Controversial Questions about Mihawk not going to Wano : Answer them

Santoryu D Bazooka

Santoryu D Bazooka

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Yaay another Mihawk thread ... I just copied my reply in this thread here

Don't reply if you have no answer to these questions. Feel free to add to them.

So how do you even know if he ever visited wano or not?

This argument shows you how desperate people can be.. :gokulaugh:

Your argument/point will only be valid if you can answer these questions:-

- Where in the story do we know that Mihawk never tried or visited Wano?
- How can Mihawk make it to Wano with his tiny boat?
- How can Mihawk find Wano when Roger (20+ years of sailing) never did until Oden joined him?
- Why would Mihawk go to Wano when Kaido is ruling it and no Samurai was able to push Kaido off Wano?
- Why would Mihawk risk fighting all of Kaido's crew including Kaido himself just to fight a Samurai?

Now tell me again how its bad writing when you take into account all of the above? WHEN we have no IDEA if he did or did not :milaugh:

What if he went in stealthy and found no one to fight? then again how in the world would he ever make it there alone.

There is a reason Why Mihawk is the way he is. "ALONE" he can't do shit other than fight and you bet he has a vivre card of Shanks thats how he finds him.
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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The Problem with Mihawk Haters is that They think He is looking to Fight a Top Tier, that's False
He is looking for "Someone Superior Than Shanks"

SHs Dreams are just an Excuse for Oda to Draw what He believes is his Peak Imagination
All Blue is gonna be Oda's Ultimate Location, One Piece is what He believes to be Ultimate Treasure, Chopper's Dream is what Oda believes to be Ultimate Cure, Void Century is his Peak Flashback, Franky's Final Invention is his Peak Technology ... etc

Zoro vs Mihawk is Oda's Idea of Ultimate/Peak Duel, so it needs to include Fighting Skills beyond Top Tiers (Actually even before OP Started, Oda said that He always wanted to Draw Samurai vs Knight Duel, it's his Idea of Ultimate Face-Off & it represents East (Japan) vs West)

So Mihawk isn't looking to Fight Yonko or Old Legends or Warlords or Holy Knights or Revos ... etc
He wants Someone who Outclasses Shanks, not even Comparable, and so far there is None (Regardless if Swordsman or Not)

And it was Pretty Clear since East Blue Saga that Only Three Characters are Confirmed to be Above Mihawk EOS, They are Luffy, Zoro & Final Villain + Maybe Secondary Villain (If there is One similar to BM in Wano & Oars in Thriller Bark)

But for now, the World never heard of anyone who is Beyond Top Tier, that's why Mihawk is Bored & only interested in having a Quiet Life (Armies can still Defeat him, so He doesn't want such Attention)
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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Salah WG said:
The Problem with Mihawk Haters is that They think He is looking to Fight a Top Tier, that's False
He is looking for "Someone Superior Than Shanks"

SHs Dreams are just an Excuse for Oda to Draw what He believes is his Peak Imagination
All Blue is gonna be Oda's Ultimate Location, One Piece is what He believes to be Ultimate Treasure, Chopper's Dream is what Oda believes to be Ultimate Cure, Void Century is his Peak Flashback, Franky's Final Invention is his Peak Technology ... etc

Zoro vs Mihawk is Oda's Idea of Ultimate/Peak Duel, so it needs to include Fighting Skills beyond Top Tiers (Actually even before OP Started, Oda said that He always wanted to Draw Samurai vs Knight Duel, it's his Idea of Ultimate Face-Off & it represents East (Japan) vs West)

So Mihawk isn't looking to Fight Yonko or Old Legends or Warlords or Holy Knights or Revos ... etc
He wants Someone who Outclasses Shanks, not even Comparable, and so far there is None (Regardless if Swordsman or Not)

And it was Pretty Clear since East Blue Saga that Only Three Characters are Confirmed to be Above Mihawk EOS, They are Luffy, Zoro & Final Villain + Maybe Secondary Villain (If there is One similar to BM in Wano & Oars in Thriller Bark)

But for now, the World never heard of anyone who is Beyond Top Tier, that's why Mihawk is Bored & only interested in having a Quiet Life (Armies can still Defeat him, so He doesn't want such Attention)
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Who do you think will have a bigger final fight luffy or zoro?…
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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Albino 👑 said:
Who do you think will have a bigger final fight luffy or zoro?…
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Wdym by Bigger? U mean like using Water against Crocodile? Or being Enel's Natural Counter? Or Winning against Moria thanks to a Falling Castle & Dozen Shadows? Or Ten Rounds against Kaidou? Or Tag-Team against Doffy & then be Protected while Recharging for Round 2? Or Getting Help from Nami against Cracker? Or Run away Mid-Fight against Katakuri after receiving a Thousand Attack? ... etc

If you talking about that, then ofc Luffy's Fight gonna be Bigger
But if you talk about 1v1 Fair Duel, you already know the Answer

Luffy's Final Fight gonna be similar to Moria Fight
Zoro's Final Fight gonna be similar to Zombie Ryuma Fight

Zoro "Outskill" his Opponents
Luffy "Overcomes" his Opponents after Multiple Tries
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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Apollo said:
Shanks may be omniscient now. The last time he saw Oden he was 15, does he think that no strong Samurai could have existed in the 24 years since then?
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Kaidou Invaded Wano, it's obvious No Samurai exists who's Stronger than Kaidou
Kaidou is an Emperor just like Shanks
Mihawk ain't interested in Fighting Shanks
So why would He be interested in Fighting Samurai who were beaten by another Emperor?

