Powers & Abilities Raid Suit: instant power-up or not?
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a sword that sucks your energy when you do not pay attention or do not know how to control yourself.
a suit that turns you invisible, enhances your speed and also makes you more durable.
seems like Enma is nerf more than a power up while the RS is a straight boost in stats with no training, skill or knowledge requirement.
Enma = a sword. one that Zoro was adviced to not take. one that needs to be tamed to be useful
RS = a direct powerup for people who can not even use CoA on Bellamys level
a sword that sucks your energy when you do not pay attention or do not know how to control yourself.
a suit that turns you invisible, enhances your speed and also makes you more durable.
seems like Enma is nerf more than a power up while the RS is a straight boost in stats with no training, skill or knowledge requirement.
Enma = a sword. one that Zoro was adviced to not take. one that needs to be tamed to be useful
RS = a direct powerup for people who can not even use CoA on Bellamys level
Yes of course, as others have mentioned you instantly get a slew of abilities that you wouldn't have been able to train for even if you wanted to. You can't exactly train to be invisible or have jet boosters on your feet.
Enma is basically a hyperbolic time chamber for haki, it's still a power up, but it feels nowhere near as cheap as the raid suit did since it's Zoro's own power.
However, I could have forgiven this power up in a can, if Sanji had actually struggled to use it since that was hinted at when he first discovered it on the ship. But he put it on with barely a second though and was instantly given a reason to fall in love with it and never have any issues with putting it on again (invisibility). Oda removed the mental block within 10 seconds of putting it on, that made it even worse.
Enma is basically a hyperbolic time chamber for haki, it's still a power up, but it feels nowhere near as cheap as the raid suit did since it's Zoro's own power.
However, I could have forgiven this power up in a can, if Sanji had actually struggled to use it since that was hinted at when he first discovered it on the ship. But he put it on with barely a second though and was instantly given a reason to fall in love with it and never have any issues with putting it on again (invisibility). Oda removed the mental block within 10 seconds of putting it on, that made it even worse.
I think some people don't understand what power-up is.
Power-Ups for Sanji are increased Durability, Speed, Strike Force (Acceleration) and Invisibility. RS is a POWER tool that gives you these power-ups.
Regarding Enma, it a TRAINING tool that gives you a power-up, stronger Haki once you master it + you yourself should be strong enough to not die of exhaustion.
The difference between a power tool and training tool is that without Raid Suit, Sanji can't have those Durability, Speed, Strike Force and Invisibility, while Zoro's Haki will be as strong, as it is after mastering Enma even without Enma itself.
And yes, all those power-ups are instant, does not require any training and will be gone without RS.
Power-Ups for Sanji are increased Durability, Speed, Strike Force (Acceleration) and Invisibility. RS is a POWER tool that gives you these power-ups.
Regarding Enma, it a TRAINING tool that gives you a power-up, stronger Haki once you master it + you yourself should be strong enough to not die of exhaustion.
The difference between a power tool and training tool is that without Raid Suit, Sanji can't have those Durability, Speed, Strike Force and Invisibility, while Zoro's Haki will be as strong, as it is after mastering Enma even without Enma itself.
And yes, all those power-ups are instant, does not require any training and will be gone without RS.
IMO, Instant power-up means that if you get a power from some tools, training or whatever it is, you're already understand how to use it properly and the side effects from moments you get that power itself. For Enma, even though Enma was being crafted by the same person that crafting Wado, Zoro needs to learn the side effects of Enma like how to control his haki in order to control Enma. Same goes for Raid Suit, i know that with Raid Suit it'll give you strong durabillity, speed and invincibility but Sanji need learn how to use Raid suit in order to fit the suit with his fighting style and his DJ. So yes, Enma and Raid Suit are power-up but not instant one
Sanji's Raid Suit: Instant power up + it can be furthur mastered with better control...etc
Zoro's Enma: Through mastering it, you get to become stronger
Both are ways to get more powerful, but the means are slightly different... But Sanji's suit can boost you instantly, you can't really deny that unless you:
- Hate on Germa suit
- You just wanna debate about something unimportant that Zoro fans bring up about Zoro strength is from him alone and Sanji needed power boost through technology (which honestly.. who cares... if you're not a priviliged prince, just shut the fuck up Lol, we are priviliged, we like it that way hahaha)
Zoro's Enma: Through mastering it, you get to become stronger
Both are ways to get more powerful, but the means are slightly different... But Sanji's suit can boost you instantly, you can't really deny that unless you:
- Hate on Germa suit
- You just wanna debate about something unimportant that Zoro fans bring up about Zoro strength is from him alone and Sanji needed power boost through technology (which honestly.. who cares... if you're not a priviliged prince, just shut the fuck up Lol, we are priviliged, we like it that way hahaha)
Let’s make this simple.
Raid Suit :
Raid Suit :
- Bullet Proof Cape - increases durability
- Accelerometers - increase momentum == increases strength
- Fire resistant shape memory alloy
- Invisibility (Sanji’s dream)
- None of the above require training
- Saps the Haki from it’s wielder (if the user doesn’t have a large haki pool they will become a dry husk)
- The sword is nothing more than a hindrance and more of a training tool then a power up