Powers & Abilities Raid Suit: instant power-up or not?

[uyuu]

I dont know whether this topic has been discussed or not. There is some people that view Enma as a pure training wheel, some others view Enma as pure power-up. I think, for Zoro, it's a bit of both. A sword that, if used correctly, will be superior to Zoro's previous sword due to its (maybe) sharpness, hardness, demonic spirit, etc.

Meanwhile, imo many people view the Raid Suit as an instant power-up. I slightly disagree with this. It doesnt have side effect that sucks haki (Enma), but it's a piece of sophisticated technology. Doesn't technology requires a competence / mastery to use correctly? Like if you dont know how to activate and control the speed boosters, wouldn't it be harmful to yourself in the fight? Like too uncontrollably fast and hitting the wall or passing by the enemy without able to deal damage to him, that sort of thing?

How do you think about this? Is Raid suit a free power-up? A precision and control training wheel? A mix of both?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

No. It's only give you durability and invisibilityBut I don't know why some reason people thinks that RS is a power-up while Enma is not a power-up

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

it's a free PU because sanji gains outside abilities without doing anything( ex invisibility, durability, ect.).

But ur right in the fact that it still requires training to use to it's full capacity. Otherwise sanji cant PU from here on, Well unless sanji PU from here on have nothing to do with the RS.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Here's how I see it :
Enma is like a Weight, it is a tool to train.
RS on the other hand is like a gun; instant power up.

To better wrap your head around the idea, try To picture what would both Enma and RS do to a basic human.
My vision:
RS : Fodder becomes instantly mid tier.
Enma : Fodder dies after a few attempts at using it.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

He put the RS once and his durability improvement was already noted by Sanji...
Plus the get to go details like invisibility,bullet proof ,etc.


Yeah an instant PU.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

So ya'll saying that Sanji knows how to use the RS right away?:laughmoji::laughmoji::laughmoji::laughmoji:

 

[Fn Lucci]

Here's how I see it :
Enma is like a Weight, it is a tool to train.
RS on the other hand is like a gun; instant power up.

To better wrap your head around the idea, try To picture what would both Enma and RS do to a basic human.
My vision:
RS : Fodder becomes instantly mid tier.
Enma : Fodder dies after a few attempts at using it.

I don't think fodder can use the RS, it's gotta have a genetic lock.

Not that it's all just inherent. I mean you definitely have to learn the functions and test them out without getting killed in the process.

 

[Exodia.]

Here's how I see it :
Enma is like a Weight, it is a tool to train.
RS on the other hand is like a gun; instant power up.

To better wrap your head around the idea, try To picture what would both Enma and RS do to a basic human.
My vision:
RS : Fodder becomes instantly mid tier.
Enma : Fodder dies after a few attempts at using it.

i agree for the most part but a gun still needs practice

 

[LolonoisZolo]

I don't think fodder can use the RS, it's gotta have a genetic lock.

Not that it's all just inherent. I mean you definitely have to learn the functions and test them out without getting killed in the process.

Even if it was locked genetically, the actual RS was ''locked'' for Sanji right ? so instant power up.
How can it get you killed ? It didn't show any drawback.

i agree for the most part but a gun still needs practice

Sure but it has no drawback so you can keep trying until you master it. At worst case it is a nice cosplay costume lol

 

[Exodia.]

Even if it was locked genetically, the actual RS was ''locked'' for Sanji right ? so instant power up.
How can it get you killed ? It didn't show any drawback.


Sure but it has no drawback so you can keep trying until you master it. At worst case it is a nice cosplay costume lol

yeah

 

[ranady]

Yeah it is. Imagine you become more durable and faster in instant without any effort. Moreover it adds more feature like invisibility and you can fly without wasting ur energy.

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

isn't the RS suit made specifically for sanji?

If a random put it on, hes not going to suddenly be able to use its flight, boost, and invisibility abilities to there normal capacity. unless he's already adapted at that type of fighting. Let's not get cared away here.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

isn't the RS suit made specifically for sanji? If a random put it on, hes not going to suddenly be able to use its flight, boost, and invisibility abilities to there normal capacity. unless he's already adapted at that type of fighting. Let's not get cared away here.

Finally someone with a brain here:cheers:

 

[LolonoisZolo]

isn't the RS suit made specifically for sanji?

If a random put it on, hes not going to suddenly be able to use its flight, boost, and invisibility abilities to there normal capacity. unless he's already adapted at that type of fighting. Let's not get cared away here.

Finally someone with a brain here:cheers:

Isn't it Sanji using the RS ?
If the RS was ''locked'' to Franky wouldn't it be an instant power up as Well ?
The RS would have been harder To use if it was generic but being genetically locked makes it even better don't you think?

 

[bennbeckman]

Of course it is, it's an outside powerup, it increases users durability along with making it invisible.

 

[Lunaria]

As we saw in his fight against Page One, the suit increases his strength, speed and durability and allowed him to become invisible. So yes, I think it's an instant power up and it doesn't matter whether Sanji's natural skills helped him use it effectively, the suit still increases his stats regardless.

 

[pedxi]

As we saw in his fight against Page One, the suit increases his strength, speed and durability and allowed him to become invisible. So yes, I think it's an instant power up and it doesn't matter whether Sanji's natural skills helped him use it effectively, the suit still increases his stats regardless.

where was it stated RS increases his strength

 

[Lunaria]

where was it stated RS increases his strength

That's how acceleration works. The impulse produced by the accelerators increases his speed and striking power so his strength is higher.

 

[RecoomeBoom]

It's an instant powerup but everything is an instant powerup. Luffy flashback to Rayleigh mid fight is no different. Zoro asura, same thing.

If Sanji developed exo skeleton and invisibly fast speed during a fight, it'd be the same thing as the RS but without the RS. Both are instant powerups.

 

[pedxi]

That's how acceleration works. The impulse produced by the accelerators increases his speed and striking power so his strength is higher.

where did you read that?