General & Others Rank the Hokages

RayanOO

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TheAncientCenturion

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I’ll rank them by two criteria. What they did as Hokage and their potential for some of them.
  1. Hiruzen Sarutobi
  2. Tobirama Senju
  3. Hashirama Senju
  4. Minato Namikaze
  5. Tsunade Senju
  6. Hatake Kakashi

Hiruzen comes in first because he has been Hokage for most of Konoha’s reign and has maintained a strong village despite it. He is far from flawless but Hiruzen has always been the Hokage ready to sacrifice himself in any scenario—as a kid, against the Kyuubi, against Orochimaru. He’s also responsible for safe guarding and the partial education of most of the Shinobi we’ve seen. We know that Hiruzen took a big interest in the upcoming generations. He has faults—The Uchiha Massacre and Orochimaru namely. But he tried negotiations with the former as long as he could. Orochimaru is his one big mistake.

Despite not liking him, Tobirama did 2 things very well. 1, he started the Chuunin exams to help prepare fresh genin for challenges in their career. Likewise the is went in to be a massive political and economic event. 2, he nominated Hiruzen as his successor. Which is some great insight. He did bad too—alienating the Uchiha clan, even unintentionally, led them down to their ultimate fate.

Hashirama didn’t do much IMO. He founded the village and defended it against Madara. That’s all great—but when it comes to ensuring the village can grow, I think he was lackluster. We don’t know what he did to push the village forward once he was Hokage. He also gave away 7 Bijuu. Big mistake.

If he ruled linger, he’d be #2. It’s implied that Minato would’ve solved the Uchiha situation pretty well. His power would’ve thwarted Orochimaru. He seemed like he’d be a good mix between Jiraiya and Tsunade Hokage wise. But, that’s all his potential.

Tsunade came in at a bad time and didn’t last long. She did well enough for the situations she was faced with, but beyond that I’m not sure what else she did. She did what any Hokage would’ve done.

Kakashi is last cause he’s filler for Naruto to be Hokage
 
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RayanOO said:
Not power level related

Who is the best hokage Konoha had during all its years ? Rank the 7th of them. The most efficient, capable, better suited to rule etc etc etc

Hashi, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Tsunade, Kakashi and Naruto

Rank them !

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1. Minato.
2. Hashirama.
3. Tobirama.
4. Naruto.

Kakashi, Tsunade, and Hiruzen to the bin.
 
RayanOO

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TheAncientCenturion said:
Despite not liking him, Tobirama did 2 things very well. 1, he started the Chuunin exams to help prepare fresh genin for challenges in their career. Likewise the is went in to be a massive political and economic event. 2, he nominated Hiruzen as his successor. Which is some great insight. He did bad too—alienating the Uchiha clan, even unintentionally, led them down to their ultimate fate.

Hashirama didn’t do much IMO. He founded the village and defended it against Madara. That’s all great—but when it comes to ensuring the village can grow, I think he was lackluster. We don’t know what he did to push the village forward once he was Hokage. He also gave away 7 Bijuu. Big mistake.
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Wasn’t it Hashirama who got the chunin in exam idea ? Creating ranks, and giving missions given the skills etc ? When he talked with Madara on the mountain as kids

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and I think overall Tsunade did a really fine job. She is a warrior, a doc, she can think on her two feet and she is kind and had enough guts to put the elders in their place.

I think she is a really fine hokage
 
Marimo_420

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1. Tobirama












2. The rest.

Tobirama was the one who implemented the systems and foundations of what a hidden village should look like. He shaped everything with realism while his brother was out their spouting bs from a fairy tale. While his system wasn't perfect, it allowed for clans to co-exsist without resorting to killing one another for resources and allowed for "peace" to happen.

His ideas were so great the rest of the countries and power houses across the world stole his ideas. And guess what? They propersed off of that too.
 
RayanOO

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Marimo_420 said:
1. Tobirama












2. The rest.

Tobirama was the one who implemented the systems and foundations of what a hidden village should look like. He shaped everything with realism while his brother was out their spouting bs from a fairy tale. While his system wasn't perfect, it allowed for clans to co-exsist without resorting to killing one another for resources and allowed for "peace" to happen.

His ideas were so great the rest of the countries and power houses across the world stole his ideas. And guess what? They propersed off of that too.
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anon

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1.Tobirama: he was the smartest, most capable and the realistic one unlike his brother who was overly optimistic. He founded the ninja academy, the konoha police force to keep the village safe and also pacify the uchiha, created the anbu to do the dirty work and created the chunin exams.
2.Sarutobi: He served as the leader the longest and oversaw the rise of the legendary sannin, minato, whitefang, kakashi etc etc. Uchiha clan coup was something years in the making and not really his fault. Tho he could have done better in dealing with the situation.
3.Minato: Although his reign was short, the words "yellow flash" inspired fear in the hearts of the enemies. he didn't get a chance to do much but it is implied that he would have prevented the uchiha massacre.
4.Kakashi.
5:Tsunade.
6.Hashirama: He was overly optimistic in his views toward peace which backfired on him. He gave the tailed beast to other villages to pacify them and keep the balance of power equal as to avoid a war over them. But as shown, his efforts were in vain with the onset of First shinobi war in which he died. It was an incredibly stupid thing to do as a leader.
7. Naruto: Last because he is 2xHashirama.
 
Xlaw

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Hiruzen : He was the best Hokage. In my opinion.
Tobirama : He was more practical , compared to Hashirama.
Minato : died early but protected village
Tsunade : She did best of her capabilities
Hashirama : founder so yeah he deserve this spot but died early. But was optimistic
Kakashi : don't know much
Naruto : don't know much
 
Marimo_420

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RayanOO said:
:kayneshrug:

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Is it his fault that the Uchiha are the way they are? He's the one that understands the clan the most. He understands them better than most of the Uchiha clan. All he did was five then an outlet for their power hungry ways by giving them a position of power.
 
