etc.

2)He got stabbed by Squardo.

3)He got heart attack due to his health issues mid fight at the unluckiest & worst possible time. (i.e. when facing Akainu)

4)Akainu encashed on this opportunity and dealt a huge blow on WB...a chance that he got for free & WB took even more damage.

5)WB was shown to be so weak that he couldnt even activate his basic CoC to save Ace from execution twice let alone his Acoc. So he fought without Acoc in MF.


^^ Despite of the above handicaps an old & sick near dead WB temporarily 2 KOd Akainu after Ace died.

After Akainu was hit by WB's island splitter , having taken that hit , Akainu became so weak that he wasn't even strong enough to prevent himself from falling into the crack. Just like fodder marines around him at that very moment who also were falling into that crack , yes Akainu had become as weak as them since they were also unable to prevent themselves from falling into the crack. All Akainu could do was say "Damn you Whitebeard". Thats as good as accepting defeat in Akainu's own words. Yes after a while he recovered enough strength to be able to overpower ivankov & some wb commanders.
And no dont say that Oh but Akainu wanted to kill Luffy first. Yeah he wanted to sure. But when WB landed his first punch , Akainu accepted the challenge and blew WB's head off (old sick & near dead WB was very slow since he couldnt dodge squardo's attack either) so Akainu clearly wanted to fight WB at that moment but after getting overwhelmed by WB's island splitter he was shut down & all he could say at that point was "Damn you WB" lol.



Shanks or Kaido wont be getting heart attack mid battle vs any Admiral. They will fight without the above 5 handicaps vs Akainu. Old & sick & near dead WB even with the above 5 handicaps still overwhelmed Akainu & sent him straight into the huge crack created by his island splitter move. So Kaido & Shanks will perform much better than that old sick & near dead WB.

>>Shanks/Kaido/& even just an old WB without the above 5 handicaps(eg. an Old WB who could use Acoc, who is not sick , who is not stabbed by squardo, who does not get heart attack & akainu doesnt get to weaken him by getting a lucky chance to land a free hit on wb) definitely mid diff Akainu.

>>Prime Xebec/Roger/WB low diff Akainu at the minimum because Prime WB had got to be much much stronger than even the old WB, let alone compared to an old sick & near dead WB with 5 handicaps set on him throughout the war.

>>Akainu looks headed to be in all likelihood not even be the final main villan of Luffy. Sabo vs Akainu a rematch of mera mera & magma df seems more likely right now. Imu(who is most likely the King of the World which is what Xebec's ambition was) & 5 Gorosei look to be Luffy's final villans.

>>None of the Admirals have Acoc and we saw how much boost acoc gives in luffy vs kaido fight. Kaido even said it himself in the end that Haki rules above everything else. And Admirals are primarily df heavy fighters primarily. They definitely have strong haki but them so far not having Acoc bodes very poorly for them vs Kaido/shanks with Acoc let alone PK Roger who must have been even stronger than a "mere yonko".
Old& sick Wb was a mere yonko but Prime WB was Roger's equal.<-buggy's words .

>>Damage tanking feats of old&sick Wb, BM & Kaido are far more impressive than what Admirals have shown so far.


But despite all of the above Admirals might still not be shown to be low diffed because they are great villans & them being low diffed will dehype them a lot & oda isnt that bad of a writer.

Character wise i love Admirals more than certain yonkos like BM but power wise Yonkos with their Acoc & tanking feats trump easily over Admirals in my book & has been implictly suggested in the manga & i listed above just a few of those evidences.

To Conclude:- Prime Xebec/Roger/WB >> Old Wb(with Acoc, without sickness,without squardo stab, without mid battle heart attack,without taking damage by akainu's free hit which he got as a lucky chance due to wb getting heart attack at the worst moment possible)/shanks/kaido >> MF near dead WB (who despite of the above 5 handicaps overwhelmed Akainu with the island splitter.....later feats that Akainu did are irrelevant to what went down between near dead old sick Wb vs Akainu)>Akainu.









Tldr:-

>>MF near dead WB (who despite of the above 5 handicaps (see first 5 points handicaps that oda set on MF WB) overwhelmed Akainu with the island splitter.....later feats that Akainu did are irrelevant to what went down between near dead old sick Wb vs Akainu)>Akainu.
^^ This version of WB (i.e. old sick MF WB <- called the strongest man even by MF sengoku)extreme diffs Akainu .

>>Shanks/Kaido/Old Wb(with Acoc, without sickness,without squardo stab, without mid battle heart attack,without taking damage by akainu's free hit which he got as a lucky chance due to wb getting heart attack at the worst moment possible) >> Akainu
^^ They high diff Akainu

>>Prime WB who has gotta be far more stronger than an old version of himself >>> Akainu. So Prime Xebec/Prime Roger/Prime WB belong to PK tier (A tier above even the Yonko Shanks/Kaido). These Monsters low diff Akainu.