Why is this so hard to grasp?
 
RayanOO

RayanOO

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Santoryu D Bazooka said:
Where in the story do we know that Mihawk never tried or visited Wano?
- How can Mihawk make it to Wano with his tiny boat?
- How can Mihawk find Wano when Roger (20+ years of sailing) never did until Oden joined him?
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Weak points

- the fact we went to Wano and never heard about Mihawk showed he never been there. If he was we would have known. It’s none sense to think otherwise.

- if Mihawk really wants he can buy a bigger boat, steal one, pay a crew to go there, coerce a crew to go there etc etc etc. The tiny boat is a stupid ass reason

- WB crew found it, Moria found it, Greenbull found it, Kaido found it, BM found it etc. If Mihawk really wanted no doubt he would have managed something. Wano is no that hidden. It’s difficult to reach and was always quite protected. But it’s not laugh tale lol




Santoryu D Bazooka said:
Why would Mihawk go to Wano when Kaido is ruling it and no Samurai was able to push Kaido off Wano?
- Why would Mihawk risk fighting all of Kaido's crew including Kaido himself just to fight a Samurai?
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Valid points

Kaido was ruling the island

Nobody managed to overthrow him so everyone was weaker than him. And Kaido isn’t a swordsman.
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But Kaido anf Dragon > Mihawk
 
CbShadow

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Here's my response I posted about whether Mihawk went to Wano or not in the other threads.

Here it is:
We have no idea if Mihawk went to Wano or not. For someone to claim he didn't go to Wano his headcannon.

Mihawk could have went to Wano looking to fight Oden. Find out he was dead and left because there was no more worthy swordsman alive for him to challenge. Days after Oden was executed the rest of the strong samurai were either killed or imprisoned by Kaido.

A Wano citizen not mentioning Mihawk doesn't mean anything. Why would they talk about Mihawk when they would be more concerned about where to get fresh food and water from and whether they will live through the night. No citizen talks about Kaido vs Moria fight so why would they talk about Mihawk that has no effect on their daily lives. They wouldn't.

If Mihawk was in Wano at some point in the story how do some of you expect a conversation about him to go? I can see it now, two random Wano citizens talking about Kaido and how they hate what he's done to their country. Then one randomly starts talking about how years ago a mysterious swordsman (Mihawk) showed up to fight Oden. After he he found out Oden was dead beat a few weak swordsman and then left upset.
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RayanOO said:
Weak points

- the fact we went to Wano and never heard about Mihawk showed he never been there. If he was we would have known. It’s none sense to think otherwise.
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Nobody talking Mihawk in Wano is not proof he never went.

Nobody talked about Moria who fought against Kaido in Wano. We only learned about their battle from the Oden flashback. There's no reason for a Wano citizen to randomly bring up Mihawk in a conversation. Whether he was there or not would have no effect on their lives. Most Wano citizens were trying to survive.

PS: One thing about One Piece that's been true throughout the entire series is we learn characters' history when it's time for Oda to reveal their history.
 
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Santoryu D Bazooka

Santoryu D Bazooka

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Apollo said:
Its not Oda's first or smallest plot hole in Wano, I don't get why you're so hung up on it.
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"So hung up on it" i rarely comment on these debates but when i see silly arguments being brought up over and over again without thinking is just meh. I asked these questions to have an actual discussion rather than just bashing said character for being a rat/scared/fraud etc lol.

And How is it a plot hole when there is no confirmation of anything? lol

RayanOO said:
Weak points

- the fact we went to Wano and never heard about Mihawk showed he never been there. If he was we would have known. It’s none sense to think otherwise.
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No why would we have known? Whos in Wano knows about the outside world other than Kaido's crew? Moria was a big news in Wano because he fought Kaido directly. If Mihawk made it there and found no one to fight and left would anyone have known aside from Kaido's crew? So whos going to tell us about Mihawk coming there?

RayanOO said:
- if Mihawk really wants he can buy a bigger boat, steal one, pay a crew to go there, coerce a crew to go there etc etc etc. The tiny boat is a stupid ass reason
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True but then he needs competent people to get him there. Or even hitch a ride with any crew but again can they even escort him there?
Would Mihawk ask Shanks for a ride? or any competent crew?

Now this point can be also be linked with taking Kaido's rule into factor too.

RayanOO said:
- WB crew found it, Moria found it, Greenbull found it, Kaido found it, BM found it etc. If Mihawk really wanted no doubt he would have managed something. Wano is no that hidden. It’s difficult to reach and was always quite protected. But it’s not laugh tale lol
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They could be weak ass reasons But without thinking of them is also stupid thinking that anyone can make it there so easily. These Big Names you listed even found it where Roger himself didn't so whats the reason then?

Kaido - BM - Moria are all full crews who possibly found a way to it. Greenbull has the whole navy data archives and can fly too its easy for him.

Whitebeard made it by chance without even knowing that "Wano" Existed.

RayanOO said:
Valid points

Kaido was ruling the island

Nobody managed to overthrow him so everyone was weaker than him. And Kaido isn’t a swordsman.
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At least we can agree on one point here. One of the reasons could be that its a big Risk to fight a whole Yonkou crew knowing that this crew rules the country of swordsman.
 
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