Speculations Recent chapter proved Zoro has adCoO

#42
let's not invent things, he reacted with coating haki the moment the explosion started, so Apoo has also futur sight for aplying haki to protect from the SHIGAN ???
 
#43
He used armament before king blow up not even knowing of hes suck ability. And coated himself right where beak hitted. Future Sight? So far better showing than Luffy in Wano

He used future sight when he said "I cant win!!! (without Oden magical sword)" :myman::myman::myman:
 
#47
Well, his Reactions to certain things does seem to indicate he have Great CoO
Such as:

1. Saving O-Tsuru from Batman's Arrow (Sneak Attack)
2. Prepared himself in time for Hakai
3. Reacted to King's Sudden Explosion
4. Went to save Luffy from BM's & Kaido's Fire (Twice) before they Attacked
5. Defended himself from Kawamatsu's Sneak Attack
6. Found an Opening to hit Hawkins in the head while in Combat
7. He was the one who told Sanji & Co. to go to Live Stage
... etc
He saw something wrong with Lanji's eyebrows before they changed. :shame:
 
#49
He didn't just sense the object, he sensed someone's presence too.

CoO works for sensing living presences and that helps dodging non living things but as direct consequence.
He didn't sense anybody's presence, if I recall correctly. If you meant he sensed Bonez, he didn't: he could hear the breath of his inert steel, but the living presence of the guy himself.

Observation doesn't work with objects as they lack intent, hence why Enel couldn't predict Luffy's random attack or why the environment disappears but living auras remain when a character is "seeing" through it (Fujitora, Usopp). Zoro even states he isn't sensing presence but something different he can only label as the breath of things. Only future sight gives you a detailed image of what is going to happen, but that's totally different and doesn't fit either as it doesn't involve "sensing" nor "feeling" presences but seeing directly.

The breath of things clearly wasn't conceived as haki, just retconned as such in such a cheap and unexplained way that any attempt at making any sense of it will fall short and, therefore, using it to assure Zoro awakened observation in the first part of the journey is pointless and dishonest.

Then what is it?
An obviously retconned power that makes no sense as any form of haki. And a wasted opportunity to build something interesting with swordsmanship, too.
 
#50
Its :choppawhat:not adcoo before it explode king belly being to swell up plus king gave away it say you hit the rite spot, zoro ant got sh*t because if he did had it he would know not to stab king because he would just blow up:sanmoji:
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Literally set off an explosion INSIDE his mouth.

Zoro would get his head clean blown off.

Luffy can tank explosions. Zoro needs CoA, or he'd die.
That's a weak explosion king own was mountain level
 
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Finalbeta

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#52
He didn't sense anybody's presence, if I recall correctly. If you meant he sensed Bonez, he didn't: he could hear the breath of his inert steel, but the living presence of the guy himself.

Observation doesn't work with objects as they lack intent, hence why Enel couldn't predict Luffy's random attack or why the environment disappears but living auras remain when a character is "seeing" through it (Fujitora, Usopp). Zoro even states he isn't sensing presence but something different he can only label as the breath of things. Only future sight gives you a detailed image of what is going to happen, but that's totally different and doesn't fit either as it doesn't involve "sensing" nor "feeling" presences but seeing directly.

The breath of things clearly wasn't conceived as haki, just retconned as such in such a cheap and unexplained way that any attempt at making any sense of it will fall short and, therefore, using it to assure Zoro awakened observation in the first part of the journey is pointless and dishonest.



An obviously retconned power that makes no sense as any form of haki. And a wasted opportunity to build something interesting with swordsmanship, too.
Haki is not about sensing inanimate objects' presence.

Haki is about sensing the presence of living things. But my point stands since the man stood there so I don't see where you are going here.

Sensing the sword helps finding someone's location assuming that was exclusively BoAT.
 
#53
Haki is not about sensing inanimate objects' presence.
Yet what Zoro did in Arabasta was sensing the breath of tons of inanimate objects, therefore...

Haki is about sensing the presence of living things. But my point stands since the man stood there so I don't see where you are going here.
And Zoro didn't sense the presence of Bonez but the breath of the inanimate steel of his body, therefore...

Sensing the sword helps finding someone's location assuming that was exclusively BoAT.
Is the breath of things observation haki? Is dodging the falling ruble, which lacks intent behind it, evidence of Zoro using it? How did he knew where it'd fall through sensing living presences, and what living presences did he feel to do so, or when he felt any other inanimate object's breath?
 
#55
:seriously:

How can I explain it more easily than how I did...
Or you explained yourself poorly, which is also a possibility.

Let's try direct questions: what living presence did Zoro sense during his Arabasta fight? In your post, you shared a page of Zoro knowing where the stones would fall and where his sword was. In what exact way do those panels support his use of observation?
 
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Finalbeta

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#59
Less memes and more answers to my question:

Whose living presence did Zoro feel in Arabasta as proof of his observation haki?
Did you modify your previous post because you had realized you had typed something stupid? :cheers:

I did already provide you an exhaustive answer, just look back at it.
 
#60
Did you modify your previous post because you had realized you had typed something stupid? :cheers:

I did already provide you an exhaustive answer, just look back at it.
I edited to add the "Or you explained yourself poorly, which is also a possibility" to my previous post, if that's what you mean.

You stated that "He didn't just sense the object, he sensed someone's presence too", and I'm asking you to explicitly tell me whose presence he sensed when he described that he wasn't even sensing a presence but the "breath" of lots of inanimate things in the area —even the ground itself.

Your "exhaustive answer" is useless as you didn't give any proper explanation to anything of what you defended but vague exposition, so instead of saying I'm typing stupid things (because you obviously are the brightest fellow here, as we can all see), give me a clear answer on how the power to sense the breath (not presence) of inanimate objects equals the power to sense the presence of animate beings.

Again, my questions: whose presence was Zoro sensing; why sensing a presence is even relevant here considering he explicitly distinguished breath from presence, so he told us he was sensing no presence to begin with; and what "someone's presence" allowed him to hear the breath of the ground, or a tree, or any other thing unrelated to both his and Bonez's intent. It's not hard to address each of these questions with specific answers.
 
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