Vote & let me know your thoughts. Plus you know recent spoilers lol. Wont mention them ofcourse but lets just say i am happy with them lol.
the last attack of WB was so bad, how can you even bring that as argument of WB being stronger :gonope:
 
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You’re on crack if you think WB/Roger/Xebec low/mid Prime Akainu
Sadly for you , Akainu does not have Acoc. Even if just purely df wise he were equal to Prime WB , not having Acoc will mean he gets smashed by ppl with PK Roger lvl haki.

Acoc alone must be enough for Prime WB to beat the hell out of Akainu. Prime WB even without using his df was clashing equally with Prime PK Roger.

Non Acoc characters are just much weaker than their Acoc counterparts.
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Akainu spawns a volcano and pushes all 3 inside
Poor troll.
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could go either way, Prime Akainu VS Prime Pirates..... this generation is surpassing Roger's according to Chinjao comment and Akainu is strongest Marine in this generation
but if there was anything, it was Oda who was favoring Pirates and WB
as we have seen the commanders shouldn't be as strong as they were shown against Admirals
WB if had no Haki then it was even more stupid cause admirals could've just blown him into pieces ... but no, it was Oda's writing who made all those contradictions, there is no way someone as slow and big as WB should be able to fight against admirals without Observation and also he shouldn't be able to deal damage or survive magma attacks with his own body
he shouldn't survive an attack to the heart in the first place
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the last attack of WB was so bad, how can you even bring that as argument of WB being stronger :gonope:
Sengoku himself admitted in MF that WB was the WSM implies that Akainu must be weaker than even an old & sick WB.
 
#12
All three together can push Akainu to ext diff
I am sure when Sengoku in MF admitted that even an Old WB to be WSM , sengoku must have unintentionally hurt magma boy's feelings lol.
Forget about Prime WB with Acoc.
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Akainu is the only shot at having a Sengoku/ Garp caliber marine in Luffy’s era
I think in many cases old gen might not necessarily have new gen parallels.

They can carry old gen's will in some cases.
 
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#13
Akainu will be lucky if he finishes in the top 10 at the end of the series.

Kaidou > Akainu.
Wb prime > Akainu.
Roger > Akainu.
Xebec > Akainu.
Oden > Akainu.
Shanks > Akainu.
Black beard > Akainu.
Prime Big Mom > Akainu.
Luffy > Akainu.
Dragon > Akainu.
Mihawk > Akainu.
Prime Garp > Akainu.
Prime Sengoku > Akainu.
Prime Rayleigh > Akainu.
Im > Akainu (if you are a fighter) .
 
#14
Primary fault is that you have Xebec = Roger = WB
It should probably read Xebec => Roger => WB

Xebec - Mid-diff
Roger - High-diff
WB - Extreme-diff
 
#15
Sadly for you , Akainu does not have Acoc. Even if just purely df wise he were equal to Prime WB , not having Acoc will mean he gets smashed by ppl with PK Roger lvl haki.

Acoc alone must be enough for Prime WB to beat the hell out of Akainu. Prime WB even without using his df was clashing equally with Prime PK Roger.

Non Acoc characters are just much weaker than their Acoc counterparts.
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Poor troll.
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Sengoku himself admitted in MF that WB was the WSM implies that Akainu must be weaker than even an old & sick WB.
it was a title he gained during his prime when Roger was alive, WB himself proved/declared that he is not strongest man, twice

1: He mentioned that garp is just a shell of his former self as he is old now, so don't be afraid of his title "Hero of Marines"
2: WB himself said I am not the strongest anymore when crocodile said why are you weak

both these statements specifically means it was just a title he had achieved during his prime and it just remained with him till his old days when he was weak as he was not defeated by anyone so he didn't lose the title..... Mihawk will remain WSS even if there are stronger characters than him as long as they don't defeat Mihawk (just like some people consider Shanks to be stronger but he hasn't defeated Mihawk so Mihawk is WSS)

(beside all of these it was mentioned in Ace novel that the title was given to WB because of his very strongest crew and allies, which I don't want to focus on too much and which is the reason he was called WSM even when Roger was alive)

Non Acoc characters are just much weaker than their Acoc counterparts.
do you consider Law weaker than Kidd in any way ? it is the other way around for most of fandom I believe
besides it is just your assumption that they don't have COC, you can say that about Mihawk too who was rival of CoC Shanks, It is very much possible that all admirals have CoC just like Sengoku
 
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