Jiihad

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  1. Tobirama/Hiruzen
  2. Minato
  3. Hashirama
  4. Tsunade
  5. Kakashi
Tobirama had his faults(Uchiha isolation) but he gave tha village structure and created tha Chunnin exams etc so I’d say he was tha most pragmatic of tha Hokage we seen so far

Hiruzen is tha longest tenured for a reason and was ALWAYS thinking bout what was tha best course of action for his people. He was never hesitant to be tha sacrificial lamb if it ensured tha village and its peoples survival. Not to mention under his rule: Minato, Jiraiya, Tsunade, Orochimaru, Kakashi, Itachi all grew into Kage lvl shinobi

Hashirama, while a God lvl shinobi and tha strongest Hokage(barring Naruto obviously) he meant well but was too trusting and optimistic. He didn’t kill Madara when he should’ve (which eventually led to tha 4th Great War) and he gave away 7 Nuclear weapons basically assuming people who lie, Kill and deceive for a living would’ve saints with that kind of military power at their finger tips

Tsunade didn’t really have too many blunders during her reign as a Kage. But conversely she didn’t have any ground breaking accomplishments when she got tha hat

Kakashi I Kant really comment on since imo watch Boruto
 
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What is Tobirama’s fault exactly? He was the main reason village(s) were able to survive this long without reverting back to ancient clan wars. He was right about being careful with Uchihas, just look at Obito and Madara and you will see why.
“He killed Izuna and became the cause of Madara’s corruption” Well, Izuna was trying to kill him, it was self defense during a war! What was he supposed to do, say that Izuna could gladly kill him and both clans would live happily ever after? It is Madara’s idiocy to blame Tobirama for the cause of Izuna’s death. His idea of a village where clan members gather for a larger community by shedding the identity of the clan is also not that bad. He even gave Uchihas a job with which they would be able to practice this idea and was perfectly willing to work together with Uchihas who were able to do so (like Kagami). It is Danzo and the elders who corrupted 2nd Hokage’s ideals and justified their self centered actions by declaring Uchihas as enemy of the state.
Hiruzen was too soft and Hashirama was too idealistic. All villages have its dark and dirty sides and Hiruzen/Hashirama needed Danzo/Elders/Tobirama to take care of it, just like Naruto needs Sasuke/Shikamaru for the same purpose. However, unlike Tobirama/Sasuke and Shikamaru, Danzo and elders were always prone to corruption and it was kind of Hiruzen’s fault for letting them run wild for so long.
 
Loki D. Terror

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chacharealsmooth said:
What is Tobirama’s fault exactly? He was the main reason village(s) were able to survive this long without reverting back to ancient clan wars. He was right about being careful with Uchihas, just look at Obito and Madara and you will see why.
“He killed Izuna and became the cause of Madara’s corruption” Well, Izuna was trying to kill him, it was self defense during a war! What was he supposed to do, say that Izuna could gladly kill him and both clans would live happily ever after? It is Madara’s idiocy to blame Tobirama for the cause of Izuna’s death. His idea of a village where clan members gather for a larger community by shedding the identity of the clan is also not that bad. He even gave Uchihas a job with which they would be able to practice this idea and was perfectly willing to work together with Uchihas who were able to do so (like Kagami). It is Danzo and the elders who corrupted 2nd Hokage’s ideals and justified their self centered actions by declaring Uchihas as enemy of the state.
Hiruzen was too soft and Hashirama was too idealistic. All villages have its dark and dirty sides and Hiruzen/Hashirama needed Danzo/Elders/Tobirama to take care of it, just like Naruto needs Sasuke/Shikamaru for the same purpose. However, unlike Tobirama/Sasuke and Shikamaru, Danzo and elders were always prone to corruption and it was kind of Hiruzen’s fault for letting them run wild for so long.
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He isolated uchihas and was a racist lol and was indirectly responsible for uchiha extinction :suresure:
 
BakiDou

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Tobirama nr 1:jordanmf:
I would add also that tobirama was way to merciful with the uchihas. Not only that he saw most of his friends die at the hand of uchihas but he also saw the extermination perspective of Madara, to put it simple if Madara was a little bit stronger, the entire hashirama clan would have been destroyed, and possible the rest of the clans also.:ronalugh:
Tobirama didnt wipe out the uchiha clan, in fact he made a sector in the leaf village just for them, he didnt forced them to stay there tho,
the uchihas could have move in another location as long as they would be chill and not start a random war again.
But they chose to stay in the leaf village and be ``marginalized``.
Well, he played it rly cool with the uchihas, considering their potential danger.:watchout:
On top of that, the dude was a genius, invented so many jutsus that the leaf village has an entire archive with his inventions. Some of those jutsus are crazy powerful, like the reanimation jutsu, teleportation, shadow clone jutsu, etc.
He also invented the current functional systems of Kanoha, from public ninja schools to hidden associations that works from shadows just for the sake of the village. The dude is a genius, and the only hokage who needs to be mentioned on the same tier as him is Naruto who actually stopped a world war basically.:crazwhat:
The rest of the hokages are just there to keep the position and thats all. Any respectable ninja from Kanoha can do what Tsunade did for exemple, if you put Might Guy or Ibisu in the place of Tsunade it would be the same shet.
If you put Tsunade in Tobiramas place back in the warring period of Tobirama, the Kanoha would have been destroyed.:goatasure:
 
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